Strikeforce In Talks With Fedor And Management

[snakerattle79]

http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Fedor-Emelianenko-offered-Strikeforce-deal-What-happens-next.html

Sources close to the fighter have informed FiveKnuckles.com that Strikeforce were in talks with Affliction, M-1 Global and Golden Boy promotions on a long term deal with Emelianenko with in the last couple of days. The promotion reportedly offered the former Pride champion between 500,000 and 700,000 per fight, a non-exclusive contract, guaranteed exposure on CBS shows and a cut of any PPV event he was a part of. Emelianenko would certainly be able to get maximum mainstream U.S. exposure via CBS and Showtime which could lead possible big money endorsement deals and he'd also get to enjoy the freedoms associated with Strikeforce's non-exclusive contracts. This scenario is considered a strong possibility if Emelianenko is indeed a free agent according to inside sources.

Rumors are flying right now, so it's difficult to know exactly how all of this will play out. Sources have stated that Emelianenko's management contract allows him to brake his management contract if he's not put into a certain number of fights each year, and that may also be a possibility how unlikely it seems given his strong relationship to Vadim Finklestein and the rest of his management team at M-1.

Emelianenko is currently en route to California, according to M-1 officials, and will be making a statement regarding the situation by soon after his arrival, which should shed more light on the situation.

We'll have that for you as soon as it becomes available.

[Iadf]

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that sounds like a really sweet deal though i want fedor in the ufc.I can't blame him for taking that deal though its probably much more than what the ufc would offer.

[Salhus]

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That's more than the UFC can offer? I hope not. I never fully understood Fedor not coming to UFC. A big chunk of his motives for fighting is for the money. Not because he loves whores and whiskey (or vodka), but because he had nothing growing up and had no reason to believe his circumstances would later change. Which, I respect.

[judgejudy]

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it may be less than what the ufc can offer, monetarily, but as is stated in every "OMG FEDOR TO THE UFC!@!)()!(" thread, he has a ton of national pride and competes in Sambo which the UFC won't allow him to do. that combined with the fact that should be become a belt holder he's exclusively contracted with them indefinitely makes him hesitant. As it should.

[sven]

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There really isnt anyone left for him to fight outside of the UFC besides Overeem. If he wants to rot in Strikeforce let him.

[Wet Bandit]

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it may be less than what the ufc can offer, monetarily, but as is stated in every "OMG FEDOR TO THE UFC!@!)()!(" thread, he has a ton of national pride and competes in Sambo which the UFC won't allow him to do. that combined with the fact that should be become a belt holder he's exclusively contracted with them indefinitely makes him hesitant. As it should.

A couple things straight from Lorenzo Fertitta.

Regarding sambo:

"We can figure something out. I think we need to have a situation where at least 90 or 120 days before he’s signed a contract to fight, he shouldn’t be out there competing in events like that because I don’t want to take the chance of him getting hurt."

And on the contract in general:

The facts are the facts. We made him the best offer out there, more money than anybody offered him –- so you can’t say it’s about the money. Then they come back and they say, “Well, it’s a one-sided contract.” Let’s break this down from a logical standpoint. We offered the exact same contract that three hundred other guys have signed, including Brock Lesnar, Chuck Liddell, Anderson Silva, GSP, all the top stars. Why is that contract not good enough for Fedor? What Fedor wants is this. He doesn’t want to be exclusive. So, it’s like saying, okay, Tom Brady: “I’m going to play for New England Patriots one Sunday, but you know what? After that game’s over, I want to be a free agent and go see where I can play for the rest of the season.” Every weekend he’s going to skip around and play for whoever he wants. How does that make sense for us as a business or for the fans?

Frankly, I think there's almost no chance Fedor lands in the UFC. The sambo thing is not an issue, it never really has been. All the UFC wants is some protection against injuries from sambo if Fedor's got an upcoming fight, which is obviously reasonable (and quite lax compared to provisions in contracts in other sports), but internet fans have blown it up to be, "ZOMG, Dana won't let Fedor do sambo. He wants him to spit on his national heritage! For shame, Dana!"

The sticking points are the exclusivity, because the UFC obviously will never do a deal that doesn't have exclusivity, and the absurd demand from Fedor's management that M-1 Global co-promote shows. Strikeforce, like Affliction, is willing to give Fedor those terms.

The UFC, for obvious reasons, is not. And frankly, the UFC will be fine without Fedor. They've built their brand up to the point where Fedor is unnecessary. And they're not going to risk that brand by co-promoting shows with some small promotion or by letting their champion go to a rival organization just to get Fedor.

[aholbert32]

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If he signs w/ Strikeforce, he is back in the same boat that he was in with Affliction. There are maybe 3 good possible fights in that league. Overeem, Rogers and maybe Werdum.... thats it. Honestly, I just want it to be over. I'm at the point where I could care less if he signs with the UFC or not. I'm impressed by his skill and think he is the top heavyweight in the world but if he doesnt want to sign an reasonable contract....**** him.

[allBthere]

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If he signs w/ Strikeforce, he is back in the same boat that he was in with Affliction. There are maybe 3 good possible fights in that league. Overeem, Rogers and maybe Werdum.... thats it. Honestly, I just want it to be over. I'm at the point where I could care less if he signs with the UFC or not. I'm impressed by his skill and think he is the top heavyweight in the world but if he doesnt want to sign an reasonable contract....**** him.

