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  • whoady4shoady
    Rookie
    • Jun 2007
    • 345

    #16
    Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

    Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
    Lol, I might be down with it more if dancing was involved. I know it's not against the rules, it just seems lame to me. Half the time their fingers are in the dudes eyes and it just seems like a weak way to restrict someone's air. I'm weird like that though, I think footstomps are wack too.
    Im guessing you hated soccer kicks from Pride then too. I hate how people can lay on the ground and turtle up in the UFC. Soccer kicks to the head and body always took care of that bull in short time.

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    • Pappy Knuckles
      LORDTHUNDERBIRD
      • Sep 2004
      • 15966

      #17
      Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

      Originally posted by whoady4shoady
      Im guessing you hated soccer kicks from Pride then too. I hate how people can lay on the ground and turtle up in the UFC. Soccer kicks to the head and body always took care of that bull in short time.
      I have no problem with soccer kicks or knees to the head on a grounded opponent. The two things I mentioned are different in my eyes.

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      • Pappy Knuckles
        LORDTHUNDERBIRD
        • Sep 2004
        • 15966

        #18
        Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

        Originally posted by Acedeck
        At the end of the day, MMA is a brutal sport no matter what. We're talking about a sport where it's legal to restrict the most vital element of life, oxygen. Honestly, I don't see a problem with nut shots, hair pulling, and covering the mouth when you really look at what the sport is to begin with. If you can restrict air, I don't see how anything else is considered illegal. What's wrong with gouging out a persons eyeballs? It's only vision he loses. At least he can still live without eyes. You can't live without air.

        /turns off devils advocate switch.
        This is so out there I'm just gonna assume you're being funny or sarcastic.

        The key word that was repeated in that paragraph is sport. That's exactly what MMA is. It's a very brutal sport, but nevertheless it's a competition that requires rules. I would not be interested in watching anything where eye gouging, biting, hair pulling, or anything else of the sort was allowed.
        Last edited by Pappy Knuckles; 05-26-2009, 04:26 PM.

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        • allBthere
          All Star
          • Jan 2008
          • 5847

          #19
          Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

          I hate it too, and wouldn't mind if they made it illegal. There are too many fingers wandering fast around the face and people put their fingers in the eyes all the time. You often see the guy on the ground squinting to protect against it. If they allow that, you should be able to bite the damn fingers! GET THAT **** OUT OF MY ****ING MOUTH!!! ...know what I mean?!!?

          it is a garbage tactic.
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          • Stack
            Rookie
            • Apr 2004
            • 132

            #20
            Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

            low blows, eye gouging, hair pulling, strikes to the base(back) of the head, knees to the head of a downed opponent, to a certain degree up kicks to the chin, are illegal for a reason. You have to have some sort of rules in this brutal sport, to protect the fighters to some degree.

            It's a fighting competition not a death match.
            Last edited by Stack; 05-26-2009, 04:29 PM.

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            • Scoop_Brady
              MVP
              • Aug 2003
              • 1022

              #21
              Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

              Originally posted by allBthere
              I hate it too, and wouldn't mind if they made it illegal. There are too many fingers wandering fast around the face and people put their fingers in the eyes all the time. You often see the guy on the ground squinting to protect against it. If they allow that, you should be able to bite the damn fingers! GET THAT **** OUT OF MY ****ING MOUTH!!! ...know what I mean?!!?

              it is a garbage tactic.
              I don't think I've ever seen a finger to the eye in this situation. The only time I've seen fingers to the eyes was during punches or trying to gauge distance. And if fighters don't like having their mouth covered maybe they shouldn't be the bitch during the fight and use a sweep or switch to get out.
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              • ManiacMatt1782
                Who? Giroux!
                • Jul 2006
                • 3982

                #22
                Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

                Originally posted by Acedeck
                At the end of the day, MMA is a brutal sport no matter what. We're talking about a sport where it's legal to restrict the most vital element of life, oxygen. Honestly, I don't see a problem with nut shots, hair pulling, and covering the mouth when you really look at what the sport is to begin with. If you can restrict air, I don't see how anything else is considered illegal. What's wrong with gouging out a persons eyeballs? It's only vision he loses. At least he can still live without eyes. You can't live without air.

