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  • snakerattle79
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    • Jul 2008
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    Fedor On Time Magazine



    Imagine a pro quarterback with Peyton Manning's talent playing up in the Canadian Football League instead of the NFL. Or picture Tiger Woods shunning the PGA and all the major championships to star in the second-string Nationwide Tour. It may sound ridiculous, but the fast-growing, wildly popular sport of mixed martial arts (MMA) is grappling with such an unthinkable, uncomfortable scenario.

    And it couldn't come at a worse time. Just as the sport's premier league, the Ultimate Fighting Championship, prepares to stage its milestone UFC 100 event in Las Vegas this Saturday — which is expected to attract more than 1 million pay-per-view purchases — the top fighter in the world has no plans to participate. Instead of slugging it out in Sin City, Fedor Emelianenko, 32, will be training in a small Russian mining town 385 miles south of Moscow, preparing for an Aug. 1 pay-per-view fight in Anaheim, Calif., against former UFC champion Josh Barnett. That fight is being co-promoted by M-1 Global, an Amsterdam-based organization in which Fedor has an ownership stake, and Affliction Entertainment, an upstart UFC challenger whose financial backers include Donald Trump and Mark Cuban (Cuban's cable network, HDNet, televises Affliction fights). Why isn't Fedor fighting for the more established brand? "The UFC wants his mind, his soul, his body," says Joost Raimond, chief operating officer for M-1 Global. (See pictures of women's ultimate fighting.)

    A former member of the Russian army who possesses an assassin's glare and a face-denting right jab, Emelianenko, the top-ranked heavyweight in the world, is so good he is known simply as "Fedor," according to the World Alliance of Mixed Martial Arts. He has won 30 fights in his career and lost just one, a controversial referee's decision in Japan nine years ago. Fedor has already beaten five former UFC champions, two of them twice. He has finished four of them off in the first round.

    "He's the best," says Freddie Roach, a famed fight trainer who has worked with boxing greats Mike Tyson, Oscar de la Hoya, Manny Pacquiao and Fedor's last opponent, Andrei Arlovski, whom Fedor knocked out in three minutes in January. "He's so calm. He sees things happening. If you make a mistake, he'll knock you out. That's the mark of a great fighter."

    Not having that great fighter as part of the UFC has been a rare black eye for a promoter that has enjoyed a meteoric rise over the past decade. Led by its irascible president, foul-mouthed ex–aerobics instructor Dana White, the UFC has turned the blood sport from a fringe combination of boxing, wrestling and Taekwondo with a handful of followers into a global spectacle that has come to dominate pay-per-view television. The UFC generated $300 million in pay-per-view revenue in 2008, surpassing both boxing and pro wrestling for the second straight year. According to the UFC, 473 million TV households in more than 60 countries now have access to its programming; that kind of reach was enough to get White and his partners a $1.2 billion offer to sell the UFC about a year ago, which they ultimately turned down, according to White. "And we haven't even scratched the surface," says White, no fan of understatement. "We're still so far from mainstream. I am 100% confident that we are going to be the biggest sport in the world in 10 years." Sure, that's a bit much, but the UFC's hold over mixed martial arts is so complete that most people just call the sport "ultimate fighting." (See photos of boxers fighting their way out of poverty in Thailand.)

    According to Fedor, White offered him a UFC deal two years ago. "What they wanted was very rigid," says Fedor, through an interpreter, during a recent interview in New York City, where he had gone to promote the Aug. 1 fight. In conversation, Fedor is serene, but his narrow eyes are piercing, just like those of one of his biggest fans, Russian Prime Minister (and martial-arts practitioner) Vladimir Putin. "The bottom line was that the UFC was a one-sided offer, and you know, that's something that can never be acceptable," he says.

    Fedor says White demanded that he fight exclusively with the UFC. Given his stake in his own promotion company, M-1 Global, that would have been a significant sacrifice. Fedor also insists the UFC would have virtually owned him if he won and would have been able to dump him if he lost. "If I was the UFC champion, I would never be able to leave the UFC," Fedor says. "The contract would just keep extending and extending. But if I lost, they could just kick me out of the UFC."