+1 agree 100%

[goh]

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"The promotion reportedly offered the former Pride champion between 500,000 and 700,000 per fight, a non-exclusive contract, guaranteed exposure on CBS shows and a cut of any PPV event he was a part of."

Fedor,bankrupting lesser MMA organizations one at a time.

[uedamasa]

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If he signs w/ Strikeforce, he is back in the same boat that he was in with Affliction. There are maybe 3 good possible fights in that league. Overeem, Rogers and maybe Werdum.... thats it. Honestly, I just want it to be over. I'm at the point where I could care less if he signs with the UFC or not. I'm impressed by his skill and think he is the top heavyweight in the world but if he doesnt want to sign an reasonable contract....**** him.

so what good possible fights in the UFC? Overrated Lesnar? soft dumb Mir? Old Washed up Couture? B- level guy in Herring? 3 times failure against Fedor in Nog? Unproven fighters like Carwin and Velaquez? Sucky take down defense skills in Kongo? or bum in Justin McCully? Fedor would rather fight Overeem,Barnett,Bigfoot in Japan

[allBthere]

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so what good possible fights in the UFC? Overrated Lesnar? soft dumb Mir? Old Washed up Couture? B- level guy in Herring? 3 times failure against Fedor in Nog? Unproven fighters like Carwin and Velaquez? Sucky take down defense skills in Kongo? or bum in Justin McCully? Fedor would rather fight Overeem,Barnett,Bigfoot in Japan

I personally think Lesnar would destroy him. I would actually rather Fedor win, but think Lesnar is just WAY too big and strong for him.

ps. Overeem is a bum - have you not seen him fight K-1? he's a bum and would get Ko'd a lot easier than Arlovski.

[uedamasa]

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I personally think Lesnar would destroy him. I would actually rather Fedor win, but think Lesnar is just WAY too big and strong for him.

ps. Overeem is a bum - have you not seen him fight K-1? he's a bum and would get Ko'd a lot easier than Arlovski.

you've seen Overeem's latest transformation? the guy is now Huge, had significantly improved his wrestling and standup together with his great submissions. Knocking out Badr Hari in K-1 is scary for Brock cause he will get KO'd standing up and get submitted on the ground..Fedor on the other Hand fought Giants and was always undersized his entire career but continously destroys his opponent., MMA aint a sport of giants, its about skills, all Brock has is his wrestling but Fedor is so great in all positions that even if he'll get taken down he can sweep or submit Brock with no prob.. Fedor will school Brock back to WWE

[MC Fatigue]

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you've seen Overeem's latest transformation? the guy is now Huge, had significantly improved his wrestling and standup together with his great submissions. Knocking out Badr Hari in K-1 is scary for Brock cause he will get KO'd standing up and get submitted on the ground..Fedor on the other Hand fought Giants and was always undersized his entire career but continously destroys his opponent., MMA aint a sport of giants, its about skills, all Brock has is his wrestling but Fedor is so great in all positions that even if he'll get taken down he can sweep or submit Brock with no prob.. Fedor will school Brock back to WWE

Fedor never really fought any giants who could actually fight, though. Brock can fight... He's not just big...

[MizzouBravesFan]

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so what good possible fights in the UFC? Overrated Lesnar? soft dumb Mir? Old Washed up Couture? B- level guy in Herring? 3 times failure against Fedor in Nog? Unproven fighters like Carwin and Velaquez? Sucky take down defense skills in Kongo? or bum in Justin McCully? Fedor would rather fight Overeem,Barnett,Bigfoot in Japan

Yeah I remember almost everyone saying the same things about CroCop and the UFC HW division until a relative unknown kicked his head into the 15th row.

There are tricky fights for Fedor in the UFC, no doubt in my mind.

[allBthere]

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you've seen Overeem's latest transformation? the guy is now Huge, had significantly improved his wrestling and standup together with his great submissions. Knocking out Badr Hari in K-1 is scary for Brock cause he will get KO'd standing up and get submitted on the ground..Fedor on the other Hand fought Giants and was always undersized his entire career but continously destroys his opponent., MMA aint a sport of giants, its about skills, all Brock has is his wrestling but Fedor is so great in all positions that even if he'll get taken down he can sweep or submit Brock with no prob.. Fedor will school Brock back to WWE

how is it that Mir didn't school brock...he's better in every area except wrestling and being uber-strong.
I dont see how fedor can get a guy off of him that cuts like hell to make 265. You're underestimating brock which is strange after seeing what he did to Mir.
I'd like to see Fedor win, but I think Brock has too big of an advantage...he's a superheavy w/ crazy strenght and good speed. he also has stopping power in his punches.
Fedor vs Mir is a more entertaining proposition imo.

If brock shoots for a takedown, what are you going to do at 230lbs? ...what? He's just too damn big and strong and can fight. just to say again, I'd rather Fedor win, I don't really like brock, but people are in for a rude awakening...the new bread of HW must be skilled and huge. If you're not big enough to take on brock, you gotta either fight smaller heavy's or move down to LHW.

and overeem has a crap chin, so good night.