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  • CaptainZombie
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    • Jul 2003
    • 37851

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    ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***



    Blockbuster main event announced
    By Louie Dee
    June 29, 2006



    This Tuesday night, ECW returns to Philadelphia for the first edition of ECW on Sci Fi in the old stomping grounds. It will be the Fourth of July, and there will be some fireworks in the Wachovia Center that night as a blockbuster main event has just been announced.

    In the main event, WWE and ECW Champion Rob Van Dam will defend both of his championships against Edge in an Extreme Rules Match.WWE.com and ECW.com caught up with Van Dam just moments after the announcement was made, and while it seems that Edge has gotten the best of him in the past week, the champion doesn’t want to be counted out just yet.

    “Let’s not forget I’ve gotten him a few times too,” the champion reminded WWE.com. “And at Vengeance, I beat him to remain the champion. He says he respects me and all, so I’m sure he respects me even more now. But I’m sure he’s going to keep coming after (the WWE Championship) until he thinks he’s going to get it. I have to keep him from that, so Tuesday I’ll be kicking his ***.”

    The match will be fought under Extreme Rules, which Van Dam is not shy about promoting as his specialty. It will also be in the city of Brotherly Love, which RVD and ECW called home until 2001. According to the champion, that may factor into his motivation more than anything.

    “It’ll be in Philadelphia, which obviously mans that there will be a tremendous amount of energy behind me,” he said. “It’s our first television back in Philadelphia as well, (so) it’s our first ECW on Sci Fi in front of an ECW crowd. That’s extremely important; One Night Stand was off the charts, and anyone that watched it felt the energy from the fans. They could see that connection. You don’t catch that in our first few ECW on Sci Fi shows because it’s not in front of the ECW crowd. But at the Wachovia Center, we’ll have a chance to see fans that want ECW and are passionate about it. They want what we’re offering and I’m so thankful that people will be able to see what we’re about.”

    Despite the fact the he was victorious over Edge at Vengeance, RVD knows that this Tuesday night won’t be a cakewalk for him.

    “It’s going to be a hard fought battle, but that’s the way I like it,” he said. “I had tough matches four nights in a row last week (ECW Live Event, Vengeance, RAW, ECW on Sci Fi) that took a lot of endurance to make it through. With Extreme Rules, I know Edge will be bringing it. There will be some hard falls and chair eating, going through tables and fighting in the crowd…but that’s the way I like it. I like to be reconnected with that energy. I am confident that I won’t let him take the WWE Championship back to RAW; I like it too much. It’s fun to spin.”

    RVD won the WWE Championship on his turf at One Night Stand. But if Edge were to come into that environment and take it back (as well as the ECW Championship), RVD wouldn’t be insulted. In fact, he thinks that Edge wants it that way.

    “That would be ridiculous. Edge wants to be ECW so bad, and obviously by challenging me he’s getting to wrestle in the new ECW,” Van Dam stated. “It’s obvious by everything he’s done in WWE, with the TLC Matches and his Hardcore showcasing, that he was definitely a fan of the old ECW. He was probably a fan of Rob Van Dam; he had to be, since I was ECW and am ECW right now. He wasn’t there back in the day, and by him coming in and thinking he’s going to take the ECW Championship, he thinks that will make up for it. But that’s not going to happen.”

    Whether it’s Edge or Rob Van Dam that walks away as champion, history dictates that it will be one hell of a match. WWE.com and ECW.com will have comments from Edge on Friday.
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  • The GIGGAS
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    • Mar 2003
    • 28474

    #2
    Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

    I can't wait for this EXTREME broadcast of ECW with the EXTREME Rules match between Edge and the EXTREME Whole ****in' Show RVD. It's going to be an EXTREME match and an EXTREME night. Hell, maybe we'll have EXTREME ECW chants and an EXTREME beatdown from Big Show to the EXTREME Tommy Dreamer.

