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  • snakerattle79
    Banned
    • Jul 2008
    • 167

    #1

    Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world."

    M-1 Global Press Conference play by play

    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=...&page=1&pc=215
    Update here too - http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/7/29...or-ufc-deal-as
    and here - http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/07/29/f...-conference-c/

    Starting at 4pm... Anyone on the call? Mad Xyientist?

    I'll post updates as I get them.

    ----------------------

    4:07 pm - music playing, hasn't started yet
    4:12 - Jerry Millen said it will start in 3 more minutes
    Jerry Millen – Thank everyone for coming out on short notice. We’d rather be fighting but we’re here instead at this press conference.
    He’s introducing everyone on the panel…

    Vadim is up next
    Vadim - not only the UFC but all companies. (it's hard to understand the translator)

    Makes EA Sports Video Game announcement... says Fedor is heading the game.
    Fedor - I'm very happy to be in the video game. Thank you for coming, we'll be happy to answer all your questions.

    Asked about the future - " We are working on the options. We'll see... "

    "We're exploring all options... we are not prepared to disclose anything today"

    Fedor - "I have talked to Dana White on the phone yesterday"

    "Our offer is simple... we have a champion, they have a champion, we offer to have a co-promotion. And we're ready to invest together and get the profit together"

    "We do have a lot of negotiations and yes Strikeforce is one of them..”

    Vadim - "Fedor is the face of M-1 Global..." - M-1 stresses it has promoted MMA all over the world. should fight in UFC under the M-1 banner

    M-1 stresses that to do a deal with UFC, they want co-promotion. They think it's important for MMA to have competition, not UFC dominance.

    M-1 Global says it plans to increase the number of MMA shows it promotes.

    “We do want to work with the UFC, but we don’t want to wait, we want to move forward”
    “We will only work on co-promotion deals”
    Vadim – "Fedor and I are partners and we share the same interests. Money isn’t everything…. We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world."

    Fedor - "I completely trust Vadim and I'm very happy we work together"

    Gegard Mousasi is talking now... happy about the strikeforce fight.

    Jerry says Fedor will be fighting very soon.... stay tuned.
    4:54pm Call over.
  • Wet Bandit
    MVP
    • Apr 2009
    • 1746

    #2
    Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

    And by "We want to develop MMA" they really mean "We want to develop MMA by piggybacking on the success of the UFC, a promotion that has already developed MMA by taking tremendous risks and exhibiting a large amount of savvy, not by riding the coattails of a great fighter who for some reason feels indebted to them."

    But the latter quote, while technically much more accurate, isn't quite as snazzy. Plus, it'd make for a terrible title for one of snakerattle's threads.

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    • sven
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 6021

      #3
      Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

      M-1 is a joke. Vadim is a scumbag. He's basically holding Fedor's career back in an attempt to further his own.

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      • Stumbleweed
        Livin' the dream
        • Oct 2006
        • 6279

        #4
        Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

        What a joke these guys are. "We want to share the profit" -- bull****, you want to latch your dying promotion onto the most successful promotion in the world by far. Fedor's probably just scared of waking up with a horse head in his bed otherwise he'd dump these morons.
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        • Keith121212
          Banned
          • Jul 2004
          • 549

          #5
          Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

          Originally posted by sven
          M-1 is a joke. Vadim is a scumbag. He's basically holding Fedor's career back in an attempt to further his own.
          Agreed. Pathetic stuff.

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          • goh
            Banned
            • Aug 2003
            • 20755

            #6
            Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

            Having Fedor bankrupt Strikeforce won't help development at all.

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            • uedamasa
              Banned
              • Jul 2009
              • 28

              #7
              Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

              Originally posted by sven
              M-1 is a joke. Vadim is a scumbag. He's basically holding Fedor's career back in an attempt to further his own.

              how can Vadim be a Scumbag when a guy like Fedor sides with him?, Vadim has been around MMA since 1997 when Dana was still an aerobics instructor and didnt give a damn on MMA. Vadim's M-1 global has been developing fighters and the sport in the grass root levels and not doing this PPV money making stuffs like all these American ORGS are doing just for the sake of money. M-1 global's agenda eversince is to develop MMA worlwide and give exposure to Internationally unknown fighters... Vadim > Dana

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              • sven
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 6021

                #8
                Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

                Originally posted by uedamasa
                how can Vadim be a Scumbag when a guy like Fedor sides with him?, Vadim has been around MMA since 1997 when Dana was still an aerobics instructor and didnt give a damn on MMA. Vadim's M-1 global has been developing fighters and the sport in the grass root levels and not doing this PPV money making stuffs like all these American ORGS are doing just for the sake of money. M-1 global's agenda eversince is to develop MMA worlwide and give exposure to Internationally unknown fighters... Vadim > Dana
                Is that you Vadim?

                Siding with Vadim says more about Fedor's lack of character.

