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  • Phillmattic
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    • May 2003
    • 1071

    #391
    Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

    Originally posted by jmood88
    Anderson kept Sonnen in that fight by constantly trying to submit him instead of getting up and rocking him like he was doing at the beginning of every round.
    Sonnen is one of the best wrestlers in MMA, now way was Anderson going to keep getting up.
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    • XFactah416
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      • Oct 2008
      • 1708

      #392
      Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

      Originally posted by jeremym480
      I don't know. I would almost rather get beat my a lucky sub than get my *** handed to me for 4 and a half rounds.
      That wasn't a lucky sub.

      In fact, Fedor is the one who initiated the triangle again after getting out of it the first time. You could argue that he got "caught", but it sure as hell wasn't lucky. Werdum's jitz is world class.

      I'm speechless as to what I saw. I can't believe Chael snatched defeat from the jaws of victory again.. like he did against Filho.

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      • The Chef
        Moderator
        • Sep 2003
        • 13684

        #393
        Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

        Originally posted by jmood88
        Anderson kept Sonnen in that fight by constantly trying to submit him instead of getting up and rocking him like he was doing at the beginning of every round.
        You make it sound as if Silva could have gotten up but somehow chose not to. Anderson tried to spin out on numerous occasions, as well as use the fence to push off on, and none of it worked. Sonnen's wrestling was far and away superior to Silva's ability to stuff the takedown or get up after being taken down. I dont think youre giving Sonnen enough credit for doing exactly what he wanted to, unfortunately like someone pointed out before this fight, Sonnen leaves himself open for sub's with his aggressiveness and thats what happened tonight.
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        • jeremym480
          Speak it into existence
          • Oct 2008
          • 18198

          #394
          Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

          Originally posted by BlueNGold
          Well I just love the fact that after all that nonsense Chael was talking before the fight, like how he was going to "retire Anderson Silva", he has nothing to say now.

          You can't tell me that when someone talks trash to you and you prove them wrong that you don't love to see they have nothing to say afterwards.
          He lost then, showed good sportsmanship. I can't fault him for that.
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          • jmood88
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            • Jul 2003
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            #395
            Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

            Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
            Because Sonnen was keeping him on the ground.
            There were numerous chances for him to get up but he kept trying to get a submission and Sonnen took advantage of that to keep him down.
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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #396
              Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

              Originally posted by Epiffani
              How can they boo Silva after not only witnessing an entertaining fight, but after he pulled off one of the greatest comebacks in any sport EVER? I understand some people were pulling for the underdog towards the end, but that still isn't a reason to boo the opposing fighter especially after he showed what he was made of.
              I dont think he "showed what he was made of". He worked for 4 rounds to pull a triangle, armbar or kimura out. His standup was dissapointing the first 4 rounds. He showed pathetic takedown defense. He showed pathetic ground defense until the last 2 min of the fight.

              I was calling GSP the pound for pound #1 for months and I think this fight proved it.

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              • BlueNGold
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                • Aug 2009
                • 21817

                #397
                Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                Originally posted by Deadeye15
                I agree with all your points. Silva clearly DOES have a really good chin. He also showed something he in my opinion hasn't shown before and thats that he has top notch cardio as well.

                My point is, if he's the pound for pound best he wouldn't have gotten dominated for 4 and 1/2 rounds in the first place.
                IDK, maybe I'm wrong but I just feel that not many fighters would've been able to endure what Silva did and still be able to pull out the win. That was unbelievable.

                Another thing I forgot to mention was that Anderson must have some kind of alien skin or something because it didn't look like he really got cut even though Chael pounded him non-stop. Maybe it was my low quality feed though.
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                • Gibbz
                  All Star
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 8240

                  #398
                  Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                  Originally posted by jeremym480
                  I don't know. I would almost rather get beat my a lucky sub than get my *** handed to me for 4 and a half rounds.
                  That makes a lot of sense.

                  I can honestly say I'd rather show heart and remain the champ than lose in a minute in a #1 contender's fight. Don't know why you would want otherwise.

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                  • JerseySuave4
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 5152

                    #399
                    Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                    What a card and what a main event. I thought it was over for Silva but you knew he had plenty of energy just by the way he came out each round ready to strike. Even with Sonnen's wrestling and landing the shots he was Chael was using a lot of energy himself and was getting caught with hard elbows and strikes every now and then from Anderson. Chael's shots were flush while Anderson's were sharp which is why Chael's face looked banged up and Anderson was ok.

                    The whole fight i was yelling for Anderson to use rubber guard and pop a triangle, Chael was open for it the whole fight. But finally he got it in and he got it tight. Chael def tapped and that was one of the best comebacks in a fight you could have.

                    We def saw that the formula to beat Silva is being a good wrestler and getting Silva on his back. But you always have to be careful for those submissions. But even though Chael caught Silva with some shots, you aren't going to beat him standing, he is just too dynamic and will eventually catch you which he did a few times to Chael.

                    Chael def earned my respect, i didnt like him with all the trash talk but to come that close to beating Anderson, he def earns respect because he mostly backed it up. But Anderson is the best because all it takes is a split second and an opening and he's got you. He is solid in just about every aspect so is going to take someone that can sustain for all 5 rounds, Chael looked like he started to gas out which led to Anderson getting an opening.

                    Great card tonight, Big Country vs Dos Santos was nuts, glad to see the Carpenter win as well as Hughes. I would have like to have seen Thiago come back with a win but he essentially lost a wrestling match to Fitch.

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                    • HMMurdock311
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                      • Sep 2003
                      • 246

                      #400
                      Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                      Originally posted by jeremym480
                      He lost then, showed good sportsmanship. I can't fault him for that.
                      Agreed. I can't understand why he would talk when he knew he lost.
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                      • aholbert32
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #401
                        Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                        Originally posted by jmood88
                        There were numerous chances for him to get up but he kept trying to get a submission and Sonnen took advantage of that to keep him down.
                        Mood I'm sorry but you are wrong about that. I didnt see many chances for Anderson to get up. His only shot was to go for submission.

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                        • jeremym480
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 18198

                          #402
                          Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                          Originally posted by XFactah416
                          That wasn't a lucky sub.

                          In fact, Fedor is the one who initiated the triangle again after getting out of it the first time. You could argue that he got "caught", but it sure as hell wasn't lucky. Werdum's jitz is world class.

                          I'm speechless as to what I saw. I can't believe Chael snatched defeat from the jaws of victory again.. like he did against Filho.
                          Yeah, I take that back. I was still frustrated about the loss. I don't thing I've ever been as upset about someone that I'm not really a fan losing.
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                          • Bornindamecca
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                            • Jul 2007
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                            #403
                            Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                            I believe Silva was hurt. Guys tend not to lie when they talk about doctor's recommended.

                            Either way, that was a sick, sick fight. The whole card was great. Aside from the Fitch Grind(tm), I was entertained for all of the fights I saw. I came in on the Roy Nelson fight, but heard there was action before that as well.
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                            • jmood88
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                              • Jul 2003
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                              #404
                              Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                              Originally posted by aholbert32
                              Mood I'm sorry but you are wrong about that. I didnt see many chances for Anderson to get up. His only shot was to go for submission.
                              Well I'll just agree to disagree.
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                              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                              • LingeringRegime
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 17089

                                #405
                                Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                                I was amazed at Struve's comeback. That was a bloodbath.

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