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  • vernond
    MVP
    • Feb 2008
    • 1272

    #1

    Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

    I'm just curious as to who decides what legends are included in the svr games? Is it WWE or THQ? A combination of both? I'm assuming it's mostly WWE but I'm just wondering how the decision is made? It seems that the legends are all sort of random from year to year. I would think it would make more sense to have a theme to the Legends every year. One year they could go the WCW route with all the legends like Luger, Arn, Tully, Windham, Dusty, The Steiners, Road Warriors, DDP, Goldberg, etc. WWE from the 80's with Slaughter, Sheik, Snuka, JYD, Rude, Perfect, Warrior, Honky Tonk, and a million other guys. They could have the New Generation era with Razor, Diesel, Kid, old school hbk, hitman, Yokozuna, Bulldog, etc. Another obvious one would be the attitude era with Austin, Rock, Shamrock, The Outlaws, Xpac, the Nation, alt versions of Kane, Taker, Jericho. I know a lot of the guys I rattled off have been legends in the game at one point or another but I just think it would make more sense to have guys from the same era together. It's a lot cooler to have Sgt. Slaughter vs The Iron Shiek than Sgt. Slaughter vs Lex Luger or Dusty Rhodes vs Arn Anderson instead of Dusty vs. British Bulldog. Hopefully something like this can be implemented in the future.
  • Fiddy
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    • Jul 2002
    • 12675

    #2
    Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

    if they would just give us more than 50 caw spots we could do it on our own.

    i have my own classic wwf (raw), wcw (smackdown), and ecw (on both shows) in my universe right now. all 50 caws are the active wrestlers. all wwe ones are set as free agents!!
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    • Streets
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      • Aug 2004
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      #3
      Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

      I don't get why they don't just add new legends each year along with ones they already have (It'd be quite a list if they did this). It seems like a waste to go through all the work to create a new guy then just scrap him next year for someone new.

      Either way I don't personally care because I never play as legends anyway. I don't like playing matches with guys now against legends in their prime. It's weird because unless you have a time machine, these matches can't really happen.

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      • 55
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        • Mar 2006
        • 20857

        #4
        Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

        Well, since they gave us Steamboat this year I am very happy.

        The only favorites of mine yet to appear in the series are Rude and Hennig.

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        • jvalverde88
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          • Jun 2008
          • 11787

          #5
          Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

          Originally posted by 55
          Well, since they gave us Steamboat this year I am very happy.

          The only favorites of mine yet to appear in the series are Rude and Hennig.
          I believe Rude was in Smackdown vs Raw 2008. I could of sworn that I read that WWE gives THQ a list of what legends' likeness it owns and what ever legend that is not on the list THQ would have pay for the legend's likeness.
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          • jvalverde88
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            • Jun 2008
            • 11787

            #6
            Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

            Found it!

            Hey everyone, I have seen numerous posts throughout the world wide web questioning our motives for choosing specific WWE Superstars and Lege...


            Now, concerning WWE Legends. The WWE has a Legends roster that includes a list of superstars that we're allowed to use at no extra cost. A lot of the guys are on it, but there are a certain amount (and you can probably guess which ones) that aren't -- therefore we have to go out and sign them. This is like any other licensed sports game as well. How did NBA 2K11 get all of those legends in? They had the legends license, and guys who didn't fall under it, they had to sign. Sounds great if you have the money, but in some cases -- in some years, we just don't.
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            • vernond
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              • Feb 2008
              • 1272

              #7
              Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

              Originally posted by jvalverde88
              Well there it is. Thanks for finding that. I guess that would make it more difficult to do some of the same era type legends.

