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  • goh
    Banned
    • Aug 2003
    • 20755

    #121
    Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

    Good show.

    I'm more curious about what the heck this was though...

    Official scores: 30-27, 27-30 and 29-28 for Takeya Mizugaki, winner by split decision.

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    • Beantown
      #DoYourJob
      • Feb 2005
      • 31523

      #122
      Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      As for the person who said it will be Diego/Shields. Thats not likely at all. Diego would be coming off a win and Jake would be coming off a loss. The UFC rarely makes fights like that. If Shields wins the belt it will probably be an immediate GSP rematch.
      I think he more meant a Diego/Shields match being built up for a vacant title if GSP wins and moves up for the Silva fight and then a run at MW.


      And Diego, apparently, landed 14 of 17 "power punches" in the 3rd round, which probably helped a bit in that round scoring.

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      • XFactah416
        MVP
        • Oct 2008
        • 1708

        #123
        Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

        This decision is terrible yet at the exact same time understandable.

        Diego appears to be "busy" winging all of those punches.. except those punches hit nothing but air 90% of the time. He essentially took the Leonard Garcia route to victory, which is take a ton of punishment and keep going forward.

        Even though I feel that Kampmann won 29-28, I already knew that Diego was winning 29-28 despite Diego's right eye being closed shut and his left eye being close to shut as well. It's not terribly inconceivable to think that Diego won the 2nd round and with Diego "appearing" to be busy as hell.. well, there you have it. I'm sorry Hitman. You deserve better.

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        • The Chef
          Moderator
          • Sep 2003
          • 13684

          #124
          Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

          Originally posted by allBthere
          penn edgar one wasn't scored that way.... the significant strikes were landed by kampmann, you think diego's face lookes like it went through a garbage compactor because of slaps?? he even sounded half-dead in the interview.

          MORE DAMAGE WAS DONE BY MARTIN -
          But the fight isnt judged as a whole, its judged by round. Kampmann did all his damage in round 1, Diego was the aggressor for the majority of round 2 and 3. A 10-8 round is like round 3 between Fitch/Penn when Penn did absolutely nothing the entire round, round 1 tonight wasnt that lopsided so it didnt deserve a 10-8. Im not saying this was a lop sided win for Diego, Im only saying that I can see why either guy could have won that fight.
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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #125
            Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

            Originally posted by Beantown
            I think he more meant a Diego/Shields match being built up for a vacant title if GSP wins and moves up for the Silva fight and then a run at MW.
            That will be Penn/Fitch 2. I seriously doubt that the UFC would give Shields a second title shot in a row if he loses to GSP.

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            • The Chef
              Moderator
              • Sep 2003
              • 13684

              #126
              Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

              Originally posted by goh
              Good show.

              I'm more curious about what the heck this was though...

              Official scores: 30-27, 27-30 and 29-28 for Takeya Mizugaki, winner by split decision.
              Yeah, thats some crazy scoring. How the hell does one judge see it 30-27 one way and another sees it 30-27 the other?
              http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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              • Beantown
                #DoYourJob
                • Feb 2005
                • 31523

                #127
                Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                That will be Penn/Fitch 2. I seriously doubt that the UFC would give Shields a second title shot in a row if he loses to GSP.
                Very true.

                And Diego is on his way to the hospital. Has to be the most beaten-up winner in UFC history.

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                • Sandman42
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 15186

                  #128
                  Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

                  Originally posted by XFactah416
                  This decision is terrible yet at the exact same time understandable.

                  Diego appears to be "busy" winging all of those punches.. except those punches hit nothing but air 90% of the time. He essentially took the Leonard Garcia route to victory, which is take a ton of punishment and keep going forward.

                  Even though I feel that Kampmann won 29-28, I already knew that Diego was winning 29-28 despite Diego's right eye being closed shut and his left eye being close to shut as well. It's not terribly inconceivable to think that Diego won the 2nd round and with Diego "appearing" to be busy as hell.. well, there you have it. I'm sorry Hitman. You deserve better.
                  That's what pisses me off the most. I knew going into that decision that Diego would win because judges love giving fighters points for winging wild 5-7 flurries at the air after getting punched square in the face.

                  Maybe Diego can go down to 155 and Leonard Garcia can move up so they can fight and decimate the air that is between them.
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                  • goh
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 20755

                    #129
                    Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

                    Originally posted by Beantown
                    Very true.