    All I have to say: EXTREME.
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    • CaptainZombie
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      • Jul 2003
      • 37851

      #3
      Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

      Originally posted by The GIGGAS
      I can't wait for this EXTREME broadcast of ECW with the EXTREME Rules match between Edge and the EXTREME Whole ****in' Show RVD. It's going to be an EXTREME match and an EXTREME night. Hell, maybe we'll have EXTREME ECW chants and an EXTREME beatdown from Big Show to the EXTREME Tommy Dreamer.

      All I have to say: EXTREME.
      If they follow last weeks format where they had a very strong opening match and a very strong main event than the show should be ok.

      I don't care to see Big Show or Tommy Dreamer, I'm Sorry. We should be seeing guys like CM Punk, Mike Knox, and CW Anderson wrestling instead.

      Personally, I would send Al Snow and Big Show back to RAW/SD, Have Tommy Dreamer back at Road Agent duties, while allowing the show to be fresh with a set of wrestlers we haven't seen in a long time mixed with the young OVW/DSW talent.
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      • Mo_Magic
        Pro
        • Jan 2006
        • 715

        #4
        Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

        Maybe with this show Vince will see that ECW is meant to be a smaller venue type show and have REAL ECW fans. The reason we don't hear all that we heard at "One Night Stand" is because ECW is taped with Smackdown!(.)

        This show however is most likely going to attract mainly hardcore ECW fans who are intent on the best(meaning Smackdown! may seem pretty hardcore too). Hopefully Vince sees what goes on here(if it does) and pulls his head out of his ***, gives FULL ownership back to Paul Heyman, and backs off. I'm 15 and I can probably write up a better storyline than his proffesional "writers".

        The man is a billionare. What does he have to lose?

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        • EWRMETS
          All Star
          • Jul 2002
          • 7491

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          Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

          Originally posted by Mo_Magic
          Maybe with this show Vince will see that ECW is meant to be a smaller venue type show and have REAL ECW fans. The reason we don't hear all that we heard at "One Night Stand" is because ECW is taped with Smackdown!(.)

          This show however is most likely going to attract mainly hardcore ECW fans who are intent on the best(meaning Smackdown! may seem pretty hardcore too). Hopefully Vince sees what goes on here(if it does) and pulls his head out of his ***, gives FULL ownership back to Paul Heyman, and backs off. I'm 15 and I can probably write up a better storyline than his proffesional "writers".

          The man is a billionare. What does he have to lose?
          The show isn't going to sell well. If hardcore fans do go there, they are going to crap all over the product. ECW already has lost its hardcore fan base.

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          • Lintyfresh85
            Where have I been?
            • Jul 2002
            • 17492

            #6
            Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

            Their the reason McMahon ****ed it up in the first place.... Once he heard the crowds at Saturday's house show he pulled the plug... if not for them ****ting on a product that was 2 weeks old we still might have Heyman....

            Good job fans! But honestly ECW can still be a viable form of wrestling, just not in the form any of the old fans will accept. With that being said as Heyman is still one of the writers for the show I expect to still have quality sprinkled throughout the broadcast...just I will never expect an amazing show... of course with that being said Raw does have its amazing shows so I expect ECW to have their moments as well.... Just I don't expect it to ever be what Heyman imagined the re-birth could turn out to be.
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            • EWRMETS
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              • Jul 2002
              • 7491

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              Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

              Originally posted by Superstar
              Their the reason McMahon ****ed it up in the first place.... Once he heard the crowds at Saturday's house show he pulled the plug... if not for them ****ting on a product that was 2 weeks old we still might have Heyman....

              Good job fans! But honestly ECW can still be a viable form of wrestling, just not in the form any of the old fans will accept. With that being said as Heyman is still one of the writers for the show I expect to still have quality sprinkled throughout the broadcast...just I will never expect an amazing show... of course with that being said Raw does have its amazing shows so I expect ECW to have their moments as well.... Just I don't expect it to ever be what Heyman imagined the re-birth could turn out to be.
              They have every right to crap on the show. Those fans are responsible for ECW coming back in the first place. What's the point of a third brand, when it is exactly the same as the other two? So that you can see developmental wrestlers and has beens on cable?