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              • Fiddy
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                • Jul 2002
                • 12675

                #8
                Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

                so why dont they just add everyone of those legends that they are allowed to use? they should be in the game year after year.. heck, even have a deciated mode for a universe type mode for them. old school rings, ppv's etc. they could have a full blown wwe current and wwf old school all in one game.
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                • The GIGGAS
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                  • Mar 2003
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                  #9
                  Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

                  Originally posted by Fiddy
                  so why dont they just add everyone of those legends that they are allowed to use? they should be in the game year after year.. heck, even have a deciated mode for a universe type mode for them. old school rings, ppv's etc. they could have a full blown wwe current and wwf old school all in one game.
                  Firstly, like all things, our superstar list comes down to budget and timing. At the beginning of pre-production, we have a list (based on the features we want to do), of guys we want to have in our game. In development, there is creative and project management. Creative handles exactly that, the creative (that's me). Project Management handles the timing and budget for our game (that's not me). Where was I? Oh yeah, once we have a list of superstars we want in game (which is usually like everyone), we submit it to our Project Management team so that they can scope it. What that means is that they take our list, and then breakdown how much each superstar would cost (in real money) to model. Once that is done, they get back to us with a high-level estimate of how much it will cost to create each model, and how much time it will take.

                  We then take a look at those estimates, and of course we're way over scope (time and money), so we have to make cuts. There's not back and forth here, we make an annual title, and our numbers (budget and time) have to be met. So, in order to cut we're told that we can have (for example) 105 models in the game. Here's the thing though, alternate attires, referees, WWE Security, Non playable characters (Stephanie, Tiffany, etc.) and WWE Legends all count as models. Every alternate attire we have, counts as one model each.
                  Should explain your question.
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                  • Streets
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                    • Aug 2004
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                    #10
                    Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

                    Originally posted by Fiddy
                    so why dont they just add everyone of those legends that they are allowed to use? they should be in the game year after year.. heck, even have a deciated mode for a universe type mode for them. old school rings, ppv's etc. they could have a full blown wwe current and wwf old school all in one game.

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                    • Fiddy
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 12675

                      #11
                      Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

                      Originally posted by The GIGGAS
                      Should explain your question.
                      wow, alt attires act as models. dang, no wonder these guys only have like one attire. sigh. then get rid of civilian cloths please.

                      Originally posted by Streets
                      that game was very soff. i had it!! it was awesome being able to bring over the smackdown vs raw roster, it was not so awesome that each wrestler had like 4 moves. bah!!

                      thank god for no mercy and emulators..
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                      • 55
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                        • Mar 2006
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                        #12
                        Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

                        Originally posted by Streets
                        That game was beyond awful.

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                        • Streets
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                          • Aug 2004
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                          #13
                          Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

                          Originally posted by 55
                          That game was beyond awful.
                          I never played it, but that sounds like the concept that he wants.

                          I'll take the biggest jobber that's still on the roster right now over any legend.

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                          • adembroski
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5829

                            #14
                            Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

                            I would much rather they go in this order of preference...

                            #1: Active WWE roster, everybody
                            #2: Staff and authority figures
                            #3: Past gimmicks for current roster
                            #4: Legends

                            I'd rather have rapping Cena or Hunter Hearst Helmsley than Dusty Rhodes or Rick Rude. Not that I don't appreciate that Rhodes and Rude are outstanding wrestlers, some of the greatest of all time, but they simply don't fit in my "WWE Universe" because they're not active.

                            Get the complete current roster before legends. That's my humble opinion. Put the Legends in WWE All Stars or make a legends specific version of Smackdown vs. Raw (with an extensive enough roster and a WWE Universe including Raw, Smackdown, ECW (Heyman's), and Nitro, yes, I'd buy that too).
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                            • DontHateOnNumber2
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                              • Jan 2005
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                              #15
                              Re: Who Decides What Legends to Include in SVR?

                              Get rid of the civilian clothes? They're only in there due to the storylines..leave them in. I feel it makes it more authentic. Normally I don't care for the Legends included, but this year's crop was pretty sweet. I've had Legends matches online. Playing as Austin or Rock, against Austin or Rock lol, I'm undefeated. For now haha. I do love the Snuka and Steamboat inclusions. If only Piper was thrown in there. To be honest, I'd rather Vince be left out of every game...maybe then we could've had a playable Hurricane.

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