UFC EA 4 Fighter Stats Adjustment Thread

[Phillyboi207]

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Please make Machida legendary. If not then his head movement is way too low.

Machida is legendary

IRL he used primary footwork and parries for defense. Can you think of any fights that displayed great head movement?

If anything I remember that being one of his weaknesses that fighters took advantage of. They’d drawn him in with feints and counter over the top because he kept his head on the center line.

[mcm12345]

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Either Neil Magny needs a nerf to his takedowns or Johny Hendricks needs a buff to them because they shouldn't have the same stat of 93 for their takedowns. Hendricks' takedown average (which includes his Middleweight run which he landed no takedowns in but shouldn't have any bearing on his Welterweight Prime) is at 3.83 per fight. Magny's average is at 2.55. Already there's a difference of more than 1.0.

Also, when they fought Hendricks dominated the wrestling exchanges of the fight landing 5 more takedowns than Magny did. Hendricks is also one of 2 men to land more than 1 takedown on GSP in a single fight (the other being Matt Huges in their 1st fight) in GSP's entire UFC tenure.

My point being that they shouldn't be on the same level of takedown proficiency when it's clear one is superior to the other especially seeing as one dominated the other in the wrestling department when they fought.

[BigSmoke]

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Can someone give me a detailed breakdown of RDA''s stats? I haven't seen them yet so I don't want to make a judgement but him being one of the highest rated fighters in the division when he hasn't looked good in almost 3 years and his last win was unranked WW debutant Kevin Lee seems pretty off.

[rebel8pig]

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Machida is legendary

IRL he used primary footwork and parries for defense. Can you think of any fights that displayed great head movement?

If anything I remember that being one of his weaknesses that fighters took advantage of. They’d drawn him in with feints and counter over the top because he kept his head on the center line.

Didnt notice he was legendary. Guess your right on the headmovement.

[Find_the_Door]

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Big Nog 90 leg health is off - even in his last fight with Struve he was walking through leg kicks and the Rogan was even attesting to how he just walked through them no problem. I'd also argue his 91 cardio is underrated too - always had a great gas tank and never outright gassed - Bob Sapp fight is a testament to that among many others.

I'd suggest Work Horse and recharger instead of Weathering Storms and Predator

Big Nogs blocking was never his strong suit - his head movement and great heart were.

For his moveset

Add:
Haymaker (replace overhand)

Guillotines (3 star) finish Sylvia with a nice one at UFC 81

Not sure if Omoplata was removed but he should have it

Add D'arce Choke from bottom side control - did a D'arce on Randy Couture at UFC 102

Should have boxing combo, left hook, right hook, left hook, right hook again from the Couture knock down

Judo throw reversal Double Leg

Guillotine Reversal Single, Double (and off cage)

Side Control to Mount Reversal to Side Control (see second Frank Mir fight)

Pull Guard and Sweep - Over Under


Remove:

Wrestling Power Single Leg
Gogoplata
Roundhouse Headkicks


Werdum should have a 4 star Guillotine

[SMOKEZERO]

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@Phillyboi207, good to see you take stats like Strikes per minute into account moving forward. I tried to get Lineker a stamina and endurance buff higher than his 88/88 from UFC 3 to no avail. I’m glad he’s still in UFC 4 surprisingly, and doubt any changes will be made since he’s fighting for One Championship, but I’m sure there will be future cases to consider. I haven’t seen his perks, but he could use the output in later rounds perk if he doesn’t already. Impossible to fight like the IRL Lineker in UFC 3, hope we can eliminate more of these instances over the UFC 4 cycle, especially for the mid tier fighters. Thanks.


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[Player2793]

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It'd be nice if Machida got a buff, as he's legend it seems like it should be a prime version of him and currently he's worse than people like Rampage, Rashad, Sonnen and Wanderlei.

[Phillyboi207]

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It'd be nice if Machida got a buff, as he's legend it seems like it should be a prime version of him and currently he's worse than people like Rampage, Rashad, Sonnen and Wanderlei.

