WTF WWE!?

[TimmeH]

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That's all it takes though in this business. One injury, but the business needs to move on and someone has to take that spot, no matter the severity. Look at how Kerry Von Erich took David's spot against Ric Flair after David's death. David was going to be the next great one.

Well I think they could have at least gotten an MRI done on KK before they decided to pull the briefcase.

He suffered the injury Saturday, they had all Sunday and Monday before Raw to get an MRI and diagnosis. I'm sure there's doctors in this country not named James Andrews that can at least read an MRI.

If they knew this was only a six-to-eight-week injury, they could have continued KK's Countdown promos, even air little comedy segments of him preparing/training for his Wrestlemania main event.

I wonder if they had planned on Kennedy swerving everyone and cashing in on SD!(no faith in Batista, as JJ mentioned), but with the injury they had to make a quick change.

Oh well, even though I'm not happy KK lost the briefcase, I'm really happy to know that he's coming back shortly and I'll hopefully get a feud between my two favorites in the E going into Summerslam. It should be great...

[ZM Punk]

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First, Edge is 30. He has plenty of time to have his "WrestleMania moment" (whatever that means). Heck, even if he doesn't he's still been a part of three of the best WrestleMania matches in years.

Second, HE'S A ****ING HEEL!!!! He's supposed to win cheap, he's supposed to take advantage of opportunities, he's supposed to bend the rules in his favor. He's a chicken**** heel...so he's booked like one. In WWE, heels act like heels and faces act like faces. At the very least, they all have a code they follow. Edge's is what I described above.

Edge being moved to SmackDown is a huge sign that they have faith in him. They didn't want to put the title on Batista (don't give me any dirt crap, it's pretty obvious), they can't put it on Henry...so what do they do? Take the TOP HEEL IN WWE and put him on SmackDown. He has THREE ready made feuds -- Batista, Taker and Kennedy. All of them are money.

Yeah, having the guy who popped ratings during his last two reigns win the title in a twist ending on the "B Show" while setting up three money feuds was horrible booking. It's such simple booking, if they did anything else they would look like they wanted to kill SmackDown.

EDIT: TimmeH, you made my night!

Cosign, If they just wanted a transitional champion they would have put the strap on Batista.

[ILLCHILL]

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I am convinced that Edge, with HHH out, is the top heel in the WWE. I'd even go as far as saying he is the most improved wrestler over the six or so years. It was mildly predicatble what would happen the instant Edge pinned Kennedy (I called it to all my friends immediately) but, depending on the way it was done on TV, very entertaining. I am hoping for a short Benoit/Edge title feud after Edge defeats Batista at Judgement (just a preditcion) and after Benoit drops the US strap to Kane (just a wish). We'll see what comes of this but whatever leads up to a Kennedy/Edge feud on a main PPV like Summerslam is OK in my book.

[TimmeH]

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I am convinced that Edge, with HHH out, is the top heel in the WWE. I'd even go as far as saying he is the most improved wrestler over the six or so years. It was mildly predicatble what would happen the instant Edge pinned Kennedy (I called it to all my friends immediately) but, depending on the way it was done on TV, very entertaining. I am hoping for a short Benoit/Edge title feud after Edge defeats Batista at Judgement (just a preditcion) and after Benoit drops the US strap to Kane (just a wish). We'll see what comes of this but whatever leads up to a Kennedy/Edge feud on a main PPV like Summerslam is OK in my book.

Edge is no doubt the top heel in the E right now, arguably even with H healthy.

I'm guessing it'll be Edge v. Matt Hardy at Judgment Day(just a quick feud to give Edge something since the rest of the faces are busy)...plus they have a natural storyline with their past

Then Benoit will be freed up after losing the title to MVP at Judgment Day(an assumption, not fact), so then Edge and Benoit can feud for a PPV or two for the title.

And then at that point, hopefully KK is ready to return and we can get the already highly anticipated Edge v. KK match at Summerslam.

Batista will likely be tied up with big Mark for awhile

[ILLCHILL]

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Matt Hardy? I like the guy and all, but not main event statuts for any PPV under any circumstances. Besides, isn't he tied up with the tag belts and the Cade/Murdoch storyline?

