Re: Buff Vulnerability When Constantly Pressing Forward

[Counter Punch]

Re: Buff Vulnerability When Constantly Pressing Forward

It feels like when you’re backing up, if they are hitting your block it slows down your retreat. Having a really hard time with maintaining any sort of distance and I see to lose a lot of exchanges where they throw a combo Thats one punch longer than mine. Any tips for dealing with pressure? I’m trying to throw with my feet planted but if they beat me to the punch they are just winging combos at my block not losing stamina and I can’t get away. Do I just need to commit to staying in the pocket and beating them with combos? If I try to use headmovement I feel like their punches still track my head about 85% of the time.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

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I don't think that moving into the pocket should increase vulnerability . That is not a one stop solution to pressure fighting. However I would suggest the following.

1. Buff foot work : make circling out a feature . However we won't see this until UFC 5 because the camera would have to be reworked to fit this feature .

2. Buff the slip straight to cause damage / make the slip over hand beat the jab .

3. Hand fighting / parrying has to be introduced to trap the jab .

4. Stamina has to be balanced where if you go HAM with strikes , your long term stamina should reflect this drastically.

5. A perfect shot mechanism has to be developed sort of like what FIFA has with well timed shot. If you successfully land a strike at the right time it you should cause more damage . This way we give single shots precedence over combos and an incentive to fight at range.


Pressure fighting is the direct result of us having RPM in movement.




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[Counter Punch]

Re: Buff Vulnerability When Constantly Pressing Forward

I don't think that moving into the pocket should increase vulnerability . That is not a one stop solution to pressure fighting. However I would suggest the following.

1. Buff foot work : make circling out a feature . However we won't see this until UFC 5 because the camera would have to be reworked to fit this feature .

2. Buff the slip straight to cause damage / make the slip over hand beat the jab .

3. Hand fighting / parrying has to be introduced to trap the jab .

4. Stamina has to be balanced where if you go HAM with strikes , your long term stamina should reflect this drastically.

5. A perfect shot mechanism has to be developed sort of like what FIFA has with well timed shot. If you successfully land a strike at the right time it you should cause more damage . This way we give single shots precedence over combos and an incentive to fight at range.


Pressure fighting is the direct result of us having RPM in movement.




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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the jab being so safe is a problem. Particularly when it can stun you, interrupt almost any strike (if timed properly) and destroy your block when moving forward. A jab should be thrown to catch your opponent off guard. A telegraphed jab should be dangerous so I think the vulnerability should be higher than it is for throwing a jab. I get that they are making in like a poke in a TFG, but it just seems unbalanced for the jab to have so much to offer offensively for almost no risk defensively.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Buff Vulnerability When Constantly Pressing Forward

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the jab being so safe is a problem. Particularly when it can stun you, interrupt almost any strike (if timed properly) and destroy your block when moving forward. A jab should be thrown to catch your opponent off guard. A telegraphed jab should be dangerous so I think the vulnerability should be higher than it is for throwing a jab. I get that they are making in like a poke in a TFG, but it just seems unbalanced for the jab to have so much to offer offensively for almost no risk defensively.

I don't know much about technical boxing bro.

But in this game the jab is actually the most dangerous punch because it is actually the safest.

I've seen some jab stacks that give me problems . Not so much for others.

I wish the push could be also used for a hand trap for the Opponent's lead hand.

But if we have the option to back out of the pocket in a circle out path or lunge to the side and not have an opponent track you automatically I would be happy.

If I exit by lunging to either side you should have to reset to engage me . Not so in this game. Not is at all.

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[rabbitfistssaipailo]

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If you really look at it. A lot of fundamentals about boxing have to be ignored either for balance , implementation or just not feasible reasons.

I enjoy the game a lot tho.

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[Counter Punch]

Re: Buff Vulnerability When Constantly Pressing Forward

If you really look at it. A lot of fundamentals about boxing have to be ignored either for balance , implementation or just not feasible reasons.

I enjoy the game a lot tho.

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Yeah I’m not talking about realism anymore. I’ve given up on that goal, plus I’m having a lot of fun with the game. I’m just saying the jab being the way it is in the game is unbalanced. It’s a quick strike and it offers a lot offensively. I think there should be some risk involved with throwing it recklessly because right now there isn’t any and that’s not balanced.

Would be interested in hearing from someone who disagrees maybe I’m just looking at it the wrong way.

Edit: how much does the jab curb your damage if you throw a hook that gets through but get hit with the jab first? Maybe that could be reduced? Thoughts?

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

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I'm not sure I understand you but if I'm getting you right. If you throw a jab and I throw a Hook , who's going to take more damage ?

Is this what you are asking ?