    Further complicating matters, Fedor also specializes in another form of martial arts called sambo. This judo-like sport was developed for the Red Army after World War I and is now a Russian pastime. Under White's dictates, says Fedor, he'd have to stay away from sambo. "That's something I do for the pride of my country and is very important to me," says Fedor.

    TIME asked White to respond to Fedor's accusations, and he pulled no punches. "Let me put it to you this way. I've done fight contracts with all the best fighters in the world," he said, working his way to the knockout blow. "With big huge superstars — Brock Lesnar, Chuck Liddell, the list goes on and on. Who the f___ is Fedor? Are you serious? The guys who fight for me have a chance to make a lot more money fighting with me than with anybody else. If he signed with us, he'd find his place in history, find out if he really is the best heavyweight in the world. It's all semantics. It's all bulls___." It wasn't the first time White had used fighting words. At a UFC-fight press conference in April, White said, "Fedor is not the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world ... Fedor is at a buffet somewhere in Russia." (Read "Ultimate Fighting's Ultimate Fight.")

    So despite growing pressure from ultimate-fighting fans who want White to sign Fedor, it doesn't look like the pair will be doing celebratory vodka shots anytime soon. "Fedor doesn't make or break my business one way or the other, you know what I mean?" says White. "The reality is, I don't need Fedor." Still, over the long term, the Fedor-White standoff could leave mixed martial arts much like pro boxing, decimated by warring promoters and fighters, with talent spread across too many divisions for followers to keep count. After all, no sport can keep rolling in the dough if fans keep feeling shortchanged.
  • biglami
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    • Aug 2004
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    What people do not understand is that the UFC is and is not the equivalent of the NBA/ NFL/ MLB/ NHL. It is a US based organization, so it shares that with the leagues we know. But US based are not always the best. For example, the MLS is US based but it is hardly as god s the Euro leagues. Dream (run by the same guys who ran Pride before they sold it to the UFC) and Affliction are as good as if not better than the UFC. They are just not as popular with casual MMA fans, who all know UFC.

    If you look at the Top 10 fighters in each weight class, you will see a lot of UFC guys, but you will see more guys from other organizations who find that those organizations are just better for their career goals.
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    • sven
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      • Jul 2002
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      Originally posted by biglami
      What people do not understand is that the UFC is and is not the equivalent of the NBA/ NFL/ MLB/ NHL. It is a US based organization, so it shares that with the leagues we know. But US based are not always the best. For example, the MLS is US based but it is hardly as god s the Euro leagues. Dream (run by the same guys who ran Pride before they sold it to the UFC) and Affliction are as good as if not better than the UFC. They are just not as popular with casual MMA fans, who all know UFC.

      If you look at the Top 10 fighters in each weight class, you will see a lot of UFC guys, but you will see more guys from other organizations who find that those organizations are just better for their career goals.
      Dream and Affliction are nowhere near the UFC sorry to burst your bubble. Outside of maybe one division neither company can match the UFC's roster. If Affliction had to run a show the month after their next show they'd be completely and utterly ****ed. They have recycled most of the same fighters for all 3 shows over the last year and half. Without Fedor to headline every show they have nothing. Even with him they dont have that much. And with the beauty of Non-exclusive contracts(which is one of Fedors whining points with the UFC) Afflictions HW division has gone to complete ****. After Fedor/Barnett they have nothing left. After that there is nobody left for Fedor. So in a few weeks they wont even have single division that they can compete with the UFC in. Atleast Dream will still have the LW division.

      Basically you'd have to completely combine Dream, Affliction, and Strikeforce to even come close to the UFC's roster of talent and even then you'd probably still come up way short at LHW, MW, and WW.

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      • snakerattle79
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        • Jul 2008
        • 167

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        Re: Fedor On Time Magazine

        Originally posted by biglami
        What people do not understand is that the UFC is and is not the equivalent of the NBA/ NFL/ MLB/ NHL. It is a US based organization, so it shares that with the leagues we know. But US based are not always the best. For example, the MLS is US based but it is hardly as god s the Euro leagues. Dream (run by the same guys who ran Pride before they sold it to the UFC) and Affliction are as good as if not better than the UFC. They are just not as popular with casual MMA fans, who all know UFC.

        If you look at the Top 10 fighters in each weight class, you will see a lot of UFC guys, but you will see more guys from other organizations who find that those organizations are just better for their career goals.

