UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

Worse matchup for Diaz? If so, how is that

If anything, GSP seems like the ideal matchup nightmare for Diaz. Diaz lures people into slugfests. GSP aint about that.

I'm equally as excited for Diaz Penn as Diaz GSP. I just think this whole thing is just silly. Should have been avoided. But Dana is right for setting a precedent.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

See this is the BS I am talking about with Dana White. He don't care Nick Diaz missed the pressers, he just don't like Diaz and it would make him vomit if Diaz was champ in the UFC.

I mean what kind of punishment is that you get pulled from the title but yet still get to fight on the same card ? With basically in a co-main event fight ?

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

You have to be kidding me. So he gets taken out of the main, then put in the co-main :o
Tbh I think this is a even worse matchup for him though.

Worse match up ? Get real......BJ Penn likes to stand and bang. However Diaz has the height and reach advantage of him.

This is going to be nothing but a boxing match. I doubt it either one will look to take it to the ground because both guys like to stand and bang.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

See this is the BS I am talking about with Dana White. He don't care Nick Diaz missed the pressers, he just don't like Diaz and it would make him vomit if Diaz was champ in the UFC.

I mean what kind of punishment is that you get pulled from the title but yet still get to fight on the same card ? With basically in a co-main event fight ?

Come on man.

Not getting a title shot is a severe punishment. Fight fans still want to see Diaz on the card, so Dana is trying to please everyone. Diaz deserved to get punished. Now do I think his anxiety would have led him to not come to the fight? No.

Dana White made so many efforts to get Nick to Vegas and Toronto. It's just nonsense IMO to say Dana doesn't like Nick, therefore no title shot.

He gave him two chances. When you don't pick up your phone and you don't answer your own trainer's phone knowing you have an obligation to be somewhere... that's on you. If he had just simply made it to Vegas it would have been swept under the rug. And that's already unfair to GSP since he went to both media obligations.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

I don't even think Diaz deserves to be on the card at all. He had his chance for a HUGE payday... and instead, he wants to be an amateur instead of a professional.... and pisses it away.

Dana should let him sit this card, and perhaps even the next card out... let him sit and think about it... and maybe he won't take it so lightly the next time.

Politics man.......that is all it was. Diaz was more of a threat to beat GSP then Condit would ever be. And I doubt Dana wanted GSP losing on his way to leaving that division.

I gurantee this will be GSP last fight in the welterweight division. After this he will move up to middleweight. Just my theory anyway.

This has all the makings of a run up to Silva vs GSP for super bowl weekend.

[GiantYankee]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

See this is the BS I am talking about with Dana White. He don't care Nick Diaz missed the pressers, he just don't like Diaz and it would make him vomit if Diaz was champ in the UFC.

I mean what kind of punishment is that you get pulled from the title but yet still get to fight on the same card ? With basically in a co-main event fight ?

I do agree that Diaz should have been pulled from the card but I don't think Dana is holding a grudge. He has shown that he could put grudges behind him (Tito, Randy). I honestly feel that Dana is all about putting on the best fights for the fans. Just my 2cents.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

I do agree that Diaz should have been pulled from the card but I don't think Dana is holding a grudge. He has shown that he could put grudges behind him (Tito, Randy). I honestly feel that Dana is all about putting on the best fights for the fans. Just my 2cents.

Dana is about the big picture. He knows MMA is one of the hottest things out right now, and he knows better than to let his employees run afoul. He knows there's a stable of young, hungry, professional guys who will do the necessary things to move the sport forward and to legitimacy.

Having Diaz act up like this is OK for any other MMA promotion, but not the UFC brand. He wants to ensure the UFC isn't looked at as a rinky dink org that can't get their fighters to even show up to media events.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

I'm excited to see Penn vs Diaz. My only concern is if BJ wins does he become the #1 contender. I'm not interested in seeing GSP fight Penn again. If Nick wins does he get GSP next? I don't know if Dana would do it.

GDP would either get Fitch or vacate the belt and move up.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

See this is the BS I am talking about with Dana White. He don't care Nick Diaz missed the pressers, he just don't like Diaz and it would make him vomit if Diaz was champ in the UFC.

