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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #46
    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

    Originally posted by Bigg Cee
    I wonder what the ppv buys will be for this card. More so, now that the co main event is scrapped. T-Wood was basically begging people to buy this ppv during the weigh in show.

    T-Wood is just not a draw and for some reason always comes off a lil arrogant and always seems to be worried about the next money fight. I guess that's the new UFC we have.
    I'm gonna buy it. Woodley/Wonderboy was great. I want to see Evans at MW and Hunt/Overeem should be fun.

    I dont think it is going to hurt it that much. Instead of 350k, it will do 250k. Khabib and Tony arent draws yet so it cant hurt it that much.

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    • Hiro1
      MVP
      • Sep 2009
      • 1229

      #47
      Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

      I want to buy the card to support Woodley. It's a tough ask buying it through Comcast as it costs me $80. $59.99 + tax. Is there a cheaper quality option like going through PS4 or another app? I just worry about quality and buffering.
      Psn: Plex-07

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #48
        Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

        Originally posted by Hiro1
        I want to buy the card to support Woodley. It's a tough ask buying it through Comcast as it costs me $80. $59.99 + tax. Is there a cheaper quality option like going through PS4 or another app? I just worry about quality and buffering.
        Yep. I think its 45 going through PS4 if you have PS plus. I've used it for the last few fights I've ordered and it was great with one exception. The PS4 stream went out during the 3rd round of Conor/Diaz 2. Other than that its been great.

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        • The JareBear
          Be Good To One Another
          • Jul 2010
          • 11560

          #49
          Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          Yep. I think its 45 going through PS4 if you have PS plus. I've used it for the last few fights I've ordered and it was great with one exception. The PS4 stream went out during the 3rd round of Conor/Diaz 2. Other than that its been great.
          Damn that's a particularly bad round to lose signal during.

          That was when myself and all fellow Conor fans went from "Hell Yeah!" to "Oh ****!"
          "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #50
            Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

            Originally posted by The JareBear
            Damn that's a particularly bad round to lose signal during.

            That was when myself and all fellow Conor fans went from "Hell Yeah!" to "Oh ****!"
            I went ****ing nuts. It came back in the middle of the 4th. PS refunded my money so it was all good.

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            • cabra1
              MVP
              • Dec 2013
              • 1055

              #51
              Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              Actually One FC has implemented a program that has worked well after they had a fighter die because of a weight cut. P-Rushing explained it a little. This is just an example. Lets say a fight is at 155, they demand that the fighter show up on fightweek no more than 170. Two days before weighin they have to weigh no more than 162. A day before the fighter cant be bigger than 160.

              This makes it so fighters arent doing drastic cuts the day before weighins.
              Fair enough. Either way something need to be done. This kind of stuff is horrible for business, fighters and consumers so it should be a no brainer.

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              • Bigg Cee
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 4676

                #52
                Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                I'm gonna buy it. Woodley/Wonderboy was great. I want to see Evans at MW and Hunt/Overeem should be fun.

                I dont think it is going to hurt it that much. Instead of 350k, it will do 250k. Khabib and Tony arent draws yet so it cant hurt it that much.
                Ive decided I'm going to get the ppv also. I really do like T-Wood and Wonder Boy and I want to see that rematch. I wasn't at first but whatever, I need something to watch.

                Side Note: I really hope we don't see SUGA get KOed at MW by Daniel Kelly. If that happens the dude needs to retire. Now SUGA did look in great shape at the weigh in, so I'm hoping for good things.

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                • p_rushing
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 14514

                  #53
                  Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

                  Originally posted by cabra1
                  Fair enough. Either way something need to be done. This kind of stuff is horrible for business, fighters and consumers so it should be a no brainer.
                  Wrestlers are already used to same day weigh-in. They are also the main abusers of huge weight cuts. So they will still cut unless you make them stay on weight all week.