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              • JiggidyJames
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                • Apr 2005
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                Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

                Originally posted by EWRMETS
                They have every right to crap on the show. Those fans are responsible for ECW coming back in the first place. What's the point of a third brand, when it is exactly the same as the other two? So that you can see developmental wrestlers and has beens on cable?
                No, they are NOT the reason the ECW name is back.

                The reason the ECW name is back is curiosity. You think 10,000 people from NY and Philly accounted for those DVD sales? If all those people who bought "The Rise and Fall of ECW" were ECW fans who bought tickets, bought PPVs, bought merchandise...ECW would have become a national force. How many times did you readd someone say "I never watched ECW, but I love this DVD"?

                If you think that the "smark" audience is the reason for anyting, you're delusional. That audience is so small that it wouldn't make sense for Vince to market anything directly to them. Screw them. They don't deserve a ******* thing.
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                • EWRMETS
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 7491

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                  Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

                  Originally posted by JiggidyJames
                  No, they are NOT the reason the ECW name is back.

                  The reason the ECW name is back is curiosity. You think 10,000 people from NY and Philly accounted for those DVD sales? If all those people who bought "The Rise and Fall of ECW" were ECW fans who bought tickets, bought PPVs, bought merchandise...ECW would have become a national force. How many times did you readd someone say "I never watched ECW, but I love this DVD"?

                  If you think that the "smark" audience is the reason for anyting, you're delusional. That audience is so small that it wouldn't make sense for Vince to market anything directly to them. Screw them. They don't deserve a ******* thing.
                  I never said they bought every DVD but they are responsible. What helped ECW grow to a national stage..Vince McMahon? One of the major features of ECW was its rabid fan base. To dismiss them and say they had no impact is ********.

                  There are people like me who don't like current wrestling but still occasionly watch it because nothing else is on. ECW appealed to me because the storylines were less cartoonish and the product was for a more mature audience.

                  What does McMahon do right when he starts ECW...he puts guys like Big Show and John Cena, two defining characters of the WWE, into the new ECW. He loads up ECW with WWE storylines and WWE production. So they turn off any old ECW fan and what's left? Alliance part II and an inferior brand. It really does seem that McMahon is more into patting his own ego today than actually growing the company.

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                  • JiggidyJames
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                    • Apr 2005
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                    Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

                    Originally posted by EWRMETS
                    I never said they bought every DVD but they are responsible. What helped ECW grow to a national stage..Vince McMahon? One of the major features of ECW was its rabid fan base. To dismiss them and say they had no impact is ********.

                    There are people like me who don't like current wrestling but still occasionly watch it because nothing else is on. ECW appealed to me because the storylines were less cartoonish and the product was for a more mature audience.

                    What does McMahon do right when he starts ECW...he puts guys like Big Show and John Cena, two defining characters of the WWE, into the new ECW. He loads up ECW with WWE storylines and WWE production. So they turn off any old ECW fan and what's left? Alliance part II and an inferior brand. It really does seem that McMahon is more into patting his own ego today than actually growing the company.
                    ECW DID NOT have a national presence. How many shows did they run Texas? California? Washington? North Carolina? One, in CA.

                    And Vince didn't bring them to a national stage? I remember going to a Raw one time at the Manahhtan Center and seeing the Dudley Boys, Sabu...

                    The true ECW fan had very little to do with this "ECW" being formed. Vince saw the DVD sales and said "Hey, let's do someting". He saw the buyrate for ONS I and said "Maybe we can do something with this". Did an ECW PPV ever come close to the buys that show did? No.

                    This thing wasn't going to be great right off the bat. I think that's where people like you and the ones in Philly get lost.
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                    • EWRMETS
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

                      Originally posted by JiggidyJames
                      ECW DID NOT have a national presence. How many shows did they run Texas? California? Washington? North Carolina? One, in CA.

