UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

[redsrule]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

She gets her hands on Floyd and he's on the ground tapping within 5 seconds. You guys gotta realize why she's special. Her steamrolling everybody is not an accident. Btw, so you guys know how small Floyd is? I guarantee you she tosses and submits bigger dudes than Floyd all the time at practice

I'm sure she does. It's a little different when they are actually fighting back. She wouldn't get away with the charging her opponent with a guy. Floyd would KO her with one punch. Especially with MMA gloves.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

Ronda's attitude and protection from Dana is what most people can't stand. She has no off switch. She has emotional issues from her childhood and I think that makes her the way she is. She/Dana say she can beat any man, yet they know that one it can never be proven right or wrong and two that she has already shown she can't in practice. Then her coaches talk about how she is knocking out striking champions in sparing sessions. She surrounds herself with other women who are no where near her level in talent or looks so there is no doubt she is on top. They are also just a rude as she is.

She would be likeable if she could get over her inferiority complex. Its fine to say you are the best and believe it, but you can't say it the way she does. Look at Conor and Chael, Conor is the champ and talks even more than Ronda, yet people don't hate him as much because he is funny and the way he says it. Chael wasn't near the talent level so people didn't take him as serious, but he used a lot of humor. Ronda has no humor.



I would love to she her lose, but I don't think it will happen here. Now if Tate beats her and then after she demands an immediate rematch and Dana does whatever she wants, she then loses again to Tate, look out. She may become broken mentally. Everything she has fought to prove that she is the best would be taken away and it may be a hard fall.

Protection? Thats so crazy to me. If you are talking about Cyborg, how is he protecting her?

- They arent in the same weight class.
- Cyborg is a known steroids cheat and that is part of the reason why she cant make 135.
- They dont have a 145 weight class because that weight class is even weaker than 135.

Also, why do people think that Cyborg would even be that much of a matchup? The toughest fighters shes faced are Carano and Coenen. She faced 2 of her division's top 10.

http://www.mmarising.com/rankings/unified-womens-mixed-martial-arts-rankings/

Watch the Carano fight again. Cyborg's grappling is average. Carano had full mount on her and for some strange reason stood up while in it. Coenen was successful grappling with her. If Ronda grapples with Cyborg, its over.

Now Ronda has beat 6 of the 9 women in her division's top 10 and is facing the 7th on Saturday. She's stopped them all. How is fighting 7 top ten fighters being protected?

People hate mouthy dominant champions. Half of the MMA audience hates Conor. More people hate Jones than hate Ronda. A ton of people hate Ronda. Thats just the way it is.

Thats why I hope Cyborg makes 135 in September in Invicta so they can just get that fight over with. No one wants to see Tate tapout again. Even though she hurt Eye with two overhand rights she still the same grinder she's always been. She needs to grapple to win and if you grapple too long with Ronda, she takes your arm.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

I apologize, I thought she meant Muhammad. I think Floyd KO's her in anything. Even MMA. Ronda also said she could beat Cain under the right circumstances iirc.

She also said that the reason she believes that is because she was raised to never say she couldnt accomplish anything. I find it strange that people take those statements so seriously.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

I'm sure she does. It's a little different when they are actually fighting back. She wouldn't get away with the charging her opponent with a guy. Floyd would KO her with one punch. Especially with MMA gloves.

Do you think she's never sparred with a man? Most female fighters have.

[p_rushing]

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Protection? Thats so crazy to me. If you are talking about Cyborg, how is he protecting her?

No nothing to do with Cyborg, just that he doesn't allow any discussion and just repeats the outrageous statements that Ronda says. He does similar things though for everything else.

I wouldn't take Ronda seriously, but she continuously brings up beat Floyd and other boxers, beating men, etc. Either stop the shtick or get in a ring or cage with full contact and prove it.

She also won't let the Cyborg, Tate, etc stuff go. Yes she is asked questions, but she continuously adds to it. Just say I've already said enough, let's fight at 135. For Tate she won't bow down and kiss her ring, so she is threated.


As far as the 145 thing, Dana won't make a 145 or 125 division in the UFC because it would affect Ronda. The second Ronda struggles to make 135, although she may not ever now, Dana will announce a 145 division and Ronda given the belt.

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[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

Rousey is probably going to be crazy expensive on Draft Kings this week. As a rule, I usually don't pick female fighters, but this is a no-brainer. I like Bethe and all, but sorry girl.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

Rousey is probably going to be crazy expensive on Draft Kings this week. As a rule, I usually don't pick female fighters, but this is a no-brainer. I like Bethe and all, but sorry girl.

Rousey is the most automatic pick I've ever had. She's gonna **** around and cost 20k.

[redsrule]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

Do you think she's never sparred with a man? Most female fighters have.

I'm sure she has. But she wouldn't be going full out with guys trying to hurt her. She wouldn't last long. That is my point. Unless the fight starts on the ground (where Rousey would obviously win), she would get KO'd before she got in the clinch with Floyd, Pac or any decent boxer at that weight.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

I'm sure she has. But she wouldn't be going full out with guys trying to hurt her. She wouldn't last long. That is my point. Unless the fight starts on the ground (where Rousey would obviously win), she would get KO'd before she got in the clinch with Floyd, Pac or any decent boxer at that weight.

