Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

[filmguy1974]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

Yeah, Rampage should have fought an immediate rematch with a fighter that just beat him. That would be great for PPV. Add in the fact that he had a mental breakdown and got arrested shortly there after. C'mon man, seriously.

Uhhhh....

Actually- you might recall some controversy after the Griffin/Rampage fight. Many people scored that fight differently than the judges, and Dana was fielding questions about an immediate rematch left and right at the post fight presser. It's not like I'm some crazy person dreaming this up. Prior to 'Page's mental breakdown- there was almost nothing but talk of an immediate rematch.

As for 'Pages breakdown- he was still able to rebound and got himself an impressive win on the exact same card as Griffin's first title defense. He was obviously ready in time.

[Rau71]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

Im picking shogun as the upset. Mark my words. He will win the decision. I like Machida by the way, but I dont see him being able to keep shogun off of him like he did with Evans.

What about how until like 10 seconds left he didn't let Tito touch him? Machida doesn't get taken down as easily as you think he does.

[LP]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

Im picking shogun as the upset. Mark my words. He will win the decision. I like Machida by the way, but I dont see him being able to keep shogun off of him like he did with Evans.

He has kept every other fighter off of him. I guess we will see.

[Rau71]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

You seem like you play straight up, Rau. I accepted your request last night, we'll have to get some games in. I haven't played a ton of people from the site yet, hopefully I can make my rounds this weekend.

Thank you. I look forward to trying to keep a close fight with you.

[filmguy1974]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

I feel like Evans deserved the title shot against Forrest more than Thiago or Lyoto did at that time. He won against everyone that was put in front of him and his wins were against bigger names. However, Thiago was undefeated too and he was straight up murdering people. Because of that I can understand how someone could've ranked him higher than Evans. The brutality of his wins left a big impression.

And I'm saying that you're far too reasonable and intelligent for me to be able to have any fun talking to on an internet forum.

[wyrm187]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

Im picking shogun as the upset. Mark my words. He will win the decision. I like Machida by the way, but I dont see him being able to keep shogun off of him like he did with Evans.

I hear you - I think Rua will be KO'd , not calling a round - 2 different classes and a major mismatch IMO , I will definately not be ordering this fight - I will however be betting on it -

I do kinda like the way boxing does it though to give the champ a shot after he loses the title, kinda wish that they did it in UFC but whatever

[DueceDiggla]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

This is a great main event. I can't understand how people aren't happy with this matchup.

Machida will be a huge favorite, but you can't disregard Rua's past. The guy had cardio problems and injuries when he first got to the UFC, but he dominated in Pride and it seems like he's getting closer to his old self. I think Machida takes it, but other then Rampage, who else is more deserving the Rua?

[filmguy1974]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

Im picking shogun as the upset. Mark my words. He will win the decision. I like Machida by the way, but I dont see him being able to keep shogun off of him like he did with Evans.

I'm rooting for Shogun, as he's one of my personal faves, but it's hard to imagine this one going well for him. I fear it's going to look a lot like the Thiago/Lyoto fight.

[Rau71]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

Yeah, Rampage should have fought an immediate rematch with a fighter that just beat him. That would be great for PPV. Add in the fact that he had a mental breakdown and got arrested shortly there after. C'mon man, seriously.

Rampage's return fight was on the same card.

[SHO]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

Most of Thiago's win weren't against quality oppponents IMO.

[Rau71]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

I get the feeling that Rampage truly doesn't give a **** about the belt. I think he'll enjoy it if he wins it again, but he's more concerned with simply fighting and making money. He was screwed out the title when they gave it to Forrest, but it doesn't appear to be eating at him that much. I think that was such a hectic time in his life that he's just taking things as they come.

I feel like Evans deserved the title shot against Forrest more than Thiago or Lyoto did at that time. He won against everyone that was put in front of him and his wins were against bigger names. However, Thiago was undefeated too and he was straight up murdering people. Because of that I can understand how someone could've ranked him higher than Evans. The brutality of his wins left a big impression.

I agree 100% about Rampage. After they stole his belt he seems to care about making money and ending grudges. I think you are right about Thiago too, when you crush people like that it sticks in the head more then a split decision.

[filmguy1974]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

This is a great main event. I can't understand how people aren't happy with this matchup.

Oh- I'm plenty happy with it. It's not like we have reason to believe that 'Page would do any better against Lyoto than a healthy Shogun will.

The only guy that I think could give Lyoto a real run for his money is Anderson, and we already know that fight's out of the question. I think the guy's going to have the belt for a good while.

[DueceDiggla]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

Oh- I'm plenty happy with it. It's not like we have reason to believe that 'Page would do any better against Lyoto than a healthy Shogun will.

Exactly.

[Luck911]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

He has kept every other fighter off of him. I guess we will see.

Cough Cough BJPenn Cough Cough

[Rau71]

Re: Machida vs Shogun...UFC 104

Cough Cough BJPenn Cough Cough

BJ Penn, the best BJJ fighter in the UFC maybe, had Machida on the ground and couldn't do a thing.