UFC Undisputed 3 - Alpha Server Test

[aholbert32]

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Pros:

- Stand up feels better. Strikes aren't as fast as 2010 and when someone gets rocked you have a better chance of defending yourself. You can now shoot for a takedown, sway or just protect yourself. I was rocked 4 times in one fight and made it to to the third.

- Movement matters, If you move straight back, you will get hit even if you have your guard up. I've made more people miss circling than blocking punches.

- Submission game isn't as bad as I thought. Its very similar to the choke submission game in EA MMA. They could've done a better job with the actual screen (make it smaller) but its not bad at all.

- I love finish the fight. No more guys getting a KO and then walking away. You can choose to walk away or punch until the ref pulls you off.

- Love the entrances even though there is no music in the Alpha. Looks just like a real UFC walkout.

- Love the fact that you can share CAFs now. I spent hours with 2010 on MMA-CAF.com trying to create all of the fighters that the game is missing. This year, I'll just download missing fighters like the Korean Zombie and John Hathaway.

- Added a ton of new animations for the CAF victory scenes and introductions. You can decide who your CAF's trainer is going to be. Added more fighter AI and a few new fighter stances.

- I went to touch gloves with my opponent and he hit me with a flying knee. The crowd started to chant "Bull****".

Cons:

-On Normal settings, guys can just fire power shots with no real stamina loss. What most guys are doing is rushing you at the start of the round and firing bombs. That will change if you set it to Simulation settings though.

- Too easy to get off the ground. I've taken down people several times and if I don't transition immediately, they will kick me off of them. At this setting its kind of hard to do "lay and pray". Reversals are also too easy at Normal settings.

- Looking at the CAF menu, it looks like the game hasn't added many new names that Buffer or the announcers will say. Looks like it will be a lot of "The Wolf" and "Magic"

- Players have already learned how to spam something. I fought one guy who spammed the low block from a distance. That made it so I couldn't kick or go for a takedown from a distance and when he got close he would start throwing strikes. It made it impossible to fight from a distance.

- You have to learn how to sway. This isn't really a con but you will get crushed if you don't learn how to on the ground.

In the end, I pretty happy. Most of the cons are online related issues and I don't play much online. Its enough of an improvement from 2010 to justify my preorder.

[nyj721]

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Can you play on the Sim setting?

[aholbert32]

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Can you play on the Sim setting?

Nope. Only can play as a Welterweight with normal settings.

[wyrm187]

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thanks for the preview . . .sounds much improved over 10. I felt like 10 was a step back even though I still liked it - I have high expectations for this one

[ZeeAyKay]

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Can you play on the Sim setting?

Actually you can. You have to do player match instead of ranked, and either create a custom match with sim settings or look for one.

[aholbert32]

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Actually you can. You have to do player match instead of ranked, and either create a custom match with sim settings or look for one.

Really? I'm gonna have to try that out.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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I must say, the back clinch is AWESOME. Catches people off guard. Leg kicks actually matter. Jabs don't seem to be that effective so far as they said it would be in disrupting people punches.

Haven't gotten too many matches because every time people learn they can't spam the punch button they quit.

Presentation is much improved though.

Don't care for the sub system, but then again every match I been in nobody ever goes for a submission, so unless I go for one, there won't be one.

Butter fly guard is still cosmetic ONLY. Which is a bummer.

Haven't seen any new sweeps or throws yet.

[jeremym480]

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So with the new sharing of CAF's do you guys know if you can copy their attributes as well?

I don't want to have to play through career mode just to build up my CAF's skills.

[aholbert32]

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So with the new sharing of CAF's do you guys know if you can copy their attributes as well?

I don't want to have to play through career mode just to build up my CAF's skills.

Thats the big question. CAF's still have a limit on what how many points you get.

[wyrm187]

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any comments on sim setting? is it realistic?

[aholbert32]

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Simulation mode is ****ing great.

Just had a damn 5 rnd war. Rnd 1, he basically owned me in the stand up but I was able to get him to the ground and caused a little damage. Rnd 2: I dominated on the ground and almost finished him with ground and pound from half guard. With about 30 seconds left, he reversed me, put me in a stunned state with punches and i was saved by the bell. Round 3 was a grappling fest. Round 4 I almost finished him with a head kick but he survived. He also caught me with a right hand but I fought my way out of a stunned state. He knocked me out in round 5 with a right hook.

Stamina really matters with simulation mode. At the end of the fight he had 43% and I had 52%. We were both gasping for air on out stools before end 5. This alone has my really excited about this game.

[wyrm187]

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wow! thanks man - that has me really optimistic! One of the comments above said that the jab didn't matter as much as the devs said it was - any comments on that? can they walk right through the jab like last year or does it really stop hooks and power punches?

[aholbert32]

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He's right about the jabs right now especially in default mode. In default, fighter can continuously through heavy strikes without losing any stamina. One of the reasons for this could be that all of the CAF's in the alpha have the same reach, so you cant really use length as an advantage.

Its slightly different in simulation mode. The jab doesnt work as well as it should but if you have someone constantly throwing bombs, he will eventually gas out. That makes his heavy strikes less effective and his punches slower. You can use light strikes to punish a gassed out fighter.

One last thing: I'm not sure that I want jabs to automatically stop power shots. If someone combines jabs and movement, thats fine. But plenty of fighters counter jabs with power hooks if the fighter who threw the jab just stands there.

[Phobia]

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Aholbert thanks so much for the insight into the new game. How much of a step up improvement over 2010 do you feel like it will be? Also do you feel like online will be fun to play or will it be just another spam/glitch/exploit fest that 2010 was?

[aholbert32]

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Aholbert thanks so much for the insight into the new game. How much of a step up improvement over 2010 do you feel like it will be? Also do you feel like online will be fun to play or will it be just another spam/glitch/exploit fest that 2010 was?

Its what 2010 shouldve been.

I think you guys will absolutely hate the game at default. Default is geared for people who arent MMA fans and who just want to see knockouts. On default, the striking is too fast and missed punches dont take much stamina. So what you will see is people actually running toward you at the start of the round and throwing bombs. Now if you can sway and block, you can survive. If not, you will get KO'd quickly. Takedowns and defensive transitions almost seem to easy on default. In order to ignore the swarm, I would immediately takedown people but they would kick me off immediately in full guard. My fear is that the demo will be default only and people will hate it and think it represents the game.

On simulation mode, its much different. I fought 7 times yesterday in this mode. 2 went to decision (one was a split decision that I'll talk about later), 1 went to a 5th round, 1 was a submission and 3 were KOs in the second or third round. That's variety. In some of those fights, I spent entire rounds on the ground.

The ground game is MUCH more strategic this year. You have to plan out every move. You have basically three choices: GNP, transition or block. If you GNP or transition and time it wrong, you may get reversed. If you just stand there and block, you will get stood up. You also cant just sit back and hold transition block....you have to time it each time.

One other thing is stamina is finally right on the ground. I finished a fight in the 3rd round where I GNP'd a guy for 3 straight rounds. At the end of the fight, he had 42% and I had 79%. Thats how it should be. If I'm constantly taking a guy down, transitioning and punching him, he should be exhausted.

Here is the thing though: You cant just lay and pray and expect to win. In that split decision, I was facing a striker who had no takedown defense but was great at blocking transitions and ground defense. So the entire fight I would get punched and kicked in the standup, take him down and land a few strikes but none were significant. Still, I was controlling the fight so I thought I had an easy unanimous decision but I was wrong. He won by split decision.