WWE 12 Retail Early Impressions

[ctr05]

Ahhh gotcha. I'll have to give that a try when I get the game. When you check on the undisputed title could you also check to see if you can put the women's title on both brands? i know you can for the diva's title but i REALLY hate that belt.

[jrider99]

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So how easy is it to push a main eventer down to midcard status? Do you have to have them lose alot of matches so their momentum goes down or something? Or will the guys with the highest overalls be main eventers regardless?

It seems that momentum has a lot to do with it. When I first started, Cena lost a couple of matches early and was totally out of the title picture for a month or two. At the same time, I have seen borderline main eventers like Barrett get bumped all the way down to Superstars.

What I haven't seen though, thankfully, is legit main-event guys get shipped off to Superstars.

I've seen guys like Triple H and Christian involved in the minor championship picture, which is kinda cool once in a while, but for the most part the rankings seem to reflect a person's overall rating -- in other words, I haven't seen the same top guys listed as No. 1 contenders for both belts at the same time. The top guys chase the major belts and the mid-carders go after the minor title. I haven't seen anything in this regard that concerns me.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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It seems that momentum has a lot to do with it. When I first started, Cena lost a couple of matches early and was totally out of the title picture for a month or two. At the same time, I have seen borderline main eventers like Barrett get bumped all the way down to Superstars.

What I haven't seen though, thankfully, is legit main-event guys get shipped off to Superstars.

I've seen guys like Triple H and Christian involved in the minor championship picture, which is kinda cool once in a while, but for the most part the rankings seem to reflect a person's overall rating -- in other words, I haven't seen the same top guys listed as No. 1 contenders for both belts at the same time. The top guys chase the major belts and the mid-carders go after the minor title. I haven't seen anything in this regard that concerns me.

I remember people complaining last year that they would use a mid card guy or CAW for months and win consistently but they would never get into the top 10 in the rankings for a major title. I know you can edit in wrestlers for a title match but can you edit him in a match for a major title if the mid carder or CAW you are using is not ranked in the top 10?

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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Awesome. So at least there is still a workaround. Crazy that they'd let a glitch like that slip by two years running. It seems like something pretty prominent someone would notice.

Thank you so much for checking this, mate. I really appreciate it.

On a related note if I import a CAW from the community do I get their custom music as well or is that on me to do.

[jrider99]

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I remember people complaining last year that they would use a mid card guy or CAW for months and win consistently but they would never get into the top 10 in the rankings for a major title. I know you can edit in wrestlers for a title match but can you edit him in a match for a major title if the mid carder or CAW you are using is not ranked in the top 10?

Yeah, you can put anyone in a title match at any time as far as I know.

[jrider99]

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On a related note if I import a CAW from the community do I get their custom music as well or is that on me to do.

I think you're on your own as far as music goes. Not sure if you would get it if they selected one of the tracks included on the disc. There aren't any up for download (obviously) so I can't check on it yet.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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Yeah, you can put anyone in a title match at any time as far as I know.

Niiiiiice. Can you edit rankings as well to put your own guy in there or is that completely controlled by the universe?

BTW jrider you respond quickly. I may have to nominate you as for poster of the year simply for how thorough you have been the last few days. As you can see that's my devious way in getting preferential treatment in my queries being answered promptly. (ie:Cheap pop)

[TheYankeeKiller]

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BTW jrider you respond quickly. I may have to nominate you as for poster of the year simply for how thorough you have been the last few days. As you can see that's my devious way in getting preferential treatment in my queries being answered promptly. (ie:Cheap pop)

That makes you the Mick Foley of Operation Sports.

More importantly, I agree, JRider has gone above and beyond, and then some. Thanks, dude!

[jrider99]

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Niiiiiice. Can you edit rankings as well to put your own guy in there or is that completely controlled by the universe?

BTW jrider you respond quickly. I may have to nominate you as for poster of the year simply for how thorough you have been the last few days. As you can see that's my devious way in getting preferential treatment in my queries being answered promptly. (ie:Cheap pop)

Rankings are controlled by the Universe and can't be editted. But with the ability to book your own title matches, they really don't matter anyway.

And thanks for the kind words. I'll remember them fondly when you guys hate the game and come back here next week blaming me for making you buy it LOL

[jrider99]

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Ahhh gotcha. I'll have to give that a try when I get the game. When you check on the undisputed title could you also check to see if you can put the women's title on both brands? i know you can for the diva's title but i REALLY hate that belt.

OK, I'm not quite sure what you guys want to know about the Undisputed title, but I can tell you that you can assign that championship to be the major title for both brands. Same goes for the women's championship.

[jrider99]

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While checking on the Undisputed title, I noticed what may be an issue for some. When a title is shared between brands, all members of those brands appear on both shows. I had noticed this with the tag teams and divas, but wrote it off to there being such a small pool of talent in each of those divisions.

But once I made the Undisputed Championship the major title for both Raw and Smackdown, the brand split ended and people from both brands began appearing in the rankings for the Undisputed title.

I checked and the rosters hadn't changed, so this is either a bug or an intended consequence to sharing one title between brands. I'm not sure which.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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Rankings are controlled by the Universe and can't be editted. But with the ability to book your own title matches, they really don't matter anyway.

And thanks for the kind words. I'll remember them fondly when you guys hate the game and come back here next week blaming me for making you buy it LOL

As long as gameplay is an improvement and we can further tweak it thru edits and sliders then I'll be quite satisfied. I know alot of people will get thier shorts in a knot about attire or why a belt doesn't look 100% accurate and other cosmetic stuff like that but I could care less if the gameplay and AI challenge is there and there are no big bugs in universe.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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While checking on the Undisputed title, I noticed what may be an issue for some. When a title is shared between brands, all members of those brands appear on both shows. I had noticed this with the tag teams and divas, but wrote it off to there being such a small pool of talent in each of those divisions.

But once I made the Undisputed Championship the major title for both Raw and Smackdown, the brand split ended and people from both brands began appearing in the rankings for the Undisputed title.

I checked and the rosters hadn't changed, so this is either a bug or an intended consequence to sharing one title between brands. I'm not sure which.

I don't really watch much wrestling these days so I'm not sure how this brand stuff works in every detail but isn't it logical for the undisputed title for both brands have wrestlers from both brands to appear in the rankings? If it only had rankings from one brand then it's not really a major title for both or am I missing something here?

[ctr05]

OK, I'm not quite sure what you guys want to know about the Undisputed title, but I can tell you that you can assign that championship to be the major title for both brands. Same goes for the women's championship.

Yeah that's what I wanted to know, if the Undisputed and Women's titles could be on both Raw and Smackdown in their respective slots. thanks!!

[ctr05]

While checking on the Undisputed title, I noticed what may be an issue for some. When a title is shared between brands, all members of those brands appear on both shows. I had noticed this with the tag teams and divas, but wrote it off to there being such a small pool of talent in each of those divisions.

But once I made the Undisputed Championship the major title for both Raw and Smackdown, the brand split ended and people from both brands began appearing in the rankings for the Undisputed title.

I checked and the rosters hadn't changed, so this is either a bug or an intended consequence to sharing one title between brands. I'm not sure which.

Yeah, that seems about right. If the Undisputed Title is the major title for both Raw and Smackdown then naturally the ratings would be a mix of both rosters. Same for other divisions as well. if the Women's Title is in the Diva slot for both shows then the rankings would be combined there too. If you decided to seperate the titles again (say, WCW Championship for Raw/Nitro and World Heavyweight for Smackdown, and Women's for Raw/Nitro and Diva's for Smackdown) the ratings would split again.