                      And Vince didn't bring them to a national stage? I remember going to a Raw one time at the Manahhtan Center and seeing the Dudley Boys, Sabu...

                      The true ECW fan had very little to do with this "ECW" being formed. Vince saw the DVD sales and said "Hey, let's do someting". He saw the buyrate for ONS I and said "Maybe we can do something with this". Did an ECW PPV ever come close to the buys that show did? No.

                      This thing wasn't going to be great right off the bat. I think that's where people like you and the ones in Philly get lost.
                      I'm not at all like fans in Philly. I never have gone to a wrestling show and the only wrestling PPV i ever bought was Wrestlemania XI. I just realize that ECW will fail as long as they stick with WWE production and WWE storylines because then it just becomes a C show. Wrestling isn't popular enough for WWE to have three brands if they all are the same.

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                      • JiggidyJames
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                        • Apr 2005
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                        Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

                        Originally posted by EWRMETS
                        I'm not at all like fans in Philly. I never have gone to a wrestling show and the only wrestling PPV i ever bought was Wrestlemania XI. I just realize that ECW will fail as long as they stick with WWE production and WWE storylines because then it just becomes a C show. Wrestling isn't popular enough for WWE to have three brands if they all are the same.
                        If you're not of these smarky smark true blue ECW fans, then what did you expect? Did you really expect Vince to give Heyman full autonomy? It took an absolute train wreck for that to happen and took another one to change it. Did you really think the production wouldn't be up to the standards that Vince has created? The guy has a great crew, he shouldn't use them?

                        Of course this was going to be the C-show, no matter how it was booked. And a third brand could work. We have Vince's vision (Raw), we have his vision of WCW (SmackDown), and now, like it or not, we'll have the McMahon vision of ECW.
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                        • EWRMETS
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

                          Originally posted by JiggidyJames
                          If you're not of these smarky smark true blue ECW fans, then what did you expect? Did you really expect Vince to give Heyman full autonomy? It took an absolute train wreck for that to happen and took another one to change it. Did you really think the production wouldn't be up to the standards that Vince has created? The guy has a great crew, he shouldn't use them?

                          Of course this was going to be the C-show, no matter how it was booked. And a third brand could work. We have Vince's vision (Raw), we have his vision of WCW (SmackDown), and now, like it or not, we'll have the McMahon vision of ECW.
                          When Vince announced the creation of ECW, I did not believe Heyman would have full autonomy but I definitely did believe that he was going for something different than Raw and Smackdown. Should Vince use his production crew? Not if they turn ECW into a polished show. ECW should be a gritty, darker show. Top notch production should be able to do more than just one look.

                          Smackdown's roster may look like WCW but it's pretty clear that Vince views it as the B show which really makes no sense. It might help Raw's ratings a little but it definitely hurts Smackdown's. Vince would be able to make more money if all three brands were must see TV.

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                          • JiggidyJames
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                            • Apr 2005
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                            Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

                            Originally posted by EWRMETS
                            Smackdown's roster may look like WCW but it's pretty clear that Vince views it as the B show which really makes no sense. It might help Raw's ratings a little but it definitely hurts Smackdown's. Vince would be able to make more money if all three brands were must see TV.
                            No, it's more than the roster. The way it's booked is EXACTLY the way WCW was booked before Hogan came on board. Raw and Smackdown really are different shows. It might be subtle to some, but to me it's obvious.
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                            • EWRMETS
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              Re: ***Official ECW on SciFi 7/4/06 Spoilers & Live Discussion Thread***

                              Originally posted by JiggidyJames
                              No, it's more than the roster. The way it's booked is EXACTLY the way WCW was booked before Hogan came on board. Raw and Smackdown really are different shows. It might be subtle to some, but to me it's obvious.
                              You are right in a way. Raw and ECW are a lot more similar than Raw and Smackdown.

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