Looks like his MW doesnt have the legend buff

His LHW version is pretty good

[Find_the_Door]

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Kimbo has the same exact stats as Mark Coleman - so he probably needs a complete rerate being that it's all copied

[mcm12345]

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I feel like Demian Maia shouldn't have the highest clinch control in the division at 98. Usman has a 97 for his Clinch control. When they fought, Usman was able to shuck Maia off of his back which shows that Maia's Backpack from back clinch (a position in this game) wasn't good enough to get Usman down or control him for a submission. Kamaru has been able to dominate all the opponents he wanted to wrestle in the clinch for all of his fights. Maia has been shut down by Colby,Usman and Woodley when he attempted any grappling exchanges. Usman was able to control Woodley (who shut down Maia's clinch and takedown attempts) against the cage for most of their fight and even slam him from the clinch.

I feel like Kamaru not Maia should have the best clinch in the division seeing how he's more consistent against top level opponents in completely controlling guys in the clinch. Whether that means nerfing Maia's clinch control or buffing Kamaru is something to consider.

[Phillyboi207]

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I feel like Demian Maia shouldn't have the highest clinch control in the division at 98. Usman has a 97 for his Clinch control. When they fought, Usman was able to shuck Maia off of his back which shows that Maia's Backpack from back clinch (a position in this game) wasn't good enough to get Usman down or control him for a submission. Kamaru has been able to dominate all the opponents he wanted to wrestle in the clinch for all of his fights. Maia has been shut down by Colby,Usman and Woodley when he attempted any grappling exchanges. Usman was able to control Woodley (who shut down Maia's clinch and takedown attempts) against the cage for most of their fight and even slam him from the clinch.

I feel like Kamaru not Maia should have the best clinch in the division seeing how he's more consistent against top level opponents in completely controlling guys in the clinch. Whether that means nerfing Maia's clinch control or buffing Kamaru is something to consider.

Rewatched Maia vs Usman just to be sure. Usman did not shrug off Maia's backpack. The ref had to separate them after a few minutes. Maia had him totally controlled (although it was an awkward position).

The fact none of those 3 (Woodley,Usman,Covington) wanted to even engage with Maia in clinch grappling is also a testament to his ability there.

[mcm12345]

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Rewatched Maia vs Usman just to be sure. Usman did not shrug off Maia's backpack. The ref had to separate them after a few minutes. Maia had him totally controlled (although it was an awkward position).

The fact none of those 3 (Woodley,Usman,Covington) wanted to even engage with Maia in clinch grappling is also a testament to his ability there.

Fair enough. And one last one for today.

Should Alexander Gustafsson have a 90 for his takedowns (at least his Light Heavyweight version) as opposed to an 89? I understand he's more of a striker and he hasn't been as dominant in recent times. At the same time, he's the only man to land takedowns on both Cormier and Jones who are the 2 guys with the highest takedown defence in the division. Additionally, he landed 4 takedowns in one fight against Jan B (number 3 ranked guy today) and he landed a takedown in his last fight at LHW against Anthony Smith.

A 90 would still put him behind more active wrestlers in the division such as Jones, Corey Anderson, Prime Rashad, Glover (who he matched 1 for 1 in the takedown department when they fought),Cormier (who he matched in the takedown department when they fought). I feel like an 89 in takedowns isn't representative of his ability to takedown 2 of the best wrestlers in the division's history. In his last 5 fights, Gus landed a takedown in all but 1 (against Jones who has the best takedown defence in LHW history) of them. I feel like a 90 is sensible enough to show that he's not a grappler oriented fighter as opposed to the 90+ guys while still showing that he has shown a proficiency to land takedowns against top notch wrestlers.


Thank you for putting a lot of effort as always.

[Phillyboi207]

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Big Nog 90 leg health is off - even in his last fight with Struve he was walking through leg kicks and the Rogan was even attesting to how he just walked through them no problem. I'd also argue his 91 cardio is underrated too - always had a great gas tank and never outright gassed - Bob Sapp fight is a testament to that among many others.

I'd suggest Work Horse and recharger instead of Weathering Storms and Predator

Big Nogs blocking was never his strong suit - his head movement and great heart were.

