Bellator 170: Ortiz vs. Sonnen (1-21-2017)

[Bigg Cee]

Re: Bellator 170: Ortiz vs. Sonnen (1-21-2017)

Tito Ortiz ($300,000 + no win bonus = $300,000) def. Chael Sonnen ($50,000)
Paul Daley ($50,000 + no win bonus = $50,000) def. Brennan Ward ($50,000)
Hisaki Kato ($30,000 + no win bonus = $33,000) def. Ralek Gracie ($33,000)
Emmanuel Sanchez ($20,000 + $20,000 = $40,000) def. Georgi Karakhanyan ($24,000)
Derek Campos (19,200 + $15,000 = $34,200) def. Derek Anderson ($7,800)
Henry Corrales ($14,000 + $14,000 = $28,000) def. Cody Bollinger ($2,500)
Guilherme Bomba ($12,000 + $12,000 = $24,000) def. John Mercurio ($2,000)
Kevin Casey ($10,000) fought to draw with Keith Berry ($3,000)
Alex Soto ($3,000 + $3,000 - $6,000*) def. Demarcus Brown ($2,000)
Chinzo Machida ($10,000 + $10,000) def. Jacar Ocampo ($1,500)
Jacob Rosales ($2,000 + $2,000 = $4,000) def. Ian Butler ($1,500)
Mike Segura ($1,500 + $1,500 = $3,000) def. Tommy Aaron ($2,000)
James Barnes ($2,000 + $2,000 = $4,000) def. Rob Gooch ($2,000)
Curtis Millender ($2,000 + $2,000 = $4,000) def. Johnny Cisneros ($2,000)
Colleen Schneider ($3,000* + $3,000 = $6,000) def. Chrissie Daniels ($4,500)
Jalin Turner ($1,500 + $1,500 = $3,000) def. Gabriel Green ($2,000)
Jack May ($2,000 + $2,000 = $4,000) def. Dave Cryer ($2,000)
Daniel Rodriguez ($1,500 + $1,500 = $3,000) def. Christina Gonzalez ($1,500*)

*fined 20 percent of purse, 10 of which goes to opponent, for missing weight

[Haz____]

Re: Bellator 170: Ortiz vs. Sonnen (1-21-2017)

Chinzo is so cool. Haha. It's too bad he's soooo dang old. Wish we got to see more of him when he was younger.

[Bigg Cee]

Re: Bellator 170: Ortiz vs. Sonnen (1-21-2017)

Why is everyone saying the Ortiz vs Sonnen fight was fixed?

Did it look like that to other ppl? To me it just looked like 2 old guys with outdated mma skills trying to prove they still got it. lol

[aholbert32]

Re: Bellator 170: Ortiz vs. Sonnen (1-21-2017)

Why is everyone saying the Ortiz vs Sonnen fight was fixed?

Did it look like that to other ppl? To me it just looked like 2 old guys with outdated mma skills trying to prove they still got it. lol

- Chael didnt attempt to handfight and prevent the RNC.

- The RNC didnt look like it was under Chael's chin. It looked like it was painful but most MMA fighters wouldnt tap to a choke that isnt under the chin and isnt a neck crank.

- Bellator has a history of shady looking finishes (See Kimbo v. Shamrock).

The only thing that makes me think it wasnt fixed was that the wrong guy won if you want to fix that fight. Chael is trying to get more fights and Tito is retiring so it makes more sense to have Chael win if its gonna be a fix.

It also could be that Chael is old and is a notorious quitter but the placement of that choke bothered me.

[p_rushing]

Re: Bellator 170: Ortiz vs. Sonnen (1-21-2017)

- Chael didnt attempt to handfight and prevent the RNC.

- The RNC didnt look like it was under Chael's chin. It looked like it was painful but most MMA fighters wouldnt tap to a choke that isnt under the chin and isnt a neck crank.

- Bellator has a history of shady looking finishes (See Kimbo v. Shamrock).

The only thing that makes me think it wasnt fixed was that the wrong guy won if you want to fix that fight. Chael is trying to get more fights and Tito is retiring so it makes more sense to have Chael win if its gonna be a fix.

It also could be that Chael is old and is a notorious quitter but the placement of that choke bothered me.

I think Chael gave it to him. He got on bottom trying a choke he knew he wasn't getting on that neck. Then he doesn't want any gnp, so he just gives his back and taps.

He doesn't get hurt, can fight soon, and Tito goes out on top.

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[Haz____]

Re: Bellator 170: Ortiz vs. Sonnen (1-21-2017)

Not to mention Chael has been doing basically nothing but grappling for the past 2 years... It just doesn't add up.

[Dave_S]

Re: Bellator 170: Ortiz vs. Sonnen (1-21-2017)

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