So, UFC 3 had simple subs and let me tell you why I liked them so much and how we could have them as an option for 4 and in my opinion improve the sub system.
So, in 3 I would use simple subs for several reasons....
1-Less about the mini game and more about the stats and going for subs at the RIGHT time.....If you were a horrible grappler and tried to sub Demian good luck....which is the way it is suppose to be
2-No stupid game covering up the ENTIRE screen.....They have all these amazing subs and as a Brown belt myself I like to watch the animations play out....with the minigame you can not do this as you have to fixate on the meter and literally miss the entire sequence.
3-The speed of the sub-With simple subs on I crank the sub speed all the way up.....With no game to play this does not affect the outcome but what it does is allow the sub to play out at a much more realistic speed and look.....Right now it takes over a minute or longer to finish out a sub and this not only looks janky but most of the time is unrealistic
How to implement them better in 4
1-Now with added strikes during subs and with sub switching still there just have a button prompt come up during the simple sub when those are available....adds another dimension of skill as well
2-Like in the original EA MMA game instead of just mashing the button do TIMING or RHYTHM BASED button presses that also factors in proper stamina management.......This will save peoples fingers and still have an element of skill and timing involved.....Tap too fast and burn stamina and lose the sub and tap to slow and gain stamina but get further away from completion....have the rhythm get changed up throughout the sub
3-The skill is more based off if you are the defender PREVENTING the sub attempt and if you are the attacker based off more when you go for the sub....is your opponents stamina low, is your stamina high ect. and what are your fighters sub skills
Now I know the competive crowd is going to say this requires no skill but that is completely untrue as explained above.....also have this as an OPTION.....Some of us....actually I would say most of us do not want to play a silly campy minigame that takes up the entire screen....you can not even enjoy the sub playing out......It is too late in development to ask these devs (who in my opinion are wonderful both through their communication and their unparreled support through FREE updates no matter what all the complainers say) to try and rewrite the whole system....The animations and sub options in this game are impressive, we just all agree these minigames are terrible ....let's make it more based off when to properly go for a sub and being able to deny subs and then add some skill to the actual button tapping during but also let the meta of the fighters stats play as big of a factor as they should
What do you guys thinks.....I also think if you enjoy watching cpu vs cpu matches not having that giant game on screen would make it so much better....Chime in my friends!
So, in 3 I would use simple subs for several reasons....
1-Less about the mini game and more about the stats and going for subs at the RIGHT time.....If you were a horrible grappler and tried to sub Demian good luck....which is the way it is suppose to be
2-No stupid game covering up the ENTIRE screen.....They have all these amazing subs and as a Brown belt myself I like to watch the animations play out....with the minigame you can not do this as you have to fixate on the meter and literally miss the entire sequence.
3-The speed of the sub-With simple subs on I crank the sub speed all the way up.....With no game to play this does not affect the outcome but what it does is allow the sub to play out at a much more realistic speed and look.....Right now it takes over a minute or longer to finish out a sub and this not only looks janky but most of the time is unrealistic
How to implement them better in 4
1-Now with added strikes during subs and with sub switching still there just have a button prompt come up during the simple sub when those are available....adds another dimension of skill as well
2-Like in the original EA MMA game instead of just mashing the button do TIMING or RHYTHM BASED button presses that also factors in proper stamina management.......This will save peoples fingers and still have an element of skill and timing involved.....Tap too fast and burn stamina and lose the sub and tap to slow and gain stamina but get further away from completion....have the rhythm get changed up throughout the sub
3-The skill is more based off if you are the defender PREVENTING the sub attempt and if you are the attacker based off more when you go for the sub....is your opponents stamina low, is your stamina high ect. and what are your fighters sub skills
Now I know the competive crowd is going to say this requires no skill but that is completely untrue as explained above.....also have this as an OPTION.....Some of us....actually I would say most of us do not want to play a silly campy minigame that takes up the entire screen....you can not even enjoy the sub playing out......It is too late in development to ask these devs (who in my opinion are wonderful both through their communication and their unparreled support through FREE updates no matter what all the complainers say) to try and rewrite the whole system....The animations and sub options in this game are impressive, we just all agree these minigames are terrible ....let's make it more based off when to properly go for a sub and being able to deny subs and then add some skill to the actual button tapping during but also let the meta of the fighters stats play as big of a factor as they should
What do you guys thinks.....I also think if you enjoy watching cpu vs cpu matches not having that giant game on screen would make it so much better....Chime in my friends!
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