                  Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk

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                  • Dave_S
                    Dave
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 7835

                    #54
                    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

                    Originally posted by p_rushing
                    Wrestlers are already used to same day weigh-in. They are also the main abusers of huge weight cuts. So they will still cut unless you make them stay on weight all week.

                    Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
                    Weigh in during the fight the immediately precedes your fight.

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                    • johnmangala
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4525

                      #55
                      Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

                      Some Steiner mma math, means not much but just fun patterns.

                      Red(w,l): tangibles:[(streak pattern)]=[(win%), (P(R|B): (50%)-(R win%)+(B loss%)), (betting line odds)... (Strength of competition)] | intangibles

                      Blue(w,l): tangibles:[(streak pattern)]=[(win%), (P(B|R): (50%)-(B win%)+(R loss%)), (betting line odds)... (Strength of competition)] | intangibles
                      :- Notable moments


                      209
                      Prelims
                      Albert Morales > Andre Soukhamthath via SD

                      Tyson Pedro > Paul Craig via R1TKO- helbows

                      Mark Godbeer > Daniel Spitz via DEC

                      Iuri Alcântara > Luke Sanders via R2SUB- belly down kneebar with leg triangle
                      :- Sanders had Alcântara hurt, Alcântara manages to trap an arm while turtled. Sanders illegal knee, Sanders hurts him again in the second and Alcântara grabs a leg in scramble.

                      Mirsad Bektić < Darren The Damage Elkins via R3KO- clinch high kick, punches
                      :- Bektić hurts and cuts Elkins but kept going to the well driving TDs against the cage. Elkins rallies clinch breaking with a high kick and follow up punches for finish

                      Marcin Tybura > Luis Henrique via R3TKO- mount punches, Henrique turned over

                      Main card
                      Overeem > Hunt via R3KO- clinch high knee reminiscent of Fujita KO
                      O(41-15):+1,-1,+3,-2,+12,-1,+3,-1,+2,-1,+2,-1,+1,-3,+1,-1,+3,0,+8,-2,+1,-1,+4,-1 =(.72)(50.22%)(-133) ... | off KO loss, worn chin, more technical and skillful
                      H(12-10-1-1): -1,+5,-6,+4,-1,0,+1,-2,+2,0 = (.5)(49.78%)(+111) | grit, wearing chin, lawsuit
                      :- Competitive, Hunt hurt Overeem couple times. Reem remained resilient and clinches to neutralize Hunts striking but still gets rocked in clinch few times. He pushes Hunt to the cage in final round and unleashes überknees.

                      Amanda Cooper (+107) < Cynthia Calvillo (-127) via R1SUB- RNC
                      :- Calvillo snatches the back off an anaconda attempt, very athletic

                      Evans < Kelly via SD
                      E(19-5-1): +10,0,+3,-1,+4,-2,+2,-2 = (.76)(49.84%)(-220) ... | experience, off loss streak, new weight
                      K(12-1): +9,-1,+3= (.92)(50.16%)(+185) ... | olympic judo, unknown, off win streak
                      :- Kelly grabs lead hand several times and lands straight lefts. Some trips and some pull kick sweeps. Evans lands few takedowns and counters but Kelly did little more.

                      Vannata < Teymur via DEC
                      V(9-1): +8,-1,+1 = (.9)(50.07%)(-375) ... | groove, creativity, dynamic
                      T(5-1): -1,+5 = (.83)(49.93%)(+305) ... | changes opp underwear, striker, undefeated in UFC
                      :- Teymur neutralized Vannata aggression circling and outstriking him coming in. Both caught each others kick but the difference in goals is apparent as Vannata spin kicks off caught kick while Teymur fundamentally aims for simple shots.

                      Woodley > Thompson via MD
                      W(16-3-1): +10,-1,+1,-1,+2,-1,+3,0=(.8)(50+.13-.2)(49.93%)(+110) ... | Dictated pace, TNT, the chase
                      T(13-1-1): +6,-1,+7,0 =(.87)(50+.2-.13)(50.07%)(-130) .... | the chase, creativitity, cold karate
                      :- Lot of circling, lots of boos. Woodley seemed to be on the verge of defeat being out pointed by Thompson, however comes back late in final minute landing most damaging shots of the night dropping Thompson 2x.