                    And Diego is on his way to the hospital. Has to be the most beaten-up winner in UFC history.
                    Still think Matt Hamill has that one.

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                    • allBthere
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 5847

                      #130
                      Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

                      Originally posted by The Chef
                      But the fight isnt judged as a whole, its judged by round. Kampmann did all his damage in round 1, Diego was the aggressor for the majority of round 2 and 3. A 10-8 round is like round 3 between Fitch/Penn when Penn did absolutely nothing the entire round, round 1 tonight wasnt that lopsided so it didnt deserve a 10-8. Im not saying this was a lop sided win for Diego, Im only saying that I can see why either guy could have won that fight.
                      it's as if Martin is penalized for throwing crisp straight shots instead of winging his punches. I completely diagree with all the damage being done in round one...in the third round the striaght he damaged his hand on really hurt diego and REALLY effed up his left cheek. Every round Sanchez looked worse and worse and was constantly being hit hard...even in the flurry that rocked kampmann, he landed shots of his own one really hard left hook in particular.

                      Even if you want to give diego extra points for wide flashy punches, the sheer number he was outlanded has to give martin an edge...as someone pointed out kampmann outlanded him not just by a few shots, but nearly tripled the landed number. I would love to see the overall thrown/landed. And don't forget those knees landed throughout.

                      If I had to guess martin outlanded 3-1 at least over the whole fight
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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #131
                        Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

                        Originally posted by The Chef
                        Yeah, thats some crazy scoring. How the hell does one judge see it 30-27 one way and another sees it 30-27 the other?
                        Now THAT is crazy judging.

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                        • XFactah416
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1708

                          #132
                          Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

                          Originally posted by allBthere
                          it's as if Martin is penalized for throwing crisp straight shots instead of winging his punches. I completely diagree with all the damage being done in round one...in the third round the striaght he damaged his hand on really hurt diego and REALLY effed up his left cheek. Every round Sanchez looked worse and worse and was constantly being hit hard...even in the flurry that rocked kampmann, he landed shots of his own one really hard left hook in particular.

                          Even if you want to give diego extra points for wide flashy punches, the sheer number he was outlanded has to give martin an edge...as someone pointed out kampmann outlanded him not just by a few shots, but nearly tripled the landed number. I would love to see the overall thrown/landed. And don't forget those knees landed throughout.

                          If I had to guess martin outlanded 3-1 at least over the whole fight
                          Kampmann didn't outland Diego 3-1. 97-45 though he did outland Diego.

                          Kampmann had 50 power shots to Diego's 39 power shots.

                          Diego was 1-15 on takedowns too.

                          Agreed though. Kampmann "lost" tonight because he wasn't running forward hitting air. He was technically countering Diego all day but the judges don't realize it. Once again, I'm sorry Hitman. You deserve better.

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                          • VanCitySportsGuy
                            NYG_Meth
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 9351

                            #133
                            Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

                            Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
                            I'm on a horrible MMA gambling losing streak but I have a Sanchez, Munoz, and Weidman parlay. Don't copy my parlay unless you want to lose money, lol.
                            Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!!!

                            I was surpised at how the crowd reacted. I had the fight 29-28 for Sanchez. Hitman won Round 1 but Sanchez won Rounds 2 and 3. Sanchez was clearly pushing the pace in the fight. Kampmann has nobody to blame but himself. When it's a close fight and you know there's 10 seconds left in the round, you should just "go for it" like Sanchez. Just like in the Shields fight, he wasn't aggressive enough.

                            I looked at the stats at FightMetric and they give the nod to Kampmann. This is just like Teixeria having a negative 2010 UZR over at fangraphs. In both cases, I trust my own eyes more than the stats.

                            Either way it was a slugfest and it was good to hear White upped the bonus moneyto $60,000 each. This was the 2nd best fight in the UFC this year behind Edgar/Maynard.

                            I want to see Sanchez fight Condit next.

                            All 3 Versus cards have been really good.

                            On a unrelated note, lol at the fact the arena is called the "KFC Yum! Center".

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                            • cooldude
                              Please don't go.
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 4091

                              #134
                              Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

                              Once again, MMA judging is atrocious.

                              Twice now that Kampmann got screwed(in my eyes)

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                              • DJ
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 17756

                                #135
                                Re: UFC on Versus 3 - March 3rd

                                Originally posted by Beantown
                                Very true.

                                And Diego is on his way to the hospital. Has to be the most beaten-up winner in UFC history.
                                I don't know, I think Struve may have him beat.
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