UFC 101: Declaration - August 8th in Philadelphia

[Wet Bandit]

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But wasn't Fitch in the doghouse for refusing to sign his life away for the UFC game? I know he temporarily got released from the UFC...

It might have been that, but it might have also just been the card. St. Pierre/Penn, Machida/Leites, and Diaz/Guida were obviously going to be on the main card. So that left Fitch/Gono with Jon Jones/Bonnar and Parisyan/Dong Hyun Kim. Odds were Jones/Bonnar was going to be entertaining, and I guess they picked Parisyan/Kim for Kim's international appeal.

I'd imagine Fitch's fight would have been the first to get bumped up if he got a finish (which he didn't) and there was time (which there wasn't, considering the five main card matches went 14 full rounds).

[DueceDiggla]

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The Forrest fight should be sick. I really don't see Anderson toying with him like he has done with everyone else. Forrest is HUGE is person, like a HW so size should play a big role. I think Forrest has a good shot at beating Silva.

[MC Fatigue]

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You know - I like Forrest a lot, but I think he's going to get steam rolled. He seems kind of inconsistent to me, and I think he's slightly overrated as a fighter. He did well against Rampage, but Rampage is also looking fairly one-dimensional lately.

Against Evans he was just doing the same leg kick stuff, and while it worked for a while, as soon as he got caught it was just over.

Then there's Jardine who's extremely inconsistent, and he just railed off on Forrest.

While I like Forrest, I think he's really a back and forth guy - and if he isn't 100% ready to go, I think Silva is just going to take him out. He's not going to just take leg kicks, so Forrest is going to have to find another method of attack, and I think he if tries to go in swinging, Silva is going to clobber him - and I think if it goes to the ground, he's going to have to be very careful not to let Silva catch him with something.

I really think Silva's just going to run through him.

I kind of hope I'm wrong, though - because it'd be great to see someone like Forrest get that boost.

[sven]

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I mean I know the fight wasn't a good one but I just have never seen that before. But I deleted the post cause I forgot that he was on the undercard in his fight before Silva. So after seeing that I guess it's not that big of problem lol.

It happens....rarely. Fitch was on the undercard against Gono after his fight with GSP. In his case Fitch pissed Dana off by not signing the video game agreement.

[The Chef]

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In a perfect world Forrest pulls the upset and Penn destroys Florian. You going to lose your mind Timmay if Florian just gets manhandled and beat up? I hope so since according to you Penn is "extremely overrated", which couldnt be further from the case.

[MC Fatigue]

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In a perfect world Forrest pulls the upset and Penn destroys Florian. You going to lose your mind Timmay if Florian just gets manhandled and beat up? I hope so since according to you Penn is "extremely overrated", which couldnt be further from the case.

Not at all - it's a fight and anyone can lose. And yes, he's overrated.

The man has to drop to 155 because he can't hack 170. Then he wins the title after one fight, and defends it once, and then suddenly people think he even deserves to step in the octagon with GSP (who of course absolutely destroys him)?

He's overrated. He's a great fighter - but he's certainly not as good as so many people seem to think he is.

[Whitesox]

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I'm taking KenFlo and Griffen.

[dbly32]

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I'll go with Florian and Silva. And all the props in the world to Mark Coleman for beating that bum Stephan Bonnar who no longer deserves to be in the UFC but will no doubt continue because he's Dana's little baby.

Steroids, crappy UFC record, looks like Lord Stephen Regal. Get rid of him!

[trojan49er]

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He didnt have to drop down to 155 because he couldnt hack it, 155 is his natural weight class, thats like saying sherk dropped because he couldnt hack it or saying KenFlo dropped to 155 because he couldnt hack it at 185 or 170, same with diego (granted 170 is more natural for him, he's just smaller than a lot of the elite contenders) or saying Rashad dropped to 205 because he couldnt hack it as a heavyweight...hell, Rashad could probably make 185 if he wanted to. BJ was the 170 champ, the reason he got the rematch with GSP was because he had put on a clinic starting with Pulver, then going right through Sherk and Stevenson. At the time, Florian wasnt considered to be a worthy challenger and the money was in a rematch of a very close, VERY controversial fight between two of the best fighters in the sport, both of whom were/are the WW champ. The only reason BJ moved up to 170 in the first place was that the UFC disbanded their 155 division. Also, at the time, there wasnt really a #1 contender for GSP's title. It was the perfect time to set up the rematch both becuase of the fighters' situations and because of the inevitable cash cow that was the rematch. Based on your given reason for Penn being overrated, Rashad, Sherk, Diego, KenFlo, Penn, Couture, Franklin, Bisping, Henderson, and Wanderlei are all overrated