For his moveset

Add:
Haymaker (replace overhand)

Guillotines (3 star) finish Sylvia with a nice one at UFC 81

Not sure if Omoplata was removed but he should have it

Add D'arce Choke from bottom side control - did a D'arce on Randy Couture at UFC 102

Should have boxing combo, left hook, right hook, left hook, right hook again from the Couture knock down




Remove:

Wrestling Power Single Leg
Gogoplata
Roundhouse Headkicks


Werdum should have a 4 star Guillotine

Unfortunately I'm not the one that handles movesets/perks but I can pass this along in hopes of it being changed.

[Phillyboi207]

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Fair enough. And one last one for today.

Should Alexander Gustafsson have a 90 for his takedowns (at least his Light Heavyweight version) as opposed to an 89? I understand he's more of a striker and he hasn't been as dominant in recent times. At the same time, he's the only man to land takedowns on both Cormier and Jones who are the 2 guys with the highest takedown defence in the division. Additionally, he landed 4 takedowns in one fight against Jan B (number 3 ranked guy today) and he landed a takedown in his last fight at LHW against Anthony Smith.

A 90 would still put him behind more active wrestlers in the division such as Jones, Corey Anderson, Prime Rashad, Glover (who he matched 1 for 1 in the takedown department when they fought),Cormier (who he matched in the takedown department when they fought). I feel like an 89 in takedowns isn't representative of his ability to takedown 2 of the best wrestlers in the division's history. In his last 5 fights, Gus landed a takedown in all but 1 (against Jones who has the best takedown defence in LHW history) of them. I feel like a 90 is sensible enough to show that he's not a grappler oriented fighter as opposed to the 90+ guys while still showing that he has shown a proficiency to land takedowns against top notch wrestlers.


Thank you for putting a lot of effort as always.

Yeah no problem

He has landed some surprise TDs but he still lands them at low %s at a low volume. Honestly he has an 89 precisely because of the ones he landed on those top guys.

I’d suggest trying to stay away from the aesthetic of certain increases/decreases. Will an 89 vs a 90 really change anything?

I say this because small increases like that for the sake of aesthetic creates more work for the Devs.

[Phillyboi207]

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Tomitomitomi I didnt forget about you.

Flyweight

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Cejudo chin 95
- I don't recall Cejudo ever displaying THIS amazing of a chin.
Has Cejudo ever had his chin rocked? Even went into the pocket about Moraes to secure that win
Flyweight Dillashaw chin 92
- He got TKO'd quickly in his only Flyweight fight so his chin is relatively suspect at flyweight (Weight cut?)
I’m iffy about this because it was one 30 second fight. Joanna also got knocked out quickly from a bad weight cut, it happens. TJ’s chin isnt super high as is plus I think Cejudo has power
Mighty mouse Body 90
- The game has a general trend to give fighters who haven't been hurt a really high rating (e.g. Cejudo 95 chin) so by that logic MM could have a tad higher body rating. I don't recall him getting hurt from body shots but I could be wrong.
Pretty fair, I don’t know if I’ve seen him really hit to the body either since he’s so elusive.

Mighty Mouse Punch P 87 vs Kick P 90
- I'd say he's been more damaging with his punches (e.g. Benavidez 2) so I feel that his punch and kick power could be a bit more balanced.
Imo his kicks are definitely the most dangerous thing in his standup. Hisasy fight vs Cejudo showed that imo. Cejudo walked through his punches but struggled with the kicks

Figueiredo Fotowork 86 and Top Control 86
- I admittedly haven't watched a lot of his fights but he has some of the lowest footwork and top control in the division which seems off. His manhandling of Benavidez warrants higher than 86 and it's a bit odd that his top control is so low when he has such high bottom and sub game.

Will be adjusted
BW

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Aldo Cardio 90
- Aldo has historically had cardio issues including his last fight.
He’s also gone 5 rounds numerous times. That last fight was fought at a historic pace
Cejudo Chin 95
- Same as BW but even smaller sample size.

Cejudo Punch Power 95 Kick Power 93
- More Triple C hate but I'm not sure his power should be this high at BW.
He still showed great power vs Moraes
Moraes Cardio 90
- Moraes has also slowed down in his fights.
90 isn’t high. He should still slow down with this rating
Lineker Kick Power 96
- Isn't Lineker mostly about winging hooks rather than kicks?
His stats are in error. He’ll be adjusted
Yan GNP 90
- His GNP vs Aldo was pretty nasty so it could be a bit higher I think?