I mean what kind of punishment is that you get pulled from the title but yet still get to fight on the same card ? With basically in a co-main event fight ?

1) Diaz no longer gets PPV money for being the main event and that is HUGE. Its basically what you suggested earlier today by saying Dana should have cut his pay.

2) Diaz no longer gets a shot at the belt.

3) Saying Dana doesn't want him to be champ is just silly. Why would he sign him then? People weren't going nuts about Diaz being in SF and not the UFC. He could have easily left him in SF and given the shot to Condit at the beginning.

You are coming off like a big Diaz homer.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

Dana is about the big picture. He knows MMA is one of the hottest things out right now, and he knows better than to let his employees run afoul. He knows there's a stable of young, hungry, professional guys who will do the necessary things to move the sport forward and to legitimacy.

Having Diaz act up like this is OK for any other MMA promotion, but not the UFC brand. He wants to ensure the UFC isn't looked at as a rinky dink org that can't get their fighters to even show up to media events.

Great Post. Just because Coker let Diaz get away with that **** in SF doesn't mean Dana has too. Coker refused to strip him of the belt after he refused to take a drug test before the fight and forced a cancellation of a title fight. You give Diaz an inch and he will take a mile.

[Sandman42]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

If Dana hated Diaz that much, he would have never given him a title shot in the first place.

That simple. There's no crazy conspiracy theories here.

[GiantYankee]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

Dana is about the big picture. He knows MMA is one of the hottest things out right now, and he knows better than to let his employees run afoul. He knows there's a stable of young, hungry, professional guys who will do the necessary things to move the sport forward and to legitimacy.

Having Diaz act up like this is OK for any other MMA promotion, but not the UFC brand. He wants to ensure the UFC isn't looked at as a rinky dink org that can't get their fighters to even show up to media events.

Perfectly stated.

GDP would either get Fitch or vacate the belt and move up.

Fitch? Give me GSP/Penn III lol

[jeremym480]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Condit

If Dana hated Diaz that much, he would have never given him a title shot in the first place.

That simple. There's no crazy conspiracy theories here.

Plus, Dana's not the one who decided to duck out on his obligations and dodge his employer. I honestly, don't see how anyone could turn this around on Dana. If Diaz does what he's supposed to he's got his title shot and his pay day. Instead he continues to be a moron. What else is new?

In my opinion he doesn't even deserve a Co-Main Event right now. Heck, I'd give him a fight against a guy like Ebersole or Antony Johnson, etc. first. I know that's probably not realistic so, here's something a little better...
He signed a four fight contract so, he can fight two contenders like Diego Sanchez (part 2), Koscheck, Penn, Fitch or even his buddy Jake Shields before he get's a shot at the title. If he beats both of those guys and does everything that he's supposed to do (media wise and keeping his nose clean) then, I'd think about giving him his shot.

[DJ]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

I don't get the UFC's thought process in taking Diaz off of the main event and then 24 hours later, putting him in the co-main event on the same card?

Diaz needs help, obviously. As someone that still struggles with anxiety issues, I can sympathize with Diaz to a point, but heck, even if he was in the grips of a severe anxiety attack, he still could've been a professional, called Dana and explained what was going on. You can't just dip out on your responsibilities without telling anyone what is going on with you.

Look at what happened to Karo; he had anxiety issues a couple of years ago. He never really got the proper help he needed for the issue and he became a huge headache for Dana, forcing White to fire him, in part because of his being dishonest about what was going on with him medically.

I'm sure that weighed on Dana when he made the decision to move Diaz out of the main event; he didn't want to run into a situation (not saying this would happen) where Diaz freaks out the day before the fight and pulls out.

Diaz needs to seek help for his anxiety (and other issues), but I don't know if that will happen. The UFC, by not making him sit out (yes, he's losing money and a title shot), isn't being proactive enough with this situation, either.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

It's actually simple, fans love Diaz, and they still wanted to see him make his debut in the UFC. So it makes perfect sense to put him back on the card but not for the title [as punishment] and against someone like BJ.

Dana does as much as possible to please the fans, and I applaud him for still keeping Diaz around and not letting his ego get out of control.