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  • 55
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 20857

    #1

    My Universe Mode simulation idea...

    So, I got to the end of the year in Universe Mode (TLC PPV) and decided to see how real this played out with a fresh, realistic start.

    The first thing I did was remove ALL alliances and rivalries. I made sure everyone in the game was on their correct brand and made everyone else free agents. I also put both women's titles on McCool, stuck her on Raw and made every other Diva a free agent so there wouldn't be any Divas matches cluttering up the cards.

    This is how I started the rosters...

    Raw:

    CM Punk - boo
    David Hart Smith - cheer - Unified Tag Team Champion
    Evan Bourne - cheer
    Ezekiel Jackson - boo
    Goldust - cheer
    John Cena - cheer
    John Morrison - cheer
    Mark Henry - cheer
    The Miz - boo - United States Champion
    Primo - boo
    R-Truth - cheer
    Randy Orton - cheer - WWE Champion
    Santino Marella - cheer
    Sheamus - boo
    Ted DiBiase - boo - Million Dollar Champion
    Triple H - cheer
    Tyson Kidd - cheer - Unified Tag Team Champion
    Vladimir Kozlov - cheer
    William Regal - boo
    Yoshi Tatsu - cheer
    Zack Ryder - boo

    That's 21 guys in all, 13 faces and 8 heels.

    -

    SmackDown:

    Big Show - cheer
    Chavo Guerrero - boo
    Chris Masters - cheer
    Christian - cheer
    Cody Rhodes - boo
    Dolph Ziggler - boo - Intercontinental Champion
    Drew McIntyre - boo
    Edge - cheer
    Finlay - cheer
    Jack Swagger - boo
    JTG - cheer
    Kane - boo - World Heavyweight Champion
    Kofi Kingston - cheer
    Luke Gallows - boo
    MVP - cheer
    Rey Mysterio - cheer
    Shad Gaspard - boo
    Undertaker - cheer
    Vance Archer - boo

    That's 19 guys in all, 10 faces and 9 heels.

    -

    Tag teams that I started out with:

    Hart Dynasty
    Bourne & Henry
    Santino & Kozlov
    Rhodes & McIntyre
    Morrison & Truth

    -

    The first major discrepancy I noticed was that Raw is far too face heavy and lacks heels while SmackDown is perfectly balanced. I am hoping that the game will compensate for this with some heel turns, bu who knows? If it doesn't balance out I can always do a small draft after Extreme Rules like the actual WWE does to try and even things out a bit.

    I am going to be simming Raw, Superstars and SmackDown and playing all of the PPV matches and randomly selecting who I choose.

    Let's see how this works out...
    Last edited by 55; 11-10-2010, 06:11 PM.
  • 55
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 20857

    #2
    Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

    Royal Rumble results:

    1- Intercontinental Championship match:
    Dolph Ziggler (c) defeated Kofi Kingston via submission (Sleeper Hold)

    2- United States Championship match:
    The Miz (c) defeated Ezekiel Jackson via pin (Skull Crushing Finale)


    3- Unified Tag Team Championship match:
    Hart Dynasty (c) defeated Bourne & Henry via submission (Sharpshooter)


    4- Fatal 4 Way match for the WWE Championship:
    Randy Orton (c) defeated John Cena, Triple H & CM Punk via pin (Punt)

    5- World Heavyweight Championship match:
    Undertaker defeated Kane (c) via pin (Tombstone)

    6- Royal Rumble match:
    Jack Swagger defeated 29 other men for a championship match at WrestleMania

    -

    January happenings:

    Title changes: 1 - Undertaker is new World Heavyweight Champion

    Face/Heel turns: None

    Tag teams formed/disbanded: 1 - Morrison and Truth disbanded amicably

    Important new rivalries:

    Undertaker/Kane
    Ziggler/Kingston
    Swagger/Mysterio
    Morrison/Miz
    Christian/Archer
    Cena/Jackson

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    • evilc08
      Pro
      • May 2008
      • 187

      #3
      Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

      Thanks for doing this. Interested to see the results as they go. I am building an old school universe so I may not start it for another month. Still need to create and find the wrestlers.

      With all the time it can take to make a good CAW, I am hoping the universe will hold up its end of the bargain. Then just hope there is some type of patch to fix the pin issue. I always wait for hitting a finisher in every match. Just a shame I know that the pin is an automatic 3 count.