I just dont think its that automatic that same weight professional boxer KO's female fighter just because he lands a punch or two. Especially when that female fighter is defending herself and trying to avoid punches.

To be honest, I really dont care about this debate. I wish the press would stop asking her stupid *** questions like could you beat a man and I wish she stopped answering.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

No nothing to do with Cyborg, just that he doesn't allow any discussion and just repeats the outrageous statements that Ronda says. He does similar things though for everything else.

I wouldn't take Ronda seriously, but she continuously brings up beat Floyd and other boxers, beating men, etc. Either stop the shtick or get in a ring or cage with full contact and prove it.

She also won't let the Cyborg, Tate, etc stuff go. Yes she is asked questions, but she continuously adds to it. Just say I've already said enough, let's fight at 135. For Tate she won't bow down and kiss her ring, so she is threated.


As far as the 145 thing, Dana won't make a 145 or 125 division in the UFC because it would affect Ronda. The second Ronda struggles to make 135, although she may not ever now, Dana will announce a 145 division and Ronda given the belt.

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Again how is it her fault if shes being asked the question at damn near every interview. She could do the pc thing and say "(Insert Male Fighter) is a man and I'm a woman so there is no reason to speculate" but thats not Ronda. Thats not what people want to see from Ronda. Ronda is interesting because she's brash and outspoken unlike 99% of MMA fighters that are boring and have nothing to say.

That no 145 or 125 division conspiracy is one of the most ridiculous MMA theories I've heard.

Womens 145 is a wasteland. Its Cyborg, Coenen and no one else. The #9 fighter in that division has a 4-3 record. The #5 fighter is 6-4. It would be ridiculous for the UFC to start a division when its that shallow especially when Cyborg has two wins over Coenen already.

****, 125 doesnt even have a name like Cyborg to lead a division. Its deeper than 125 but if you had a choice last year to start a 125 or 115 division....everyone would choose 115. At 115, you had people like Esparza, Penne, Calderwood and Herrig who MMA fans already heard of. There was no one at 125, who was promotable.

I guess I dont understand how no 125 or 145 is protecting Ronda. Other than Cyborg (who I think Ronda would beat easily), who is at those weight classes that could beat Ronda? Barb Honchak?

[p_rushing]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

I don't think anyone at 145 would beat Ronda. Cyborg has a chance, but unless Ronda folds when she gets hit, she will walk through her. The issue is that at 135 and 115, a lot of them are forced to fight at 135 if they want to be in the UFC. The depth at 135, which I don't think there is any to begin with, would disappear as a lot of them would move down.

115 is great and 125 probably would have a great champ as Joanna will move up.



For the media stuff, yeah they need to drop it. She also needs to drop it as it seems if they don't ask her, she brings it up on her own, see the ESPYs speech.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

I don't think anyone at 145 would beat Ronda. Cyborg has a chance, but unless Ronda folds when she gets hit, she will walk through her. The issue is that at 135 and 115, a lot of them are forced to fight at 135 if they want to be in the UFC. The depth at 135, which I don't think there is any to begin with, would disappear as a lot of them would move down.

115 is great and 125 probably would have a great champ as Joanna will move up.



For the media stuff, yeah they need to drop it. She also needs to drop it as it seems if they don't ask her, she brings it up on her own, see the ESPYs speech.

There is plenty of depth at 135. It just that Ronda is significantly better than them. Tate and Kaufman are former Strikeforce champions. Holm is a former boxing and kickboxing champion. Eye is technically a Bellator champion since she beat a Bellator champion in a non-title fight. Cat Zingano is a great female fighter. If Ronda retired, I could see a ton of people in that division being champ.

The ESPY's speech was a great line and it was responding to Floyd calling Ronda a guy and saying he "Never heard of HIM". I dont blame her at all for responding to that.

[Sgt_Carnage]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

I don't think you base liking a fighter totally off of wins and losses. Her personality gets old, for me at least. When she's just chill, she's cool. But when she does interviews calling out Mayweather and Ali's daughter and **** like that, just gets old. Someone throws Cyborg's name out and it's this reason and that reason why she doesn't do it. I know this **** talking sound bites are probably more for entertainment, it's just annoying to me.

Chael Sonnen does the same exact **** she does, but for me, it 's hilarious when he does it.

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Bingo......

[Sgt_Carnage]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

There is plenty of depth at 135. It just that Ronda is significantly better than them. Tate and Kaufman are former Strikeforce champions. Holm is a former boxing and kickboxing champion. Eye is technically a Bellator champion since she beat a Bellator champion in a non-title fight. Cat Zingano is a great female fighter. If Ronda retired, I could see a ton of people in that division being champ.

The ESPY's speech was a great line and it was responding to Floyd calling Ronda a guy and saying he "Never heard of HIM". I dont blame her at all for responding to that.

Mayweather made how much money for his last fight? Rousey just need to get over the fact that Floyd could care less about her.

[TheShizNo1]

Re: UFC 190 - Rousey vs. Correia - August 1st

Why ask the question if everything by her is going to get defended? Lol

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