Fedor v. Rogers: Nov. 7 on CBS!

[aholbert32]

Re: Fedor v. Rogers: Nov. 7 on CBS!

Yea, right. Let's see either of these guys give up 50 to 100 lbs and win fights. How many former or current champs have these guys beat compared to Fedor? What does this man have to do to get respect from some of you all?

Do any of you think Lesnar could have done that to Rogers? Besides Lesnar i don't see anyone in the UFC with a chance against Fedor and i'll take Rogers over Lesnar any day. Granted, i think this was really the only good fight for Fedor at SF, but to beat this guy at his own game under the circumstances he did it is incredible.

I'll bite. Silva has beaten Griffin, Franklin, Henderson...so thats 3. GSP has beaten 4..Hughes, Sherk, Penn and Serra. Fedor has beaten 5.... Sylvia, Cro Cop, Arlovski, Coleman and Nog. I dont know what point you are trying to make. Everybody here says he is a top 3 fighter in the entire world of MMA. Thats a ton of respect.

You are nuts if you would take Rogers over Lesner. Lesner has 3 wins over top 15 HWs. Rogers has one. Rogers had one impressive win over a fighter with a notoriously weak chin. Stop trying to build up Rogers to make Fedor's win more impressive.

[TwelveozPlaya21]

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Who does he fight next? Werdum? Overeem? When does this BS end? Come on M1.

if werdum is the next top guy for fedor oh man that guy was awful last night.

[aholbert32]

Re: Fedor v. Rogers: Nov. 7 on CBS!

if werdum is the next top guy for fedor oh man that guy was awful last night.

I think he's next. Overeem refuses to fight in the States <cough>probably because we drug test in the States<cough>. Other than a Rogers rematch, Werdum is the only one left.</cough></cough>

[Pro Bowler]

Re: Fedor v. Rogers: Nov. 7 on CBS!

I'll bite. Silva has beaten Griffin, Franklin, Henderson...so thats 3. GSP has beaten 4..Hughes, Sherk, Penn and Serra. Fedor has beaten 5.... Sylvia, Cro Cop, Arlovski, Coleman and Nog. I dont know what point you are trying to make. Everybody here says he is a top 3 fighter in the entire world of MMA. Thats a ton of respect.

You are nuts if you would take Rogers over Lesner. Lesner has 3 wins over top 15 HWs. Rogers has one. Rogers had one impressive win over a fighter with a notoriously weak chin. Stop trying to build up Rogers to make Fedor's win more impressive.

Yea for every one person that calls him top 3 they say he's over-rated in the same sentence.

I'm sure Rogers could have rolled over the same competition that Lesnar has and probably done it without a defeat. An old man Couture, an over-rated Mir who has beaten no one besides another old man, and Hearing who shouldn't be fighting anymore, like Couture, is hardly worthy competition.

[aholbert32]

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Yea for every one person that calls him top 3 they say he's over-rated in the same sentence.

I'm sure Rogers could have rolled over the same competition that Lesnar has and probably done it without a defeat. An old man Couture, an over-rated Mir who has beaten no one besides another old man, and Hearing who shouldn't be fighting anymore, like Couture, is hardly worthy competition.

You say that with no evidence to back it up. Rogers has one Top 15 win. One and he got crushed last night. Come on man. Just stop it.

[Gibbz]

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...i'll take Rogers over Lesnar any day...

I decided to stop reading at this point.

[TheShizNo1]

Re: Fedor v. Rogers: Nov. 7 on CBS!

This is funny. I'm not not necessarily a fan of Fedor as much as his how he fights. I like how he seems to toy w/ his opponents and can pull that arm bar out of no where. BUT, it's amazing the obsession there is for this guy in this thread alone, it almost makes me want to root against him.

[ImReady77]

Re: Fedor v. Rogers: Nov. 7 on CBS!

I decided to stop reading at this point.

yea lol. I dont like Lesnar but he would destroy Rogers.

[mgoblue]

Re: Fedor v. Rogers: Nov. 7 on CBS!

There's no one for Fedor to fight. I find it hilarious how Fedor guys are trying to turn Werdum into some quality fighter worthy of testing Fedor. Fedor would have made more money in the UFC, he's either scared or M1 doesn't give a ish about Fedor. Either way, he's just in the minor leagues right now.

It's like seeing Ryan Howard play in single A baseball....woo, he can homer on a 18 year old kid who just got to the pros, yay!

[Pro Bowler]

Re: Fedor v. Rogers: Nov. 7 on CBS!

This is funny. I'm not not necessarily a fan of Fedor as much as his how he fights. I like how he seems to toy w/ his opponents and can pull that arm bar out of no where. BUT, it's amazing the obsession there is for this guy in this thread alone, it almost makes me want to root against him.

The crazy obsession comes from the guy's amazing talent to beat you anyway you can think of. He's just like A Silva, with different styles, and Fedor is giving and has given up more weight than Silva or GSP ever could. It's not only that, Fedor beats guys at their own game and doesn't have to resort to any style to get a win.