      I look forward to see how this turns out. It may not be perfect, but this mode adds so much more over last year's version.
      Last edited by evilc08; 11-10-2010, 05:21 PM.
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      • 55
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 20857

        #4
        Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

        Elimination Chamber results:

        1- Intercontinental Championship match:
        Dolph Ziggler (c) defeated MVP via pin (Zig Zag)

        2- Unified Tag Team Championship match:
        Hart Dynasty (c) defeated Santino & Kozlov via submission (Sharpshooter)

        3- Singles match:
        William Regal defeated Mark Henry via pin (Knee Trembler)

        4- WWE Championship match:
        John Cena defeated Randy Orton (c) via pin (Attitude Adjustment)

        5- Elimination Chamber match for the United States Championship:
        John Morrison defeated Primo, Ted DiBiase, Ezekiel Jackson, Triple H & The Miz (c) via pin (Starship Pain)

        6- Elimination Chamber match for the World Heavyweight Championship:
        Undertaker (c) defeated Edge, Jack Swagger, Kane, Chavo Guerrero & Big Show via pin (Tombstone)

        -

        February happenings:

        Title changes: 2 - John Cena is new WWE Champion & John Morrison is new United States Champion

        Face/heel turns: None.

        Tag teams formed/disbanded: None.

        Important new rivalries:

        Cena/Triple H
        Bourne & Henry/Santino & Kozlov
        MVP/Shad
        Finlay/Chavo
        Ryder/Goldust
        Regal/Henry

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        • 55
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 20857

          #5
          Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

          Originally posted by evilc08
          Thanks for doing this. Interested to see the results as they go. I am building an old school universe so I may not start it for another month. Still need to create and find the wrestlers.

          With all the time it can take to make a good CAW, I am hoping the universe will hold up its end of the bargain. Then just hope there is some type of patch to fix the pin issue. I always wait for hitting a finisher in every match. Just a shame I know that the pin is an automatic 3 count.

          I look forward to see how this turns out. It may not be perfect, but this mode adds so much more over last year's version.
          Thanks, man. I just wanted to see for myself how this mode really shapes up and just figured I would share my results with everyone else as either a comparison for those already playing the game/mode or a little of what to expect for those who haven't yet.

          I play on Legend difficulty with default sliders and I get a LOT of 2 counts, bot for myself and the CPU. I play all of the PPV matches that I list but I am deliberately not telling you guys who I controlled just for the sake of the experiment, kayfabe, etc. I do randomly pick which wrestler I use for each match though buy flipping a coin for the heads up matches and rolling a die for the Elimination Chamber and MitB matches. I use other methods for matches with between 3 and 5 wrestlers involved.

          I'd say I win about 90% of my singles matches on Legend when I am facing an opponent of lesser skill, about 60% when I am facing an opponent with equal skill and about 40% when facing an opponent with superior skill. That's just singles matches though, anything with more than one opponent is much tougher to win.
          Last edited by 55; 11-10-2010, 06:35 PM.

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          • 55
            Banned
            • Mar 2006
            • 20857

            #6
            Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

            Originally posted by 55
            5- Elimination Chamber match for the United States Championship:
            John Morrison defeated Primo, Ted DiBiase, Ezekiel Jackson, Triple H & The Miz (c) via pin (Starship Pain)

            6- Elimination Chamber match for the World Heavyweight Championship:
            Undertaker (c) defeated Edge, Jack Swagger, Kane, Chavo Guerrero & Big Show via pin (Tombstone)
            Those aren't typos by the way. It was weird seeing Triple H in the midcard match and Chavo in the main event match. If their places were traded then everything would have been pretty much "sim" so to speak.

            In fact, after double checking neither guy is even a top 10 contender for the belt in which they wrestled for.

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            • 55
              Banned
              • Mar 2006
              • 20857

              #7
              Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

              WrestleMania results:

              1- Money In The Bank Ladder match:
              Ezekiel Jackson defeated R-Truth, Shad Gaspard, Luke Gallows, Vladimir Kozlov & Chavo Guerrero

              2- Unified Tag Team Championship match:
              Hart Dynasty (c) defeated Bourne & Henry via submission (Sharpshooter)

              3- Non-title match:
              Primo defeated John Morrison via count out

              4- WWE Championship match:
              John Cena (c) defeated Triple H via submission (STF)

              5- Non-title match:
              Undertaker defeated Kane via pin (Tombstone)

              6- World Heavyweight Championship match:
              Undertaker (c) defeated Jack Swagger via pin (Tombstone)

              -

              March happenings:

              Title changes: None.

              Face/heel turns: None.

              Tag teams formed/disbanded: None.

              Important new rivalries:

              Punk/Triple H
              Sheamus/Triple H
              Cena/Miz
              Edge/Ziggler
              Ziggler/Mysterio
              Kane/Christian

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              • 55
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 20857

                #8
                Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

                I have to say I was rather disappointed by the CPU generated card for WrestleMania. Just look at the MitB match. None of those guys should have been in the match when a lot of better guys were left off of the card altogether. Plus, what's up with the odd non-title match between Morrison & Primo? The Miz is still the #1 contender for the US title so why not have them wrestle instead? It just doesn't make sense to me.

