UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

[MC Fatigue]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Machida is not Top 3. Settle down.

Honestly - how do you know?

That's what's kind of dumb about the whole pound for pound thing. How do you have any clue who would win if Machida fought any of those guys - thus, how can anyone say where he (or anyone) belongs on the list.

I kind of thing the whole pound for pound thing is just pointless and kind of stupid.

[Brian Gee]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Everybody I wanted to win won, so I'm happy.

Best thing I've ever seen was Rashad going to sleep in the 2nd...

[Wet Bandit]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Why isn't he?

Because this is his first fight that's made you go, "Wow". The wins against Tito and Silva were nice, but they weren't the sort of dominations of top competition that the top 3 has done. He needs a couple more wins like this one before he gets in the discussion. He's certainly on his way, but let's let him get there first. A clean number four is certainly good.

[DJ]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Wanted to give props to my boy, McFedries, for coming up with a big win.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Why isn't he?

Never lost a fight...never lost a round for that matter...completely dominated everyone he's fought and is now the best fighter in his division.

I think you could make a very compelling argument for him being in the Top 3.

I dont need to argue Fedor's credentials. GSP has wins over Penn, Hughes, Fitch, Koscheck, Serra, Sherk and Parisyan. Silva has wins over Franklin twice, Henderson and Marquardt.

Machida just notched his most impressive win. T. Silva was crazy overrated to begin with. Ortiz was past his prime when Lyoto fought him and he beat BJ Penn when he out weighed him by almost 30 pounds.

It was a great win tonight but lets not go crazy.

[allBthere]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

With all due respect, Evans on his best tonight wasn't going to beat Machida. He was outclassed completely tonight. It wasn't even close to being a fair fight.

just no. even won round 1. Only because of 2 or 3 body kicks...almost nothing happened.

Like I said earlier. in round 2 machida countered w/ a 3or4 punch combo off a rashad jab that really impressed me, but i was even more impressed that shad rolled them a bit and came back right away with his own 3 punch combo. shad also landed a 3 punch combo flush straight up in that round. If rashad didn't get punch drunk, the fight was still a close "who's going to land the big one" fight. To say Rashad was absolutely dominated every second is not true. he got caught, just like everyone does eventually. A good Ramp hook could put Machida's lights out. I'm not saying it will happen, but it's just ignorant to say it couldn't. Machida is a top fighter, but he's not some kind of superhuman, neither is silva and both of them don't deserve that status that they both now seem to be recieving.

Let's see what happens next ... machida's not done proving.

[BSanders]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Machida is not Top 3. Settle down.

Denial is a bad thing..... Rampage couldn't beat Forrest and Evans destroyed Forrest so let me hear your top 5.

[MC Fatigue]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Because this is his first fight that's made you go, "Wow".

No it wasn't. He's made me go wow since the first time I saw him fight. He's absolutely amazing.

[MizzouBravesFan]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

I dont need to argue Fedor's credentials. GSP has wins over Penn, Hughes, Fitch, Koscheck, Serra, Sherk and Parisyan. Silva has wins over Franklin twice, Henderson and Marquardt.

Machida just notched his most impressive win. T. Silva was crazy overrated to begin with. Ortiz was past his prime when Lyoto fought him and he beat BJ Penn when he out weighed him by almost 30 pounds.

It was a great win tonight but lets not go crazy.

I guess we'll just agree to disagree...I'd put him above Anderson Silva right now.

You could make the argument that Rich Franklin was crazy overrated when Anderson fought him and that Hendo was past his prime when Anderson fought him too.

He's just dominated like no other...I don't care who he's fighting, to not lose a single round in 7 fights is extremely impressive.

[Wet Bandit]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

I dont need to argue Fedor's credentials. GSP has wins over Penn, Hughes, Fitch, Koscheck, Serra, Sherk and Parisyan. Silva has wins over Franklin twice, Henderson and Marquardt.

More importantly, almost all those wins were dominating wins by GSP and Silva. If Machida can do what he did tonight, dominate an elite fighter, if he can do that again a couple more times, then the discussion is open. But not yet.

[Parasight]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Well I wouldn't enter him into the Top 3, but he's certainly in my Top 5 after tonight.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

I guess we'll just agree to disagree...I'd put him above Anderson Silva right now.

You could make the argument that Rich Franklin was crazy overrated when Anderson fought him and that Hendo was past his prime when Anderson fought him too.

He's just dominated like no other...I don't care who he's fighting, to not lose a single round in 7 fights is extremely impressive.

Franklin was the middleweight champ on an 8 fight winning streak when he lost while T Silva's most impressive win was over Houston Alexander. Ortiz hadnt won a fight in almost 2 yrs when he fought Machida.

I think its very impressive. Just not impressive enogh to get him in the top 3 yet.

[SHO]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Who would you move out of the Top 3 just to put in Machida?

Fedor? Forget about it.
GSP? Don't think so.
Silva? So one disappointing fight against Lieties - who did absolutely no-showed - no longer makes him Top 3?

[phillyfan23]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Because this is his first fight that's made you go, "Wow". The wins against Tito and Silva were nice, but they weren't the sort of dominations of top competition that the top 3 has done. He needs a couple more wins like this one before he gets in the discussion. He's certainly on his way, but let's let him get there first. A clean number four is certainly good.

how can you say his win against Silva and Tito weren't impressive.

Against Tito, he dominated the whole fight and showed his strategy and didn't let Tito get a sniff of a take down and offense until the last 30 seconds. People say Evans is underrated, well Tito Ortiz might now be considered that. It's sad he has a clash with Dana White, because the guy can stil bring it. His Kryptonite was a prime Liddell is all.

Against Silva, it was a beautiful match that ended in a dominating KO, pure octagon control, landed accurate strong strikes had a nice take down and a one shot KO. That wasn't a high paced fight, but it was exciting as hell.

Tonite, Machida took me by surprise, i knew he was good, but tonite just amazing performance. I was wrong in my prediction , way off haha, but man the dragon is just a great fighter.

Just so much calculation and technique before he pounces, it was a thing to watch tonight. Again, wasn't fast paced like other fights, but at every moment in that fight u had a feeling that one flurry could end it and that's from both fighters.

[SHO]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Denial is a bad thing..... Rampage couldn't beat Forrest and Evans destroyed Forrest so let me hear your top 5.

We are arguing Top 3, not Top 5. Silly goose. Machida's Top 5, but not Top 3.