                /turns off devils advocate switch.
                to be fair most MMA "chokes are blood chokes, not air chokes. but it does cut off oxygen to the brain, since blood is the main carrier of oxygen to the brain. but it would take longer to kill someone with a blod choke than an air choke, so its safer. the can be out for a little bit and be ok. air chokes give you less time from the point of unconciousness till possible death.
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                • damien6663
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 362

                  #23
                  Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

                  From someone who grapples, having something over your mouth really does disrupt your breathing, it can be pretty annoying. I also think its a beat cheesy, imo you wana KO or SUB your opponent, not sit their holding their mouth shut.

                  I also find the gi at bjj in general to be lame also (personal opinion). And put mouth covering in the same category of lame as gi chokes, and for kickboxing the constant front kicker.

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                  • whoady4shoady
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 345

                    #24
                    Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

                    Originally posted by allBthere
                    I hate it too, and wouldn't mind if they made it illegal. There are too many fingers wandering fast around the face and people put their fingers in the eyes all the time. You often see the guy on the ground squinting to protect against it. If they allow that, you should be able to bite the damn fingers! GET THAT **** OUT OF MY ****ING MOUTH!!! ...know what I mean?!!?

                    it is a garbage tactic.
                    Fingers in the eyes is a no no, but hands over the eyes and face is fine. I see nothing wrong with that. You also here the ref all the time warning the fighters to watch those eyes.

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                    • whoady4shoady
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 345

                      #25
                      Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

                      Originally posted by damien6663
                      From someone who grapples, having something over your mouth really does disrupt your breathing, it can be pretty annoying. I also think its a beat cheesy, imo you wana KO or SUB your opponent, not sit their holding their mouth shut.

                      I also find the gi at bjj in general to be lame also (personal opinion). And put mouth covering in the same category of lame as gi chokes, and for kickboxing the constant front kicker.
                      It is also rather annoying to not be able to breathe from a choke/submission. Some of you guys arent making much sense to me.

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                      • damien6663
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 362

                        #26
                        Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

                        It makes total sense man, it is annoying, will u pass out from a hand over your mouth...no. Still it disrupts your breathing and if you are already fatigued it can make it rather difficult to recover as quick as normally.

                        I don't know why you are comparing it with a choke...

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                        • whoady4shoady
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 345

                          #27
                          Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

                          Originally posted by damien6663
                          It makes total sense man, it is annoying, will u pass out from a hand over your mouth...no. Still it disrupts your breathing and if you are already fatigued it can make it rather difficult to recover as quick as normally.

                          I don't know why you are comparing it with a choke...

                          Have you ever watched or competed in MMA?

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                          • tommyjohn52181
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 28

                            #28
                            Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

                            Why will I not fit in? Because I am a real fighter and get pissed off at reading 14 year old geeks on message boards who think they know about fighting but are completely off??? You're right, if thats the case I won't fit in here

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                            • DocHolliday
                              Farewell and 'ado
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 4698

                              #29
                              Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

                              Originally posted by tommyjohn52181
                              Why will I not fit in? Because I am a real fighter and get pissed off at reading 14 year old geeks on message boards who think they know about fighting but are completely off??? You're right, if thats the case I won't fit in here
                              Ill bet a million dollars you have never been in a fight, and you are in fact the "geek" here.

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                              • Phobia
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 11623

                                #30
                                Re: Wrestlers and their garbage tactic

                                Originally posted by tommyjohn52181
                                Why will I not fit in? Because I am a real fighter and get pissed off at reading 14 year old geeks on message boards who think they know about fighting but are completely off??? You're right, if thats the case I won't fit in here
                                Tommy I think u have not been here long enough to know that most of us here are adults. So the whole 14 year old thing is way out of left field. Of course their are young kids on the boards but the majority here are much older.

                                Now on to your total lack of respect. NO ONE will take you serious or even care what you say. Just like the real world buddy, you talk down to someone and you will get ZERO respect. I personally don't believe a word that has come out your mouth. Oh and no i have never fought MMA(So that makes u know more than me right?? LOL). But I use to Box though.

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