                They have to do it at a grassroots level because every time they try to move into the big time the organizations they are working with end up going out of business.

                Vadim is a leech who will suck the life out of any promotion that is stupid enough to work with him.

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                • uedamasa
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 28

                  #9
                  Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

                  Originally posted by sven
                  Is that you Vadim?

                  Siding with Vadim says more about Fedor's lack of character.

                  They have to do it at a grassroots level because every time they try to move into the big time the organizations they are working with end up going out of business.

                  Vadim is a leech who will suck the life out of any promotion that is stupid enough to work with him.

                  LOL M-1 is just Fedor's management with other Orgs he fought with. M-1 is another Org who is content not to be in a limelight because their agenda since 1997 was developing fighters internationally..it seems like you're talking about a guy who's dumb, remember Fedor is an intelligent guy who likes to play chess, chemistry class, plays the accordion and if you notice the fighting style of Fedor, he uses his intelligence well in the Ring. Fedor might be a shy type guy infront of these MMA media but the guy's is intelligent to fall to your so called scumbag in Vadim. Vadim and Fedor are friends and partners for a decade now so if indeed was being manipulated by Vadim he would kick him out as his manager but they remained friends and partners thus Vadim is good in Fedor's eyes unlike your boy Dana who has a reputation of being like Don King and has potty mouth

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                  • Wet Bandit
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1746

                    #10
                    Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

                    Originally posted by uedamasa
                    how can Vadim be a Scumbag when a guy like Fedor sides with him?, Vadim has been around MMA since 1997 when Dana was still an aerobics instructor and didnt give a damn on MMA. Vadim's M-1 global has been developing fighters and the sport in the grass root levels and not doing this PPV money making stuffs like all these American ORGS are doing just for the sake of money. M-1 global's agenda eversince is to develop MMA worlwide and give exposure to Internationally unknown fighters... Vadim > Dana
                    Seriously? The UFC is broadcast live now in dozens of countries. They've held events in Canada, the UK, Germany, Brazil, and Japan. They've got fighters on their roster from all over the world. Over half their current champions are international fighters. A guy like Georges St. Pierre is not only known worldwide, he's a freaking rock star in his home country.

                    It's like you have just bought hook, line, and sinker into M-1's spin. They're not doing some noble grass roots mission. They're a two-bit promotion incapable of putting on anything other than small-time cards that no one cares about.

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                    • Scoop_Brady
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                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1022

                      #11
                      Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

                      I'm willing to bet that uedamasa is snakerattle. Can we get a ip address check mods?
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                      • sven
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6021

                        #12
                        Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

                        Originally posted by Scoop_Brady
                        I'm willing to bet that uedamasa is snakerattle. Can we get a ip address check mods?
                        Gotta be.

                        He's already been banned over at MMAweekly and come back as over77. Its pretty easy to tell when every single thread over77 starts over there snakerattle makes here.

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                        • DTX3
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 13022

                          #13
                          Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

                          Originally posted by Scoop_Brady
                          I'm willing to bet that uedamasa is snakerattle. Can we get a ip address check mods?
                          I second this.
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                          • Wet Bandit
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1746

                            #14
                            Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.



                            M-1 is absolutely out of their ****ing minds. Check this out:

                            Going back to co-promotion, so you're saying co-promotion for M-1 means a 50/50 investment between the two parties?

                            Yeah, yeah. You sit down with the hard numbers. What's the fight purses? What's the venue? What's the advertising budget? Travel, food, throw it all in a pot, split it down the middle, and at the end of the event if the ink is black and there's a profit, split the profit, and if the ink is red, then just split the loss.
                            They want half of the UFC's profits for any event Fedor appears on. That's ridiculous. They say they're taking the risk and putting up half the money, but there's virtually no risk involved in any UFC card. They all turn a great profit. And they are essentially demanding that half of that profit be given to M-1.

                            But wait, there's more:

                            How has other miscellaneous topics that have been reportedly been an issue in the past, such as Sambo, the inclusion of other Red Devil (Fedor's camp) fighters, the amount of M-1 branding, played into negotiations?

                            You know all of that stuff is negotiable. If the UFC would have sat down, and conducted as a true co-promotion and say "ok we'll do half M-1 fighters, and half UFC fighters," all that can be worked out.
                            They want half of a UFC card to be given to M-1 fighters?! They've got Fedor, Mousasi, and...no one else.

                            They are just bat **** insane at this point. I can't imagine how anyone can defend them.

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                            • Stumbleweed
                              Livin' the dream
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 6279

                              #15
                              Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.

                              LOL, what a ridiculous situation.... the worst part is that the fans suffer in the end because we won't see the fight that makes complete sense in Brock/Fedor... Simply won't happen until he sucks it up and ditches these M-1 idiots or until Strikeforce and every other venue for Fedor goes under.
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