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[rabbitfistssaipailo]

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Yeah I’m not talking about realism anymore. I’ve given up on that goal, plus I’m having a lot of fun with the game. I’m just saying the jab being the way it is in the game is unbalanced. It’s a quick strike and it offers a lot offensively. I think there should be some risk involved with throwing it recklessly because right now there isn’t any and that’s not balanced.

Would be interested in hearing from someone who disagrees maybe I’m just looking at it the wrong way.

Edit: how much does the jab curb your damage if you throw a hook that gets through but get hit with the jab first? Maybe that could be reduced? Thoughts?

About the jab leaving you vulnerable . I think if both of us are standing at a reasonable range and i anticipate you will throw a jab feet planted stationary , the overhand will and should beat it. The problem is the animation of the overhand . It should go on top over the jab , not like a wild haymaker . Still works in the game sometimes.


I have a pal who's attack is heavily based around the jab hopefully he comes over today so I can see if the jab is still hard to deal with.

You know these guys throw jabs to get you to act defensively. Jab - jab -jab to see what you do. If you back out you will eat a leg kick which will come out so fast after the jab.

If you slip the jab and intercept with a straight , after a couple of times , they change to jab ,hook which is another deadly combo if applied properly. So you see the jab can be problematic to deal with.

I know another guy who does double jab and runs away. Double jab rinse and repeat . Very tricky to deal with online as the straight might not land because of lag .

So for me it's the best thing is to buff footwork.

Lunges seem to be a whole lot more responsive in the beta but after lunch not so much.

So I don't know.

Everything fired off the jab in UFC 3 came out so fast .

I have only had a few offline fights so I'm still not sure about how I will deal with pressure in UFC 4.

But I'm optimistic.

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[EarvGotti]

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Yeah I’m not talking about realism anymore. I’ve given up on that goal, plus I’m having a lot of fun with the game. I’m just saying the jab being the way it is in the game is unbalanced. It’s a quick strike and it offers a lot offensively. I think there should be some risk involved with throwing it recklessly because right now there isn’t any and that’s not balanced.

Would be interested in hearing from someone who disagrees maybe I’m just looking at it the wrong way.

Edit: how much does the jab curb your damage if you throw a hook that gets through but get hit with the jab first? Maybe that could be reduced? Thoughts?

Ehh I don't know man. This is one of the areas where i feel the devs got it right in UFC 4 when it comes to the Jab. The jab is supposed to be the safest strike and it is. It's great to use as a range finder and to set up combos. In reality, someone that knows what they're doing can really control a fight with the jab. Check out GSP vs Koscheck 2.

When you slip the jab and counter, it dishes out a little bit of extra damage but nothing too crazy. I agree the overhand should come over the top of it and do damage but only if the jab is thrown late in the overhand animation.

[1212headkick]

Re: Buff Vulnerability When Constantly Pressing Forward

What we need is a multilateral speed modifer. Similar to the stiff arm retreat but all directions. A shuffle step. You wouldn't need new mocap just increase the speed of the shuffling of the feet when pressing r1 and r2 and any direction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8D3vf-VO3A.

This would look amazing with the new climch as well and if done with both the pressure fighter and technical fighter in mind it would making timinf when you cut your opponent off or circling when it's safe matter even more. Circle all you want or pressure all you want. Just know your a check hook(which also needs fixed) away from being koed.

[tunnelblick24]

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Should be very easy for the Devs to weaken the block of the fighter pressing forward throwing hundreds of strikes, his block ability should decrease short and long term. I don't mean slightly.

There is no possibilty at all EA will ever create a sim. At least make the game balanced.

[Trillz]

Re: Buff Vulnerability When Constantly Pressing Forward

seems like hook spamis still a problem, body shots feel weak thats leg body shots and body punches doesnt drain stamina

[tunnelblick24]

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If just the body shots drain more stamina it wouldn't change a thing. Pressure fighters would target the body more. The whole stamina and combo system is cancer. Major changes are needed.

[Trillz]

Re: Buff Vulnerability When Constantly Pressing Forward

If just the body shots drain more stamina it wouldn't change a thing. Pressure fighters would target the body more. The whole stamina and combo system is cancer. Major changes are needed.

needs more tax on thrown strikes in general, then tax on missed combos

[Counter Punch]

Re: Buff Vulnerability When Constantly Pressing Forward

I'm not sure I understand you but if I'm getting you right. If you throw a jab and I throw a Hook , who's going to take more damage ?

Is this what you are asking ?

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What I’m saying is that if you get hit while you are throwing a strike (and it doesn’t interrupt your strike) your strike will have reduced damage. I can’t remember the term for that, but it’s a mechanic in the game. I’m asking how much the jab reduces the power of a strike in that scenario, and that if it’s too much perhaps it could be adjusted.