        You Nailed It, Agreed

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        • Scoop_Brady
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          • Aug 2003
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          Re: Fedor On Time Magazine

          biglami,
          It's true that the MLS is not the be all, end all of soccer in the world but the UFC is not the MLS. The UFC set the standard for MMA in a lot of people's minds and it is followed all over the world. In that sense the UFC is the equivalent of MLB, NFL, and NBA. Other countries have leagues but all of the attention worldwide goes to the MLB, NFL, and NBA. Same thing goes with the UFC. There's no doubt that Dream, Affliction, and Strikeforce has a fanbase, one that even stretches outside of their native country, but in the end the UFC is the grand stage for MMA in the world.

          Like sven said, none of those promotions can touch the UFC when it comes to the stable of talent. Not even by combining them. Add the WEC to the UFC stable and now you've got the best stable of MMA fighters in the world. Dana is 100% correct in saying that they don't need Fedor. Fedor is 32 now so in 5-7 years it really won't matter anymore if the UFC has him or not because they will have the current crop of outstanding fighters and will just keep rolling on. If Fedor doesn't fight in the UFC then in 5-7 years you'll have people saying he's the best but you would almost have to put an asterisk by his name since he never fought in the UFC.

          Fedor wants his cake and wants to eat it too. The fact of the matter is he's had his cake and he's already eaten it. If he wants to leave an unblemished legacy he needs to fight in the UFC, especially if Brock wins tonight.

          If Affliction doesn't find a bunch of fighters soon or merge with Strikeforce or something they just can't be taken seriously as a threat to the UFC. They average 2 PPV's per year while the UFC has a PPV just about every month with TUF on twice per year and multiple Fight Nights on Spike. Who's kidding who?
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          • Wet Bandit
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            • Apr 2009
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            Re: Fedor On Time Magazine

            Originally posted by biglami
            If you look at the Top 10 fighters in each weight class, you will see a lot of UFC guys, but you will see more guys from other organizations who find that those organizations are just better for their career goals.
            Using MMA Weekly's top 10 rankings, in the five divisions in the UFC, they've got 31 of the 50 fighters in the those rankings. And they've got the two best fighters in both the featherweight and bantamweight divisions down in the WEC.

            And beyond that, they've got an incredible depth to their roster that allows them to put out cards filled with good, talented fighters on average over once a month.

            There's simply no other organization that can compete with that. Not even close. Maybe if you pooled all the other organizations in the world, maybe, but even then that roster would probably come up short.

            Dream and Affliction are solid organizations, and they've got some amount of potential (Dream especially), but they don't currently stack up with the UFC in any way really.

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            • snakerattle79
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              • Jul 2008
              • 167

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              Re: Fedor On Time Magazine

              Originally posted by Wet Bandit
              Using MMA Weekly's top 10 rankings, in the five divisions in the UFC, they've got 31 of the 50 fighters in the those rankings. And they've got the two best fighters in both the featherweight and bantamweight divisions down in the WEC.

              And beyond that, they've got an incredible depth to their roster that allows them to put out cards filled with good, talented fighters on average over once a month.

              There's simply no other organization that can compete with that. Not even close. Maybe if you pooled all the other organizations in the world, maybe, but even then that roster would probably come up short.

              Dream and Affliction are solid organizations, and they've got some amount of potential (Dream especially), but they don't currently stack up with the UFC in any way really.
              since Orgs outside the UFC does co promoting or have non exclusive contracts, fighters can pretty much bounce around and fight the best outside of the UFC thus making it like all these non UFC orgs a single ORG all together. UFC is just impeding Dream fights which fans wants because of their Close System, until the UFC open its door to do cross over matches we will still continue to see a division of Talents between UFC and Non UFC Orgs

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              • taylor62085
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                • Nov 2003
                • 52

                #8
                Re: Fedor On Time Magazine

                There are plenty of very good baseball players that don't play in the MLB (Cuba, Japan, etc.). Japan won the WBC with mostly non-MLB players and I don't hear an uproar that Yu Darvish isn't in the MLB. I'm sure the MLB would love to have him but they are doing just fine without him. The only difference is these guys are fighting stateside for everyone to see and compare with UFC fighters while if you don't play in the US for MLB you are out of sight and out of mind.

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