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  • rangersfan30
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    • Nov 2007
    • 990

    #136
    Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

    Originally posted by Dayman
    This segment is ****ing great.

    It's like Kane is standing on Cena's shoulder, trying to get him to embrace his inner evil.
    Yeah definitely.

    I just think some dont get it, Kane using psychology to get to Cena. I like where this is going.

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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #137
      Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

      Great Ending

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      • Cutter15
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        • Oct 2010
        • 1770

        #138
        Kane's always had a twisted sense of reality and Cena knows that. This more than likely won't end in anything other than a PPV win for Cena heading into Wrestlemania.
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        • soltrain
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          • Feb 2003
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          #139
          Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

          Originally posted by Cutter15
          Kane's always had a twisted sense of reality and Cena knows that. This more than likely won't end in anything other than a PPV win for Cena heading into Wrestlemania.
          Nah. I think they are actually going through with it this time.
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          • Segagendude
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            • Aug 2008
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            #140
            Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

            Originally posted by Dayman
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            • areobee401
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2006
              • 16771

              #141
              Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

              Nikki Bella was the highlight of RAW tonight. Had a Cam Newton smirk on my face watching that segment.
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              • BDKiiing
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                • Jun 2008
                • 9334

                #142
                Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

                and nobody deliever with the what time is it?
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                thanks guys...
                Also glad to see others join in on
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                overall not a bad raw, would have loved to see Funkhauser vs. Punkster, but Ziggs vs. Punk will be a swell match to have.

                A little ackward having Kane become Cena's therapist, when I thought he was just his dentist.

                Bellas are still hot.
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                • ubernoob
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                  • Jul 2004
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                  #143
                  I loved Kanes promo. I was like hooray this has a dark twist to it. Like ministry Taker (I still scared of him) and such. I think having some darkness is always good.

                  Maybe the promos are for
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                  • Redacted01
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 10316

                    #144
                    Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

                    Originally posted by Gizmo
                    WWE just wasted a show that could have been great in Chicago. Of course, you can't replicate MITB but this show just sucked. Kane talking is like Nash talking. Only thing that was good was the Ziggler/Punk match and what they have set up for these two.
                    Do... what? Did you just compare Nash's f ups on the mic to Kane's great monologue? Just because Kane speaks slowly so people can attempt to understand him doesn't make it bad.

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                    • TheMatrix31
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52926

                      #145
                      That was a pretty good show. Props. Loved the opening, and especially enjoyed the Ziggler surprise win. Didn't figure that at all. I don't want a title change very soon though so I hope it doesn't happen. He is bad *** though.

                      I hate when Cena does that historical recap stuff. Like, okay bro, we were watching...

                      But man, oh man, oh man. The ending to RAW was ****ing fantastic. And what they're doing absolutely clicked in my mind, and it works. So damn good. It is great. I'm seriously very, very happy with this. Cena is looking into a mirror. Kane is the manifestation of his thoughts. We hate Cena, everyone talks about the hate, he talks about rising above hate, yada yada. Well, Kane was right about all the things he said. He is the demon within Cena. And Cena is fighting himself. The music hits and he stands out on stage and Kane makes the stage blow up one more time, signifying a mental barrier for Cena.

                      I may be reading too much into it but holy hell. ****ing bad ***.

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                      • Cutter15
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                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1770

                        #146
                        Good analysis. I honestly don't give a crap what this leads to as long as Kane keeps the mask and horror movie villain demeanor for the duration of his career. I got bored with "regular guy" Kane a couple of weeks after he took off the mask. Between that and Taker's short hair, I stayed away from wrestling during those days. It's just nice to see something I loved as a kid make a comeback.
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                        • rangersfan30
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                          • Nov 2007
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                          #147
                          Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

                          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                          That was a pretty good show. Props. Loved the opening, and especially enjoyed the Ziggler surprise win. Didn't figure that at all. I don't want a title change very soon though so I hope it doesn't happen. He is bad *** though.

                          I hate when Cena does that historical recap stuff. Like, okay bro, we were watching...

                          But man, oh man, oh man. The ending to RAW was ****ing fantastic. And what they're doing absolutely clicked in my mind, and it works. So damn good. It is great. I'm seriously very, very happy with this. Cena is looking into a mirror. Kane is the manifestation of his thoughts. We hate Cena, everyone talks about the hate, he talks about rising above hate, yada yada. Well, Kane was right about all the things he said. He is the demon within Cena. And Cena is fighting himself. The music hits and he stands out on stage and Kane makes the stage blow up one more time, signifying a mental barrier for Cena.

                          I may be reading too much into it but holy hell. ****ing bad ***.
                          The way the WWE is going with the whole Cena-Kane thing to me is perfect, Watching Cena i get the vibe where it comes off like the Rock said in his promo where he buried Cena.

                          "I'll talk to you like this until you like me, Please just like me."

                          This is not a dig at Cena, To me he is playing this whole thing perfectly. Even though i am not a Cena fan you have to give him credit for his part in this.

                          I thought Kane's promo was brilliant, Slow and methodical and somewhat creepy and when you add the fans being split on Cena and Cena obvious inner conflict then you can't help but be locked into where the story is going.

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                          • ChaseB
                            #BringBackFaceuary
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 9844

                            #148
                            Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

                            Last night's show was full of awesome.

                            Good crowds = good shows, but there were also good story development and some good wrasslin'
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                            • Segagendude
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                              • Aug 2008
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                              #149
                              Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

                              Originally posted by ChaseB
                              Last night's show was full of awesome.

                              Good crowds = good shows, but there were also good story development and some good wrasslin'

                              Yes, the crowd was simply outstanding.......especially when Punk came out. That was to be expected, though, being it's his hometown. But overall, decent show. Now I'm actually looking forward to next week (I'm off from work) to see what happens next w/ Cena and Kane (My guess is Cena slowly turns heel), as well as the "It Begins" revelation.......

                              Haven't anticipated the next Raw this much since the Nexus invasion, lol....

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                              • ChaseB
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                                • Oct 2003
                                • 9844

                                #150
                                Re: Raw 12/26/11 - The loser now will be later to win,for the times they are a changi

                                I still don't think they're turning Cena heel or anything, but still interested to watch for that. Plus "It Begins" ends and Dolph vs. Punk. That's a whole bunch of awesome.

                                PS, I still can't believe how much better John L. is now.
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