Eh, 50/50 on this. I’d rather wait and see after his next fight.
FW

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Aldo Cardio 91
- Similar to BW. I think a slightly lower cardio would fit him better.

Volkanovski 95 Punch Power
- This gives him same punch power as Jeremy Stephens and I believe one less than Conor. I wouldn't put him in the same conversation as two when it comes to KO power.
He has 11 KO/TKO in 23 fights. Stephens has 18 in 46 fights. Conor’s level 5 straight should separate him from everyone else
Volkanovski Chin/Body/Legs (96, 96, 95)
- Volkanovski also has the champ treatment where he has extremely high health stats. While he banged with Mendez, Volkanovski doesn't absorb that much damage in his fights.

Well he’s gonna see a chin drop after getting rocked by Max. He was never hurt before.
LW

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- Masvidal Subs 87 (Chiesa Sub Def 90)
- Masvidal is weird because he has only one submission victory in UFC but it was against Chiesa who is a primarily grappler with 90 Sub Def. I think Masvidal has better subs than his stats imply.
Like you said he’s weird. One of the tougher guys to gauge since he’s good at everything. The fact that he hasnt subbed (or really threatened )anyone else leads me to think he may not be that dangerous with subs
Khabib Chin 93
- Khabib hasn't really been in danger in any of his fights so I think his chin could be slightly lower to reflect that his chin isn't proven to be elite while stil being good.
Stood an entire round with Conor, stood with Iaquinta, ate shots from Dustin and Michael Johnson. Khabin has shown a pretty good chin imo
Penn Kick Power 86
- I forgot to list characters with similar or higher ratings but 86 seems really bad considering he has won by a flying knee and a head kick (admittedly a cut). I think his kick power could be a tiny bit higher to reflect that he can do some damage in specific scenarios.
Sounds like his move levels could be higher for those strikes. In general he wasnt much of a kicker

Volkanovski Punching Power and Health Stats
- I forgot to add these but they're probably the same as FW. I think these stats in particular are way too high in LW where he's completely unproven in UFC.

Just the same as FW. I mentioned it before but hard to gauge how someone is gonna look at a weightclass when they havent fought their recently. Just giving him the benefit of the doubt

WW
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Colby Chin 95
- I don't recall him eating too many big shots to warrant this chin.
Usman fight was a war
RDA Chin 93

- I found this stat particularly funny as his chin was his weakness in UFC 3. With his UFC 3 stat in mind I think his chin could be a few points lower since he hasn't fought any particularly big hitters lately to warrant this big of an increase (though I do think his chin in 3 was underrated).
No need to compare to UFC 3 stats. Almost everyone was overhauled

Ferguson Punching Power 90
- Ferguson hasn't had WW fights but I'd imagine his punches would be relatively weaker than they would be in LW.
No way to know for certain. Conor, Santos, DC, Smith all had their power translate if not even more at higher weightclasses

Ferguson Chin 95
- Similar to his power I'd imagine the size discrepancy would make his chin relatively weaker. Funnily enough RDA went from 89 chin at lightweight to 93 chin at WW. Actually, I think RDA's LW chin should probably be same as his WW.
Yeah there’s no way to predict that. RDA’s chin should be the same in both weightclasses

Hendricks 89 Cardio
- He had a hard-fought 3 and 5 rounders where he had a surprisingly high output (whole 70% power meme) so I think his cardio should be way higher than Woodley who I believe was 88.
Fair
Penn Clinch Control 88
- Penn did well in clinch vs Fitch who isn't in the game but in general i think his cage clinch work should be higher. He was also one of the first guys to do the whole hop-on-one-leg to get to cage.
That’s more TDD.