People claimming Lesnar would destroy Rogers is just laughable. Rogers hits harder and is a better striker than Lesnar and has decent defense on the ground. He did an excellent job on the ground against a guy that is twice as good as Mir. He doesn't have much offense, but neither does Lesnar. Lesnar only offense is to overwelhm people with his strength and lay on them and he wouldn't do this to Rogers, a guy that is every bit as strong without the suspected use of steriods that i have for Lesnar.

Lesnar beat Couture a guy who turns to jello everytime he get's hit nowdays that came back to the HW division from the LHW divison because of the lack of talent in the divison. He's 1 and 1 against Mir who has beaten no one besides an over the hill Nog and Tank effin Abbott. Hearing hasn't been any good in how long? People justifing Lesanr as a better fighter than Rogers because of the people he's faced is a ridiculous arguement.

There is a thing called match-ups in the fighting game and some don't seem to understand this. Lesnar has not fought ONE guy that matches up well with him and the 1 guy Mir, who half-way matches up with him, got a win. Lesnar had his chance to show me something against Carwin and he backs out because of the damn flu, come on. Rogers would also match-up VERY well with Lesnar if not more so than Carwin.

I'm done explainning it. Go ahead with the one line smart remarks that hold absolutely no validity.

[Wet Bandit]

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Rogers would also match-up VERY well with Lesnar...

With all due respect, and I mean this in a totally not-mean-spirited way, but you're making a fool of yourself. Rogers matches up well with Lesnar? Strikers with (relatively!) no takedown defense never match up well with great wrestlers. Did you completely miss Cain Velasquez dominating Kongo and Rothwell? And Lesnar is a bigger, stronger, more accomplished wrestler than Cain.

It's pretty surprising how far off the mark you are on this one. It's like you're honestly trying to convince us that the sky is not blue. That's how mind-boggling the idea that Rogers matches up with Lesnar in any way but 'really, really poorly' is.

[Beantown]

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People justifing Lesanr as a better fighter than Rogers because of the people he's faced is a ridiculous arguement.

And who has Rogers fought?

Arlovski is his only notable victory and in his first true test against a top-flight heavyweight he gets beaten.

Like it or not, Nog/Mir/Couture > Arlovski, Humphrey, Murphy, Thompson, etc.

You try and discredit Lesnar because he "hasn't fought anyone"...but who the hell has Rogers beaten that is anywhere close to having victories over Nog, Mir, and Couture? (PS...the answer is no one).

[Pro Bowler]

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With all due respect, and I mean this in a totally not-mean-spirited way, but you're making a fool of yourself. Rogers matches up well with Lesnar? Strikers with (relatively!) no takedown defense never match up well with great wrestlers. Did you completely miss Cain Velasquez dominating Kongo and Rothwell? And Lesnar is a bigger, stronger, more accomplished wrestler than Cain.

It's pretty surprising how far off the mark you are on this one. It's like you're honestly trying to convince us that the sky is not blue. That's how mind-boggling the idea that Rogers matches up with Lesnar in any way but 'really, really poorly' is.

Whatever Bandit? It's obvious you don't think all that much of Fedor and you're giving more credit to Lesnar than he actually deserves. Kongo is not the size of Rogers either. Rodgers outweighs him by almost 40 lbs. Like i said before it's about Match-ups and Kongo is not the same match-up as Rogers even though Kongo is the more well rounded fighter. You're totally over-looking size and strength which doesn't make much sense since you seem to be a Lesnar fan.

So what? Lesnar get's Rodgers on the ground. Like i said i doubt he could do any real damage to Rogers, but yea, if you want to see someone win a fight on nothing but takedowns i'll give you Lesnar in this scenario, but Lesnar starts out each fight acting like he can stand and if he did this for any amount of time with Rogers he'd lose.

Like i said before i'm done. I'm just repeating myself anyhow.

[Wet Bandit]

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Whatever Bandit? It's obvious you don't think all that much of Fedor...

Which is why I explicitly said that I think he's the third best pound-for-pound fighter in the world.

Kongo is not the size of Rogers either. Rodgers outweighs him by almost 40 lbs.

And what about Rothwell? He's a solid 265, and yet he was tossed around by the much-smaller Cain, and again, Lesnar is a bigger, stronger, more accomplished wrestler than Cain.

Not that the size and strength angle has much play, considering that Lesnar is undoubtedly the stronger wrestler, which is what we're talking about here. Even if you claim Rogers is as physically strong as Lesnar, which is tenuous at best, there's absolutely no denying that Lesnar knows how to use his strength better when it comes to wrestling.

You're totally over-looking size and strength which doesn't make much sense since you seem to be a Lesnar fan.

I actually don't particularly care for Lesnar. I think he'd give a Fedor a good fight, and I know that he's obviously better than Rogers, but I'm not really a fan.

But of course it seems like the ability to think objectively about fighters you don't care for is like freaking witchcraft to some people around here.

[judgejudy]

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You try and discredit Lesnar because he "hasn't fought anyone"...but who the hell has Rogers beaten that is anywhere close to having victories over Nog, Mir, and Couture? (PS...the answer is no one).

Lesnar hasn't fought Nog