UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

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  • DJ
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2003
    • 17756

    #391
    Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    And boom goes the dynamite, Diaz will be GSP's next opponent.

    Apparently GSP is very very upset and Dana's never seen him like this before.

    This is awesome news.

    It's better for GSP anyway so he can fully heal his knee.
    Let's just hope Diaz shows up for the press conferences this time, because this is the fight we should've seen tonight.

    Sucks for Condit but I'm sure the UFC will take care of him (at least I hope so) for leaving him flapping in the breeze.
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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #392
      Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      I wouldn't say lucked. He was the #3 WW in the UFC at the time he received the shot. Diaz ****ed up his shot and Fitch aint getting a shot anytime soon. He was the next in line.
      How was it not lucky?

      Carlos is in the same exact position as he was before Nick pissed the bed.

      I'm not doubting his #3 status or anything like that. Fact is he was gonna fight BJ to see about a #1 contender. Now instead of BJ he's gonna get Fitch most likely or Ellenberger.

      Like I said, yes it does suck for him that he trained in essence for no reason. But other than that he probably did get compensated and now he can still fight for a title shot.

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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #393
        Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

        Wth is wrong with Cesar Gracie? I honestly feel like slapping the crap out of him. I thought he was the opposite of how he actually is lol

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        • Sandman42
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2004
          • 15186

          #394
          Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

          He'll probably fight Ellenberger since Fitch is fighting Hendricks at the end of this year.
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          • VanCitySportsGuy
            NYG_Meth
            • Feb 2003
            • 9351

            #395
            Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

            Random Thoughts:

            - I don't believe Penn is retiring. Once he gets time to clear his head I'm sure he doesn't want to go out like this. This fight is a perfect example of why I don't buy into the pre-fight camp stuff. BJ said he really focused on his cardio for this fight and he looked gassed midway throug the 2nd round. Diaz proved tonight he is a legit title contender. As great as Diaz was in Strikeforce, you could argue he never beat a Top 10 guy. All his crazy antics make him standout.

            - With GSP vs. Diaz and Condit vs. Ellenberger (most likely), I'm guessing we won't see Sonnen vs Silva on the same card. I'm glad to hear GSP is pissed. I have no doubt Diaz will try to push the pace against GSP.

            - The co-main event was terrible. I expected fireworks.

            - I think Cro Cop is actually going to retire. This was the last fight on his contract and the UFC isn't going re-up him. He's a legend but his run in the UFC wasn't good.

            - Cowboy needs to get over his beef with Phan. He's 2 fights away from a title shot and perhaps even only 1 fight if he faces Melendez next. I couldn't believe he easy he made it look againt Siver. I wish all top fighters were as active as him. If you're healthy, there's no reason why you shouldn't be fighting at least once every 3 or 4 months.

            - I know the UFC doesn't cut guys after picking up a W but Vera looked pretty bad. You could tell he was fighting safe and just wanted the W to continue his UFC career.

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            • LingeringRegime
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2007
              • 17089

              #396
              Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

              Nick Diaz is one scary dude.

              Him fighting BJ first is a great business move. Now everyone will be buying the Diaz/GSP PPV.
              Last edited by LingeringRegime; 10-30-2011, 06:18 AM.

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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #397
                Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

                Nick is great at what he does, but he takes way too much damage with his style.

                Imagine what GSP's jab is gonna do to Nick's eye(s)? Orbital bones could be broken if Nick doesn't defend more. GSP loves to jab and use the straight, look at Nick's face right now. His face always looks like that after he fights even in a win. GSP gonna do a lot of damage if he doesn't shore that up.

                Other guys like Kos, Fitch I would actually favor them too over Nick, although Nick does have an active guard so that's what saves him since he can be taken down. BJ Penn was just a perfect matchup for Nick, as were pretty much all of Nick's past opponents in SF. Dudes who would stand and bang and exchange are tailor made for Nick.

                Condit and Ellenberger, whew. Between these two, Rumble and Diaz, the WW division all of a sudden is pretty darn exciting.

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                • WTF
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 20274

                  #398
                  Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

                  That's exactly what I was eluding to. He fought with no guard. If you let your 6" wingspan advantage that he had over Penn go, and still get your face busted up, what is GSP going to do to him. I'm not saying he'll fight the same style, but from what I've seen, that is Diaz's style.

                  Last night, GSP would have jabbed and and threw the straight, and I don't think it would have went to 3 honestly.
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                  • LingeringRegime
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 17089

                    #399
                    Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

                    You guys make it sound like Penn has no stand up game. Sure, he doesn't have that jab, but Penn has some heavy hands. I don't know if GSP's jab can even penetrate that reach of Diaz. Diaz is like a pro boxer trapped in the Octagon. I don't think he will want to stand up with Diaz. This isn't Koscheck he is fighting.

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                    • WTF
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20274

                      #400
                      Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

                      If his 6" reach advantage didn't stop Penn from battering that face of his, why would it stop GSP's? I'm not saying it's 100% going to happen, but I didn't see anything from him last night. Penn's conditioning sucked, which lead him to lose his guard, and Diaz squared away on him. Penn has a 58-59" Reach, Diaz was at 65", which is right where GSP comes in.

                      Penn was able to get in and land several good blows, as seen by Diaz's face...
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                      • LingeringRegime
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 17089

                        #401
                        Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

                        Diaz face always looks like that at the end of the night though. Obviously, he needs to fight more disciplined against GSP, but I am very impressed on how he picked apart Penn. Maybe some of that can be attributed to Penn's conditioning, but I think more should be credited to the boxing of Diaz, just my opinion.

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #402
                          Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

                          Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
                          You guys make it sound like Penn has no stand up game. Sure, he doesn't have that jab, but Penn has some heavy hands. I don't know if GSP's jab can even penetrate that reach of Diaz. Diaz is like a pro boxer trapped in the Octagon. I don't think he will want to stand up with Diaz. This isn't Koscheck he is fighting.
                          Would it be a 6' inch reach advantage against GSP? I don't even think the stand ups gonna be the factor. I see no reason why GSP won't consistently take Nick down. In his recent career, Diaz hasn't fought a person close to GSP when it comes t wrestling. Diaz looked great tonight but when you fight the GSPs, Koschecks and Fitchs its a whole different ballgame.

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                          • LingeringRegime
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 17089

                            #403
                            Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

                            Yeah, GSP has the advantage on the ground. Not debating that at all. Diaz needs to be sprawling his *** off in training camp.

                            By the way, here is some highlights from the Post Fight Presser...

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                            Last edited by LingeringRegime; 10-30-2011, 11:05 AM.

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                            • st67
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 547

                              #404
                              Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

                              I just finished watching the whole conference - and Diaz has some issues.

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                              • CaptainZombie
                                Brains
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 37851

                                #405
                                Re: UFC 137: Diaz v. Penn - Oct 29

                                Originally posted by MizzouBravesFan
                                I don't know how but I'm finding myself climbing aboard the Nick Diaz bandwagon...love how he fights.

                                He had me rolling after the fight..."WHERE YOU AT GEORGE?!?!?" Hahaha. Also called him a mf'er right after the decision was read.

                                Dana better make that fight next....
                                Diaz has a rather unique way of fighting and surprising how he can take some battering the way he does and still win. In SF it was interesting watching his fights, granted he did fight some guys that weren't the greatest but he also went against some guys that could fight.

                                Diaz vs. GSP should be a good fight, but Diaz needs to work on not taking as many hits that he does trying to wear down his opponents.
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