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  • WarMMA
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 4612

    #3121
    Re: MMA Off-Topic

    Originally posted by Dave_S
    Also, even though I wanted Lee to win, I feel bad for Edson. It's a tough business.
    Yup. Also sux getting back to back wrestlers. Hope his next matchup is a better one.

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    • MacGowan
      Sassy
      • Jun 2017
      • 1681

      #3122
      Re: MMA Off-Topic

      Originally posted by WarMMA
      Yup. Also sux getting back to back wrestlers. Hope his next matchup is a better one.
      He did great against Dairush. But yeah, loong break. Come back in after the summer against a tune-up striker.

      Such a talented fighter too.

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      • p_rushing
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2004
        • 14514

        #3123
        Re: MMA Off-Topic

        Looking like Goddard may have interfered with the Simon decision. No where did the ref wave off the fight. Even after the doctors were in the cage, the ref still didn't wave it off. Goddard was cage side yelling that the fight was over.

        Sure Dvalishvili may have gone out a few times, but the ref in the cage didn't stop it. Then it was over, no reversing course afterwards. Commission needs to fix it and give Dvalishvili the win based on scorecards or NC for the terrible ref.

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        • MacGowan
          Sassy
          • Jun 2017
          • 1681

          #3124
          Re: MMA Off-Topic

          Originally posted by p_rushing
          Looking like Goddard may have interfered with the Simon decision. No where did the ref wave off the fight. Even after the doctors were in the cage, the ref still didn't wave it off. Goddard was cage side yelling that the fight was over.

          Sure Dvalishvili may have gone out a few times, but the ref in the cage didn't stop it. Then it was over, no reversing course afterwards. Commission needs to fix it and give Dvalishvili the win based on scorecards or NC for the terrible ref.

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          Very interesting! did not know Goddard was yelling. weird situation. I think the Mario/Chiesa scandal had something to do with it too.

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          • Dave_S
            Dave
            • Apr 2016
            • 7835

            #3125
            Re: MMA Off-Topic

            Fighter can't be saved by the bell.

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            • MacGowan
              Sassy
              • Jun 2017
              • 1681

              #3126
              Re: MMA Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Dave_S
              Fighter can't be saved by the bell.
              Sugar Sean was

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              • Dave_S
                Dave
                • Apr 2016
                • 7835

                #3127
                Re: MMA Off-Topic

                Originally posted by MacGowan
                Sugar Sean was
                I didn't say they were good at their jobs. . Just posting the justification I heard last night.

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                • MacGowan
                  Sassy
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 1681

                  #3128
                  Re: MMA Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by Dave_S
                  I didn't say they were good at their jobs. . Just posting the justification I heard last night.
                  Roger. Yeah I wouldn't be mad if Sugar Sean or the Dvalishvili decision went the other way, but some consistency would be nice.

                  Also a little bit concerned about refs being a little too lenient on the submission times after Mario Yamasaki messed up the Chiesa submission. The Condit finish comes to mind.

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                  • p_rushing
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 14514

                    #3129
                    Re: MMA Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by Dave_S
                    Fighter can't be saved by the bell.
                    Since when, it isn't boxing. The fight was over not the round. No where does the ref in the cage wave it off, he is the only ruling official and he doesn't call the fight, even after the round ending and checking on him after the doctors were there.

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                    • Dave_S
                      Dave
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 7835

                      #3130
                      Re: MMA Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by p_rushing
                      Since when, it isn't boxing. The fight was over not the round. No where does the ref in the cage wave it off, he is the only ruling official and he doesn't call the fight, even after the round ending and checking on him after the doctors were there.

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                      I don't know, I think it was in old "unified" rules.

                      If the fighter is unconscious at the end of a fight I think he should lose. I'm not sure if he was unconscious when the bell sounded though.
                      Last edited by Dave_S; 04-23-2018, 01:32 AM.

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                      • johnmangala
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4525

                        #3131
                        Re: MMA Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by MacGowan
                        MMA math?
                        If I were saying Lee would beat Barboza because he hypothetically beat Khabib. That is MMA math.

                        What I said was observing the differences between Khabib and Lee in performance against a common opponent.

                        A stylistic comparison rather than saying A would beat C because A beat B and B beat C.

                        There isn't much to MMA math- it works sometimes and it doesn't.

                        Overeem beat Lesnar then beat Mir.

                        JDS beat Carwin then Mir.

                        Ronda beat Tate, then loses to Holm, but Tate beat Holm.

                        Speaking of JDS, he got cleared by USADA today for containmented supplements.

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                        • TheJamesKraus
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 573

                          #3132
                          Re: MMA Off-Topic

                          Khabib and Lee have 2 common opponents.

                          Lee lost a decision to Ragin Al.

                          Both looked great against Edson but Khabib didn’t take any damage.. and I believe he could’ve finished Barboza inside 3 but he wanted to go the distance due to his inactivity.

                          Kevin Lee’s cardio, chin and heart are all questionable. His wrestling is the only factor in the fight with Khabib so maybe they should fight in the WWE

                          I think Khabib vs Conor at MSG in November is next.

                          Kevin Lee will fight Alvarez/Poirier and it’s Poirier who seems more likely since in Eddies recent interview he was saying he will sit and wait for Khabib lol.

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                          • johnmangala
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 4525

                            #3133
                            Re: MMA Off-Topic

                            Exactly, and just because Khabib beat Iaquinta and Iaquinta beat Lee doesn't mean Khabib would necessarily beat Lee.

                            I think 1v1 stylistic comparisons are better predictors than past common opponents in general, but they all provide information.

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                            • Dave_S
                              Dave
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 7835

                              #3134
                              Re: MMA Off-Topic

                              Styles make fights. I think Andrade has very good chance against Rose, and Andrade has no chance against JJ.

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                              • MacGowan
                                Sassy
                                • Jun 2017
                                • 1681

                                #3135
                                Re: MMA Off-Topic

                                Great, Khabib's gonna wait 'til November/December to defend his belt...

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