Where is Over/Under Clinch in EA UFC 4?

[iceberg3445]

Based on the early gameplay videos I’ve seen, there is a notable lack of the over/under clinch position. Instead, most clinch engagements seem to take place in the single collar, Thai clinch, or the new single underhook positions.

I understand that the over/under position is in the game (I think when standing up from sprawl), and I do think the overall clinch gameplay looks pretty slick. However, the rarity of over-under seems to be a pretty big departure from real life MMA.

Consequently, the new clinch system doesn’t really pass the eye test. While I’m pretty sure I’ve seen the single underhook position in real-life UFC, it’s definitely not as common as over/under (whereas the clinch gameplay indicates the opposite). In fact, the rarity of over/under was one of the first things I noticed (which is unfortunate bc the new over/under animations look awesome).

What’s the deal? Any reasoning for over/under not being a primary clinch position (gameplay, balancing, etc.)? Did I miss something?

[tissues250]

Re: Where is Over/Under Clinch in EA UFC 4?

Based on the early gameplay videos I’ve seen, there is a notable lack of the over/under clinch position. Instead, most clinch engagements seem to take place in the single collar, Thai clinch, or the new single underhook positions.

I understand that the over/under position is in the game (I think when standing up from sprawl), and I do think the overall clinch gameplay looks pretty slick. However, the rarity of over-under seems to be a pretty big departure from real life MMA.

Consequently, the new clinch system doesn’t really pass the eye test. While I’m pretty sure I’ve seen the single underhook position in real-life UFC, it’s definitely not as common as over/under (whereas the clinch gameplay indicates the opposite). In fact, the rarity of over/under was one of the first things I noticed (which is unfortunate bc the new over/under animations look awesome).

What’s the deal? Any reasoning for over/under not being a primary clinch position (gameplay, balancing, etc.)? Did I miss something?

As far as I know, overunder is still there. You can get overunder via clinch transition but I don't know how to do it yet.

and Throwing high-knee is the only way to get into the thai clinch from the sinlg-collar.

The last one, There is the only way to get into double under is if you guys fail a takedown.

That's all. Locomotion is good, transition is bad. 1 step forward, 2 steps backward.

[Clinch Control]

Re: Where is Over/Under Clinch in EA UFC 4?

You can get overunder via clinch transition but I don't know how to do it yet.

No, you can't. All I did was lab the clinch with 2 controllers during the beta. Over-under is only entered into via takedown denial. No actual transition input.

The single under position is only entered into against the cage.

and Throwing high-knee is the only way to get into the thai clinch from the sinlg-collar.

Yes, or body knees.

The last one, There is the only way to get into double under is if you guys fail a takedown.

This is wrong. Double underhooks are not in the game at all. This is how over under is entered into, via takedown denial.

That's all. Locomotion is good, transition is bad. 1 step forward, 2 steps backward.

Yup. Right you are sir.

[NEWSS]

Re: Where is Over/Under Clinch in EA UFC 4?

No, you can't. All I did was lab the clinch with 2 controllers during the beta. Over-under is only entered into via takedown denial. No actual transition input.

The single under position is only entered into against the cage.



Yes, or body knees.



This is wrong. Double underhooks are not in the game at all. This is how over under is entered into, via takedown denial.



Yup. Right you are sir.

You also end up in over-under when getting up from SUB sprawl position

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[Blackman316]

Re: Where is Over/Under Clinch in EA UFC 4?

The clinch game overhaul is probably the most unsure aspect of the game. I'd be unhappy if it was just the one position I've seen in online videos so far. Why remove all this work they did before? Senseless.

[Tyeanisbae]

Re: Where is Over/Under Clinch in EA UFC 4?

No, you can't. All I did was lab the clinch with 2 controllers during the beta. Over-under is only entered into via takedown denial. No actual transition input.



The single under position is only entered into against the cage.







Yes, or body knees.







This is wrong. Double underhooks are not in the game at all. This is how over under is entered into, via takedown denial.







Yup. Right you are sir.

Double underhooks are in the game if you go four a double leg takedown and cancel it as your fighter grabs the opponent he will mover up to double under


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[Clinch Control]

Re: Where is Over/Under Clinch in EA UFC 4?

Double underhooks are in the game if you go four a double leg takedown and cancel it as your fighter grabs the opponent he will mover up to double under


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You move into over under after canceling a takedown. Skynet said this himself in the Beta Impressions thread on page 67 if you want to go check it out.

[iceberg3445]

Re: Where is Over/Under Clinch in EA UFC 4?

You move into over under after canceling a takedown. Skynet said this himself in the Beta Impressions thread on page 67 if you want to go check it out.

Well, at least there’s more than one way to get into over/under.

Would like to see it more in the meta though, maybe through new entries, etc. Would make the clinch look and play more realistic



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[xtremeba1000]

Re: Where is Over/Under Clinch in EA UFC 4?

How they could have improved from ufc 3:
Remove delay from ground and pound strikes
Improve striking in the clinch
Add back in ragdoll and improve TKO scenarios
New and updated fighters

What they did:
Posture Duration
Ground Sway copied from undisputed 3
Completely change the clinch removing a lot of foundational postions
Random clothes for Create a fighter
Remove game face from create a fighter
backyard/ kumite area
Remove even more KO animations from UFC 3 and have even worse TKOs