Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread
Okay then. If you say so.
Okay then. If you say so.
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This whole conversation, man...
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Most make a wishes means little to this discussion that doesn't put a spotlight on how big a cultural icon John Cena is. Scrubs on your favorite sports team grant wishes. Two most followed means little as well because Twitter didn't exist during their time. That's like saying LeBron is a bigger star than Michael Jordan because he's got more Twitter fans. Merchandise sales I don't think Cena has that yet still, despite the fact he's got the advantage of having about forty seven thousand different shirts pumped out a week for him.
As for who could replace Austin and Rock. You're joking if you think any of them could have done what they did. First of all Bret left the company and Shawn was hurt so they weren't right there. Triple H could not have carried the company the way that either of them did and neither could Undertaker. Hence why they didn't. Cena could have been replaced easily because WWE wouldn't have shut down had he not been there.Comment
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You guys are arguing something that can't be proven. Different guys have different levels of importance to different eras, largely based on the supporting cast of the roster they were a part of. Because of all the potential variables, this argument could go on forever.Comment
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I think we should be done with this argument.
It's obvious your mind isn't getting changed, which is fine. Everyone can think what they want.
I'm pretty sure you're in the minority though, even though those nostalgia-tinted glasses can be pretty strong.badComment
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Hogan had a lesser supporting cast and is the GOAT. Austin and Rock had each other plus many more main event caliber guys. Cena is irreplaceable. Orton is big, but not to the point where him bring gone would matter. Bryan and punk just have the support of the 10%ers and occasionally spike in popularity but doesn't sustain over time. Fact of the matter is, if Cena were to suffer a career ending injury it would be absolutely detrimental to the company.St. Louis Cardinals | Milwaukee Bucks | Los Angeles Rams
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That was actually my point. I probably worded it vaguely, my fault.
WWE hasn't built up others to the level of Hogan and Cena in their eras, so obviously losing them would really hurt the company. The Attitude Era is just weird in that WWE had an odd mix of guys that were huge in the era and also had guys just below them that could step up if needed.
I just don't see how this conversation ends in anything but "agree to disagree" because there's no undisputed metric to judge how big a guy was. Is it fair to hold it against Rock and Austin that WWE managed to build up other stars? Is it unfairly boosting Hogan and Cena because WWE didn't do that in their eras? Do we count merchandise? Movie sales? Twitter mentions? Ratings? Just pure longevity? There's too much going on for this to be so cut-and-dry for either side.Comment
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If you aren't around little kids, then you can't see how popular Cena is. That's all the little snot nosed kids wear. There's a few Bryan shirts sneaking in, but mostly it's those bright *** Cena shirts. They even wear his dumb wristbands. And without Hogan, I'm sure there's no wrestling, or nowhere near like it is. I mean, dude helped 2 major companies flourish. Rock and SCSA only had like a combined 5-6 years in which they were hot. And whoever pulled out the TV ratings, C'mon man lol.
Yup, let's move on. I'd rather not see Cena and Hogan be (rightfully so) defended.
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To be fair, that's no worse than saying Cena is a bigger star than Austin/The Rock because he has more twitter followers (which the Rock actually has more now, but that wasn't the point). Twitter wasn't around when SCSA was THE biggest name in the sports entertainment industry, so, that's a pretty crazy comparison "stat."
I still think Austin was just as big of a name inside the WWF ring as those two, but he doesn't come close to Cena's outside the ring marketability/impact and appearances, so since that is the argument, Cena is a very clear second to Hogan, with The Rock third and Austin fourth.
The "Attitude Era" just had so many damn, damn talented people and popular people that no one needed to come close to that level on their own. Hell, DX merchandise was more prevalent than Austin or the Rock for a large chunk of time as well.Last edited by Beantown; 03-03-2014, 08:53 AM.Comment
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Since everyone's throwing in an opinion, Austin broke near every record for the WWF (at the time), PPVs, merchandise, house tickets, you name it Austin probably broke it.
To the comment about Cena and his popularity with kids, Austin was pretty big too. No Austin didn't have the merchandise machine behind him like every wrestler does today, but I can't remember a day while in middle school without seeing some kind of Stone Cold t-shirt.
In my opinion, if the WWF (then) was the same as the WWE (now) then I'd bet the house that Austin would be more popular then Cena.Comment
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Austin had a wider fan base he appealed to. You had kids who thought he was cool to imitate and act like, and you had adults who gravitated to his character because he basically gave a giant middle finger to his boss, and what working class person hasn't thought about doing that?Comment
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Guys, this is the Spoilers thread. Let's get back on topic. First and only warning.Twitter - WTF_OS
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