                The biggest gaffe is the CPU booking the Undertaker twice. First in a non-title match against Kane and second in a WHC match against Swagger. Now the match against Swagger makes perfect sense since he won the Royal Rumble and earned a shot at the title, but the bout against Kane makes no sense whatsoever. I am thinking that the CPU just books Taker in a match at WM no matter what and glitches him into two matches if he happens to be holding a world championship. Strange, but I hope this can be fixed with a patch.

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                • jeremym480
                  Speak it into existence
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 18198

                  #9
                  Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

                  ^^ That is strange. Hopefully, it will get fixed via patch.

                  As of now, I've been playing every match in my Universe. I've been playing the game "straight out of the box"- with no adjustments what-so ever. If I see something strange (matcup wise) then I just chose custom match and make my adjustments accordingly. It's not ideal but, I'm having a blast so far.
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                  • DJ
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 17756

                    #10
                    Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

                    Originally posted by 55
                    I have to say I was rather disappointed by the CPU generated card for WrestleMania. Just look at the MitB match. None of those guys should have been in the match when a lot of better guys were left off of the card altogether. Plus, what's up with the odd non-title match between Morrison & Primo? The Miz is still the #1 contender for the US title so why not have them wrestle instead? It just doesn't make sense to me.

                    The biggest gaffe is the CPU booking the Undertaker twice. First in a non-title match against Kane and second in a WHC match against Swagger. Now the match against Swagger makes perfect sense since he won the Royal Rumble and earned a shot at the title, but the bout against Kane makes no sense whatsoever. I am thinking that the CPU just books Taker in a match at WM no matter what and glitches him into two matches if he happens to be holding a world championship. Strange, but I hope this can be fixed with a patch.
                    Yeah, that was weird to see 'Taker wrestling twice. Keep posting results, I'm enjoying seeing how this unveils.
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                    • Streets
                      Supreme
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 5787

                      #11
                      Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

                      Originally posted by 55
                      I also put both women's titles on McCool, stuck her on Raw and made every other Diva a free agent so there wouldn't be any Divas matches cluttering up the cards.
                      This is the best thing I got in this thread. Genius idea.

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                      • 55
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 20857

                        #12
                        Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

                        Originally posted by Streets
                        This is the best thing I got in this thread. Genius idea.
                        Thanks, man. I'm four months into my Universe and have had ZERO Diva matches which is FLAWLESS!

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                        • Jukeman
                          Showtime
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 10955

                          #13
                          Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

                          The AI will always put Taker in the "Streak" match at WM

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                          • 55
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 20857

                            #14
                            Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

                            Backlash results:

                            1- United States Championship match:
                            John Morrison (c) defeated The Miz via pin (Starship Pain)

                            2- Unified Tag Team Championship match:
                            Hart Dynasty (c) defeated Santino & Kozlov via submission (Sharpshooter)

                            3- Triple Threat match for the Intercontinental Championship:
                            Christian defeated Shad Gaspard & Dolph Ziggler (c) via pin (Killswitch)

                            4- Singles match:
                            Yoshi Tatsu defeated Zack Ryder via disqualification

                            5- Last Man Standing match for the World Heavyweight Championship:
                            Undertaker (c) defeated Rey Mysterio via KO (Last Ride on the entrance ramp)

                            6- Triple Threat match for the WWE Championship:
                            John Cena (c) defeated Triple H & CM Punk via submission (STF)

                            -

                            April happenings:

                            Title changes: 1 - Christian is new Intercontinental Champion

                            Face/heel turns: None.

                            Tag teams formed/disbanded: 1 - Rhodes & McIntyre disbanded amicably

                            Important new rivalries:

                            Punk/Cena
                            Undertaker/Mysterio
                            Kane/Kofi
                            McIntyre/Kofi
                            Rhodes/Kofi
                            Regal/Yoshi

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                            • 55
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 20857

                              #15
                              Re: My Universe Mode simulation idea...

                              Before I sim the month of May, I am contemplating whether or I should do a small draft. What do you guys think? They're aren't enough heels on Raw and there are zero tag teams on SmackDown.

                              In fact, there are only three tag teams at all anymore and they are all on Raw and are all crowd favorites. This will leave the division a little stale, so to speak.

                              Any thoughts or opinions on what I should do?

                              If I did have a draft, what I would to is write down the names of every Raw superstar without a belt on little pieces of paper and put them into a hat. Then I would so the same for the guys on SmackDown. I would then draw 4 names out of the Raw hat and 3 out of the SmackDown hat and those guys would trade shows. The reason I would send one additional guy to SmackDown from Raw would be to balance out the rosters at 20 guys per show instead of the 21/19 ratio I have now.

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