How perfect would Y2J be right about now

I would also love for Orton to jump over to Smackdown for awhile (they seem to have no problem doing that recently) for a short feud with Edge until Benoit gets freed up either.

[doncoryell]

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Matt Hardy? I like the guy and all, but not main event statuts for any PPV under any circumstances. Besides, isn't he tied up with the tag belts and the Cade/Murdoch storyline?

How perfect would Y2J be right about now

I would also love for Orton to jump over to Smackdown for awhile (they seem to have no problem doing that recently) for a short feud with Edge until Benoit gets freed up either.

I would love to see Y2J come back and bring his "c0cky attitude" gimmick with him for a feud against Edge.

I also don't see Edge's title reign being too long, about 4 or 5 months tops. There has yet to be a heel to hold a major championship like the World title or the WWE title for as long as Superstar Billy Graham did, and that was 10 months. He's still the heel with the longest World or WWE title reign.

[TJdaSportsGuy]

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There has yet to be a heel to hold a major championship like the World title or the WWE title for as long as Superstar Billy Graham did, and that was 10 months. He's still the heel with the longest World or WWE title reign.

*Cough*Triple H held it for almost 10 months back in 02/03 *Cough*

[JiggidyJames]

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*Cough*Triple H held it for almost 10 months back in 02/03 *Cough*

Graham still had the longer reign. Longest of any heel in WWWF/WWF/WWE.

[Altimus]

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Saw this yesterday on their site and I was confused and didn't bother reading it as I don't want to totally spoil it.

Kind of disappointing.

[TJdaSportsGuy]

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Graham still had the longer reign. Longest of any heel in WWWF/WWF/WWE.

Yes, but 9 months? 10 months? We're really just arguing semantics at that point, aren't we? The point is that the title is defended way more often now than it was then, so it stands to reason that the title reigns wouldn't last as long now as they did then, heel, face, or otherwise.

[JiggidyJames]

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Yes, but 9 months? 10 months? We're really just arguing semantics at that point, aren't we? The point is that the title is defended way more often now than it was then, so it stands to reason that the title reigns wouldn't last as long now as they did then, heel, face, or otherwise.

More defenses now? Really? I'm shocked!

Semantics or not, 10 months is still longer than 9 months by at least thirty days. Graham's reign was longer by about 40 days. Number of defenses was never the question, LENGTH was. Bily Graham is still the longest reigning heel champion in WWWF/WWF/WWE history. Trips and Bradshaw came close, but that's it.

[TJdaSportsGuy]

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More defenses now? Really? I'm shocked!

Semantics or not, 10 months is still longer than 9 months by at least thirty days. Graham's reign was longer by about 40 days. Number of defenses was never the question, LENGTH was. Bily Graham is still the longest reigning heel champion in WWWF/WWF/WWE history. Trips and Bradshaw came close, but that's it.

The post I was replying to though made it seem like long title reigns for heels just don't happen like they used to. We've now seen 2 examples where it still does happen, with Triple H and JBL.

[JiggidyJames]

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The post I was replying to though made it seem like long title reigns for heels just don't happen like they used to. We've now seen 2 examples where it still does happen, with Triple H and JBL.

Yeah, our signals got crossed up.

[SPTO]

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Regarding long title reigns for heels:

WWE has historically and for the most part still works on the assumption that business is better when you have a face champion on top with strong heels chasing him. It's been their M.O. ever since the 1960s. There have been a couple exceptions such as Graham, Triple H and JBL.

Also about defending titles while it is true that todays guys defend the titles more often the counter argument can be made that it cheapens the titles by having it being switched too much. At least back then when the titles DID change hands it was a HUGE deal. Oh and in the mid 70s to the early 80s there would be a Title bout on every MSG card every month. So it's not like it wasn't defended regularly.

Heck, look at Hulk Hogan who was on top during the first boom of the PPV era. He had pretty long reigns on top with the title compared to guys today and he was crazy over. So guys CAN have long runs with the belt but the competition and product has to be very good as well.