Wonderboy 93 Sub D
- Wonderboy silently has one of the highest submission defenses in the division, surpassing for example Usman who only has 89 sub def.
I believe he showed amazing sub D by not dying vs Woodley’s choke

Felder GNP 93
- This may belong to LW Felder more but he's had some nasty ground and pound finishes. Colby and Usman have 94 and 95 GNP respectively but Felder has displayed way more damaging ground strikes than those two, who I think are too high anyway.
I’m torn on this one. They both clearly utilize GnP way more and tend to overwhelm opponents with it
Woodley Footwork 89, Punch Speed 92
- Yes I'm inconsistent with how I address a fighter's numerous stats. My issue here is that Woodley is really good at exploding forward with a big overhand but his current stats, perks and moves (Overhand instead of Haymaker) make his forward momentum really sluggish so I feel it should be addressed somehow.
It would be nice if they tied an overhand to the blitz. You can do it with the straight or right hook instead. I dont believe in adjusting ratings to fit mechanics because the game gets updated so much

MW
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Israel Chin/Body/Legs 94, 94, 96
- He had his war with Kelvin but besides that I feel he has similar treatment to Volkanovski where he has extremely high health stats even though he mostly avoids damage by fighting intelligently. I'm okay with his chin being high since he ate a few Romero bombs etc.

Took some shots from Rob as well. It’s more of a reward for not being hurt despite facing many high caliber fighters

Bisping 89 TDD, 88 Sub D, 87 Clinch, 85 clinch striking, 86 bottom
- I think Bisping deserves the most buffs as of now. Historically he's fared well against grapplers. Chael for example really struggled against him when clinching and his bottom game vs GSP also warrants higher than 86 sub striking I think.

Bisping has been subbed twice (GSP, Rockhold) but those were after he was rocked which is something I think should be replicated in the game some way, but as of now I think his defensively grappling should be higher.

I also think his clinch striking should be higher as a lot of his finishes have come with him essentially clinch striking guys against the fence.
Most of this is fair. Not sure about the clinch strikes since he doesnt utilize them a lot in generaL

Hermansson 90 Sub
- He's racked up a lot of sub wins lately vs good competition.
Already adjusted

Gastelum 92 sub
- Gastelum should definitely not be higher than Hermansson. In general I think his sub offense should be lower because he mostly chokes people out after rocking them and that can be replicated with giving him a high RNC level.
Hermansson is being adjusted
Fair

Lyoto 84 block, 83 Head Movement, 85 Takedown Defense, 86 Bottom, 86 Sub D, 87 Cardio, 85 Chin, 85 Body, 84 Recovery
- Poor Lyoto. I get that Lyoto is meant to stay outside and not get hit but he's not actually made of class, especially when talking about the prime version that arguably beat Weidman (I had to argue in favor of Weidman back in the day).
- I can understand him having mediocre or average block and head movement ratings as he's mostly known for his footwork but why are they among the worst in the division? It seems really unwarranted IMO.
- Prime Lyoto was pretty famous for his takedown defense. I can buy the argument that people were worse at setting up takedowns back then but 85 puts him up there with likes of Werdum, Ferguson and Diaz Bros who don't even try to block takedowns. Statistically Lyoto had good takedown defense.
- His two sub losses were to Jones and Rockhold after he was brutally rocked. Lyoto hasn't been amazing off his back but I don't think getting smashed by Romero and (especially Rockhold) should hurt his rating this much.

- The health is another one where I think he's being punished for his fighting style. I think his cardio should actually be above average because I think his slow pace has more to do with his style than pure cardio as he looked good in 5 rounds vs Shogun and Mousasi. He hasn't also been finished by anyone who isn't really good (Brunson is the worst but he has notorious KO power) so it feels off that he's made of paper. I think giving him 89-90ish health stats is good.

Non legend stats, ignore

Thiago Santos and Robbie Lawler are generally too good
- Not much to add but that they reached their pinnacles in other divisions so the MW variants should probably be at least slightly weaker tho I'd like to see them remain viable.
This is based on current selves. Honestly hard to say how they’d look there now. Although I do believe Santos is better at LHW

GSP Footwork 94
- This probably applies to WW GSP too but I'm slipping here. GSP is from an era when fighters were relatively stationary and I don't really associate GSP with incredible footwork.
That’s part of what made him good. He could beat grappling on the feet while staying on the outside and could out grapple strikers

Till TDD 88
- I don't like using fight stats are a frame of reference because for example Woodley's TDD% is inflated by Maia and Shields shooting 20 times each but Till has an 82% TDD so I think it could be a few points higher.
Fair

