the real problem that wwe has

[NYJets]

Re: the real problem that wwe has

While its true that Steiner deserved not to be pushed much, his point is still true. Last year, RVD and Kane both had title matches. They both dominated there matches, and HHH won with interference from Flair or by cheating, which ussually puts the loser over. But they then just dropped them down, and now there both in the tag team division.

[NYJets]

Re: the real problem that wwe has

While its true that Steiner deserved not to be pushed much, his point is still true. Last year, RVD and Kane both had title matches. They both dominated there matches, and HHH won with interference from Flair or by cheating, which ussually puts the loser over. But they then just dropped them down, and now there both in the tag team division.

[EmpireWF]

Re: the real problem that wwe has

RVD and Kane could've and probably should've won the titlee but thanks to HHH's stroke, he's able to hold it and only drop it to fellow Kliq buddies. Now RVD and Kane are stuck in the pits of tag team HELL on RAW. I mean, we can only see the same freaking tag match so many times. RVD and Kane v. Lance Storm and VAL VENIS.

Poor Booker T will be the next victim. Hopefully he won't enter the pitfall of RAW's tag team division.

The real 'test' will be when it comes time for HHH to defend the belt against Goldberg. Will he dominate him and make him look like a jobber? Or will he drop it to Nash only to win it back the next month? Only time will tell.

[EmpireWF]

Re: the real problem that wwe has

RVD and Kane could've and probably should've won the titlee but thanks to HHH's stroke, he's able to hold it and only drop it to fellow Kliq buddies. Now RVD and Kane are stuck in the pits of tag team HELL on RAW. I mean, we can only see the same freaking tag match so many times. RVD and Kane v. Lance Storm and VAL VENIS.

Poor Booker T will be the next victim. Hopefully he won't enter the pitfall of RAW's tag team division.

The real 'test' will be when it comes time for HHH to defend the belt against Goldberg. Will he dominate him and make him look like a jobber? Or will he drop it to Nash only to win it back the next month? Only time will tell.

[Mr_October]

Re: the real problem that wwe has

It seemes just like WCW used to be. Had too much talent and no where to stick them.

[Mr_October]

Re: the real problem that wwe has

It seemes just like WCW used to be. Had too much talent and no where to stick them.

[TacoKid]

Re: the real problem that wwe has

Until I see HHH lose the belt to someone other than a Kliq member, I have to believe he is abusing his power.

[TacoKid]

Re: the real problem that wwe has

Until I see HHH lose the belt to someone other than a Kliq member, I have to believe he is abusing his power.

[wheels2121]

you guys all forget

vince still runs the company. He likes HHH because he likes the big, chizzled guy with mic skills as the champ, has ever since hogan. RVD will NEVER be champ, even if HHH hated steph, because he's SMALL and is AWFUL in interviews. Kane is big, but again, no mic skills. Every time they tried him as a champ, it failed.
And even if everything going on was all HHH's doing, which is not true, you forget...IT'S VINCE'S COMPANY! If he wanted RVD, Kane, Steiner, Booker or the Brooklyn Brawler to be champ, they'd be champ, no matter what HHH or steph says.

[wheels2121]

you guys all forget

vince still runs the company. He likes HHH because he likes the big, chizzled guy with mic skills as the champ, has ever since hogan. RVD will NEVER be champ, even if HHH hated steph, because he's SMALL and is AWFUL in interviews. Kane is big, but again, no mic skills. Every time they tried him as a champ, it failed.
And even if everything going on was all HHH's doing, which is not true, you forget...IT'S VINCE'S COMPANY! If he wanted RVD, Kane, Steiner, Booker or the Brooklyn Brawler to be champ, they'd be champ, no matter what HHH or steph says.

[EmpireWF]

Re: you guys all forget

What do you mean, every time they tried Kane as Champ? He only held the World Title for less than 24 hours, beating and losing it to Stone Cold.

Vince does favor the bigger guys but then again if another Bret Hart or HBK comes around, he can't deny it. But, he obviously is with RVD. He always gets the biggest pops but is stuck doing nothing. My theory is that Vince didn't "make" him and he's an ECW product and Vince is always less forward in pushing guys who were "made" in other companies..a la Booker T.

The Writing team pretty much sucks except for when Paul Heyman was on it. Everyone is a 'yes sir' man when it comes to Vince. They don't like disention which is one of the reasons Stephanie has so much power. That, and the fact that with every waking day, HHH wiesels himself into production meetings, and the such, where something he doesn't belong. Until, Vince realizes that HHH isnt good for business, we'll be stuck with him. Or, until he cheats on Stephanie, then we'll see him job to Maven on Heat!! LOL, but what are the chances of that happening?

HHH has never been a "drawing" Champion. Whenever he was, he's never made as much money as others or not even in the ballpark. Poor Chris Jericho was never given a chance to shine as World Champ because HHH just came back from his injury and ofcourse had all the steam behind him.

Only time will tell (Monday Night) what will continue to be. Will it be a pathetic Summer? or a bounce back Summer? We'll find out in the World Title match later tonight.

Atleast, that's my opinion.

[EmpireWF]

Re: you guys all forget

What do you mean, every time they tried Kane as Champ? He only held the World Title for less than 24 hours, beating and losing it to Stone Cold.

Vince does favor the bigger guys but then again if another Bret Hart or HBK comes around, he can't deny it. But, he obviously is with RVD. He always gets the biggest pops but is stuck doing nothing. My theory is that Vince didn't "make" him and he's an ECW product and Vince is always less forward in pushing guys who were "made" in other companies..a la Booker T.

The Writing team pretty much sucks except for when Paul Heyman was on it. Everyone is a 'yes sir' man when it comes to Vince. They don't like disention which is one of the reasons Stephanie has so much power. That, and the fact that with every waking day, HHH wiesels himself into production meetings, and the such, where something he doesn't belong. Until, Vince realizes that HHH isnt good for business, we'll be stuck with him. Or, until he cheats on Stephanie, then we'll see him job to Maven on Heat!! LOL, but what are the chances of that happening?

HHH has never been a "drawing" Champion. Whenever he was, he's never made as much money as others or not even in the ballpark. Poor Chris Jericho was never given a chance to shine as World Champ because HHH just came back from his injury and ofcourse had all the steam behind him.

Only time will tell (Monday Night) what will continue to be. Will it be a pathetic Summer? or a bounce back Summer? We'll find out in the World Title match later tonight.

Atleast, that's my opinion.

[wheels2121]

Re: you guys all forget

you're right about Kane, I meant every time they tried to push him at that level vs. Taker, Austin, etc.
However, you couldn't be more wrong about RVD.
He can jump around and flip, ya. But he has all the charisma of a light pole, and would be the worst champion in history.
(Think Yoko without the believabilty factor.)

[wheels2121]

Re: you guys all forget

you're right about Kane, I meant every time they tried to push him at that level vs. Taker, Austin, etc.
However, you couldn't be more wrong about RVD.
He can jump around and flip, ya. But he has all the charisma of a light pole, and would be the worst champion in history.
(Think Yoko without the believabilty factor.)

[EmpireWF]

Re: you guys all forget

In that case then, all you'd have to do with RVD is turn him heel and give him a manager. Paul Heyman could do wonders with him, I mean, look what he did with Brock and the Big Show.