[The Chef]

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He didnt have to drop down to 155 because he couldnt hack it, 155 is his natural weight class, thats like saying sherk dropped because he couldnt hack it or saying KenFlo dropped to 155 because he couldnt hack it at 185 or 170, same with diego (granted 170 is more natural for him, he's just smaller than a lot of the elite contenders) or saying Rashad dropped to 205 because he couldnt hack it as a heavyweight...hell, Rashad could probably make 185 if he wanted to. BJ was the 170 champ, the reason he got the rematch with GSP was because he had put on a clinic starting with Pulver, then going right through Sherk and Stevenson. At the time, Florian wasnt considered to be a worthy challenger and the money was in a rematch of a very close, VERY controversial fight between two of the best fighters in the sport, both of whom were/are the WW champ. The only reason BJ moved up to 170 in the first place was that the UFC disbanded their 155 division. Also, at the time, there wasnt really a #1 contender for GSP's title. It was the perfect time to set up the rematch both becuase of the fighters' situations and because of the inevitable cash cow that was the rematch. Based on your given reason for Penn being overrated, Rashad, Sherk, Diego, KenFlo, Penn, Couture, Franklin, Bisping, Henderson, and Wanderlei are all overrated

Save your breath, Timmay has a never ending hatred for Penn and there isnt anything anyone will say to change that. Hes like those fans that refuse to acknowledge anything a fighter has done because theyre judgement is so clouded by their hatred for said fighter. Im a Penn fan so Im cheering for him to win but my desire to see him absolutely demolish Florian is in large part to stick it to Timmay and his man crush.

[Gibbz]

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Silva-Griffin has me pumped, but I have almost zero interest in the rest of the fights.

[trojan49er]

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Save your breath, Timmay has a never ending hatred for Penn and there isnt anything anyone will say to change that. Hes like those fans that refuse to acknowledge anything a fighter has done because theyre judgement is so clouded by their hatred for said fighter. Im a Penn fan so Im cheering for him to win but my desire to see him absolutely demolish Florian is in large part to stick it to Timmay and his man crush.

I'm just saying that his reasoning for calling Penn overrated rationally renders his man crush Florian equally, if not more overrated as he dropped 2 weight classes because he "couldnt hack it"

[Bona Fide]

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Awesome card. Very excited for Penn-Florian and Silva-Griffin fights. Neer-Pelegrino has awesome potential to be fight of the night, and there are some good matches on the undercard. Very much looking forward to this.

[MC Fatigue]

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Save your breath, Timmay has a never ending hatred for Penn and there isnt anything anyone will say to change that. Hes like those fans that refuse to acknowledge anything a fighter has done because theyre judgement is so clouded by their hatred for said fighter. Im a Penn fan so Im cheering for him to win but my desire to see him absolutely demolish Florian is in large part to stick it to Timmay and his man crush.

Do I even know you? I don't recall ever talking to you on this forum yet you seem to act like you know who I am... While being quite wrong.

[The Chef]

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Do I even know you? I don't recall ever talking to you on this forum yet you seem to act like you know who I am... While being quite wrong.

How exactly am I wrong? Ive seen you time and time again refer to Penn as overrated. Ive seen you voice how you cant stand Penn on multiple occasions, Ive seen you cheer whenever Penn has lost so how exactly could I be wrong when I said you had a hatred for him? I noticed that you didnt address what the other poster said, I guess having to hold your man crush to the same standards as you hold Penn to would show a flaw in your thinking so I guess its best to avoid that at all costs. I cant wait to hear you explain to me what I was wrong about.