Chael Clinch Control 94 and 91 Cardio
- I don't recall Chael ever being a dominant clinch fighter especially considering how low Bisping's clinch rating was. I think his cardio could be higher even with the perk levels because even on feet he comes forward a lot.
Cardio is fair. Clinch was based on wrestling against the fence


LHW

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Rashad Recovery 88
- Quickly reminiscing he's shown better than 88 recovery back when he fought Thiago Silva, Rampage and Machida (even tho Machida wrecked him he still recovered from rocks well).
Fair

DC accuracy 96
- Is DC one of the most accurate strikers ever comparable to Anderson/Jones/Lyoto etc?
You made the case for Machida being higher. DC is actually very accurate at 52%
Gus 91 Sub O
- He had a few RNCs 10 years ago against non-grapplers.
Fair

Rumble 96 Chin
- I get that Rumble is meant to be a tank but I don't recall him having this godlike of a chin.
He would routinely bang in the pocket and the only time I remember seeing him hurt was the overhand from DC

Cannonier 93 chin 93 body 94 legs, 91 cardio
- Surprisingly high health stats at LHW.
Same as MW, just benefit of the doubt

LHW Lyoto 91 cardio, 89 chin, 90 body, 88 legs, 86 recovery
- LHW Lyoto received more health love than MW but his recovery is still low. I think MW Lyoto could easily adapt these stats with the other suggestions.
You didnt really say why it’s too low. He was great at not getting hurt but when he was he didnt seem to recover well

HW

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Blaydes Chin 93
- Blaydes has an incredible chin. I'd say it's 96 worthy. While we're at it, Prime Nog could have similar chin as well.
You’re not gonna see many HWs with that high of a chin

Coleman 92 Cardio
- Coleman didn't have the best cardio tank. I think his grappling can be supported via perks and move levels while leaving his striking vulnerable.
That’s fair but 92 at HW isnt gonna make him able to go crazy

JDS 89 GNP and Kick power 92
- A lot of damaging GNP finishes. However, I think his Kick Power could be lower as it's mostly his spin kick which can have a higher level. His high kick power really stands out compared to other fighters.
Compared to HWs he does stand out in kicking power imo.

DC 95 Cardio, 96 ground striking
- DC gassed vs Stipe's body shots so that alone puts his 95 stamina to question. I guess same applies to Cain vs Werdum but that's arguably post-prime Cain. DC has looked great in his other HW fights but 95 seemed a tad high. He also hasn't displayed devastating GNP power at HW.
Damaging body shots do that. I wouldnt question someone’s cardio because they got hurt to the body. DC gets the benefit of the doubt

Ngannou 91 Sub D, 89 Cardio
- Some Ngannou stats were mentioned before but I don't recall him showing any real Sub D and I think his stamina should be even lower.
He would’ve been subbed by Stipe/ Blaydes if it was terrible. 89 isnt gonna get you far at HW.
Stipe 94 Chin, 95 Body, 95 Legs, 94 Recovery
Stipe TD and Top 90, 90 kick power
- Yay inconsistency with my formatting. I don't recall Stipe throwing many if any kicks but his grappling could be higher. It's probably easy to lull into giving him 90 because he's generally well-rounded but I think these two could be a tad higher so he can grapple someone like Ngannou more reliably.
Fair

Overeem 90 GNP, 90 Top
- Reem has nasty top game and GNP IMO.
Fair



Cain 97 GNP, 93 clinch strike
- I know his Cardio won't be touched because it's what he was known for but he also had a reputation for pillow fists so these could be lower.
He also finished everyone lol

Werdum 86 Kick power
- Werdum has used a lot of kicks and even got the flying knee win over Hunt. For contrast, before-mentioned JDS has 92 Kick power while Rothwell, Stipe and DC have 89, 90 and 89 respectively. Thus, I think his kick power could be upped a bit to encourage using them.
Outside of the knee I dont recall his kicks actually being damaging. He threw them because he didnt care about bein taken down

Phew...

Also so y’all know once I make the official topic we’re gonna have to shift focus only to fighters about to fight or who just fought.