                      ... Additional layer of calculation of streak pattern reveals strength of competition by measuring and weighing opponents records.
                      A lot of calculations, so maybe edit in rest later.

                      Ex:
                      Streak pattern-(opponent win loss record)
                      Net win streak
                      Net total wins(wins-losses)
                      Total fights
                      % of total

                      Lesnar
                      +1(2-5),-1(10-3), +3[(28-13),(16-8),12-3),(12-0)], -2[(8-0),(35-11)], 0(12-10)
                      -3, -7, +15, +8, +9, +12, -32
                      8
                      174
                      (0.05%)

                      Velasquez
                      +9[(2-1),(4-0),(10-2),(10-1),(5-1),(14-4),(30-6),(32-5),(5-1)],-1(13-1),+4(16-3),(15-1),(18-4),(16-2)],-1(19-5),+1(18-4)
                      +1,+4,+8,+9,+4,+13,+24,+27,+4, -14, +13, +14, +14, +14, -24, +14
                      125
                      264
                      (0.47%)
                      Last edited by johnmangala; 03-09-2017, 04:35 AM.

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                      • Dave_S
                        Dave
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 7835

                        #56
                        Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

                        we need uppercuts like that in the game, I've been saying it.

                        dang, those body shots. they were hooks though not 1-2 lol.
                        Last edited by Dave_S; 03-04-2017, 08:25 PM.

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                        • Bigg Cee
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4676

                          #57
                          Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

                          My picks for tonight.

                          Tyrone Woodly vs. Stephen Thompson
                          Lando Vannata vs. David Teymur
                          Rashad Evans vs. Dan Kelly
                          Amanda Cooper vs. Cynthia Calvillo
                          Alistair Overeem vs. Mark Hunt
                          Marcin Tybura vs. Luis Henrique
                          Mirsad Bektic vs. Darren Elkins
                          Iuri Alcantara vs. Luke Sanders
                          Mark Godbeer vs. Daniel Spitz
                          Tyson Pedro vs. Paul Craig
                          Albert Morales vs. Andre Soukhamthath

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                          • The JareBear
                            Be Good To One Another
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 11560

                            #58
                            Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

                            Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                            My picks for tonight.

                            Tyrone Woodly vs. Stephen Thompson
                            Lando Vannata vs. David Teymur
                            Rashad Evans vs. Dan Kelly
                            Amanda Cooper vs. Cynthia Calvillo
                            Alistair Overeem vs. Mark Hunt
                            Marcin Tybura vs. Luis Henrique
                            Mirsad Bektic vs. Darren Elkins
                            Iuri Alcantara vs. Luke Sanders
                            Mark Godbeer vs. Daniel Spitz
                            Tyson Pedro vs. Paul Craig
                            Albert Morales vs. Andre Soukhamthath
                            You're picking against my girl Cooper!?!?!?
                            "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."

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                            The Tortured Mind Of A Rockies Fan. In Arenado I Trust.

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                            • Bigg Cee
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 4676

                              #59
                              Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

                              Originally posted by The JareBear
                              You're picking against my girl Cooper!?!?!?
                              I never even heard of these 2 women. This fight was a toss up. I only picked Cynthia Calvillo because she did the Roy Nelson belly rub and the Diaz elbows at the weigh in. That won me over. lol

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                              • Bigg Cee
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4676

                                #60
                                Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (3-4-2017)

                                I wish this fight was on the main ppv card... Mirsad Bektic vs. Darren Elkins

                                I'm a huge Darren Elkins fan. His non stop relentless ground game is so entertaining to me. I don't know why they added these chicks to the ppv. Now I will say Cooper is a cutie.
                                Last edited by Bigg Cee; 03-04-2017, 08:53 PM.

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