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  • BenGerman
    No Place Better
    • Sep 2008
    • 2752

    #1

    Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

    Hey guys, I've gotten a couple messages from people asking me about my Universe, and some of the ways I try and run it. For those of you who frequent the "Official: How's your Universe going?" thread, you know that I use a star based rating system on both my matches and episodes. I also have a few other "House Rules" some of you may be interested in. Hopefully some of you guys can get some useful info out of this. Mods, let me know if I'm posting this in the wrong place.

    House Rules

    User Booking: My best advice is to go with your instinct. Personally, I hate when someone like CM Punk gets booked with Health Slater, so the first thing I do is think ahead to the next PPV. Do I want to give Punk a push, or do I want to give him a feud outside of the belt? Say I want Punk to feud with Edge. The first thing I do is go to both wrestlers, give them a high intensity rivalry with each other. If I'm not pressed for time, (say 4 full weeks until Money in the Bank) I set CM Punk in a respectable match up, and its only a matter of time before we'll see Edge get in on the action somehow. After that, the CPU is generally pretty good at running the feud so I'll typically just let it go from there. If you're more pressed for time, go ahead and pair the two of them in a match, where sparks are inevitably going to fly between the two.

    Have a free slot on one of your cards? Let the CPU do its thing and see what comes of it. My best feud thus far came from an Orton/Kane match that was booked by the CPU. It was about 6 weeks before Wrestlemania, and towards the end of the match, the place went blue and Undertaker appeared (Undertaker had a low-intensity rivalry with Orton, and a nice alliance with Kane) officially kicking off the Orton/Undertaker feud that lasted me 3 months, and literally just ended last night during my Over the Limit title belt match between the two.

    User Controlled Matches: A lot to say here, so I'll just give a rundown of how I go about this.
    • Don't be afraid to make the Universe yours. What I mean by this, is take full control of the match if you're going to control one of the Superstars. Want Daniel Bryan to run away from Big Show, DQ'ing himself but holding the belt? Control Daniel Bryan, grab the belt, and run away.
    • Another good example of this came from a recent triple threat steel-cage match I had with Christian/Edge/and Ziggler. Edge and Christian have an allience, and Ziggler and Christian have a rivalry. The match eventually got to the point where Edge and Dolph were climbing out of the cage at the same time, and Christian (who I was controlling) had the option of pulling one of the two down. I decided to pull down Dolph, and give Edge the belt which was a testimate to the alliance Edge and Christian had.
    • Sometimes, I'll know who I want to retain and who I want to lose before the match. For example, during my Wrestlemania match between Taker/Orton, I controlled Orton. I was able to put on a great match, but in the end, I never really had any intention of Undertaker losing the streak to Orton. After Undertaker's second Tombstone on Orton (me), I all but conceded the match, and let Orton get pinned.
    • Gameplay wise, I do a few things too.
    • If the CPU reverses a move of mine, I let them do their grapple before I attempt any reversals.
    • I only attempt one Reversel per CPU chain of attacks. This restarts after the CPU has done a grapple move.
    • In Last Man Standing matches, I only begin attempts at kicking out after 5 counts.
    • I win about 60% of the time, so typically I choose who I'd like to win the match.
    • This type of advice is pretty rhetorical, but don't let yourself cheese (over use of taunts, running attacks all match, etc).


    Sliders & Gameplay Options


    Rating Changes:
    • All Superstars/Divas recovery down to 0 (allows for better Triple Threat/Steel Cage/Ladder Matches)
    • Charisma up 5 (more cutscenes?)


    Gameplay:
    • Legendary difficulty
    • CPU Grapple all at 2
    • Human Grapple all at 0
    • Finisher Strength at maximum
    • Object Strength at maximum
    • Finisher Reversel at maximum
    • Object Reversel at default


    Match Ratings

    • I use a star based system on a scale of 1* to 5*'s.
    • At the end of each episode, I take an average of the match ratings a put them together. However, sometimes I'll exclude a really bad match if the rest of the episode has been really good (looking at you Diva matches).

    Time: There are some exceptions here, for example if I'm playing an Undertaker Wrestlemania match, I'd be disappointed if it wasn't in that 20-30 minute range, so I don't take off for that.

    1-3 minutes (no *'s)
    3-10 minutes (half *)
    10-20 minutes (full *)
    20-30 minutes (half *)
    30+ minutes (no *'s)

    Finishers: Again, there are exceptions here. I wouldn't mind seeing Triple H put 3 pedigrees on someone (Example- Undertaker in Wrestlemania 27) and have them kick out. But I don't want one wrestler having 3/4 finishers and the other wrestler not having one at all.

    0-1 Finishers, or 2 Finishers from same wrestler (no *'s)
    2 finishers (one each, half *)
    3-4 finishers (full *)
    5+ finishers (no *'s)

    Matchup: Sometimes just seeing Triple H face Shawn Michaels is enough for me to reward the match a star.

    0-1 Superstars, mid-carders or below (no *'s)
    2 Superstars, or contenders (half *)
    1-2 Legends or belt-holders (full *)
    Return Superstar, Ex: Jericho (full *)

    Match Execution: This one is pretty subjective, but I usually just go by botches, glitches, etc. Basically just based on the fluidity of matches.

    5+ botches/glitches (no *'s)
    3-4 botches/glitches (half *)
    0-2 botches/glitches (full *)

    Intangibles: Another category thats pretty subjective. Sometimes I'll see something really cool happen, or an interesting cut-scene will take place. Sometimes a great match will take place, but nothing out of the ordinary happens. For example, if you were to read my post under Extreme Rules, Undertaker and Orton had a first-blood match in which Undertaker got punted in the face (no blood), Orton got tombstoned and put through a table (no blood) and Undertaker finally got RKO'd from the top of a ladder where blood was finally drawn. That is something that can bump a well executed match into legendary status for me.
    Writer for Operation Sports

    Gamertag (Xbox One): Bengerman 1031
    PSN Name: BadNewsBen

    Twitter: @BadNewsBenV
    Twitch: www.Twitch.TV/Bengerman10
  • EAGLESFAN10
    MVP
    • Nov 2011
    • 2338

    #2
    Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

    Hey man I've been following ur universe on the universe thread nd i really enjoy reading it but i have a few questions

    1.How long is ur average match

    2.Is there a way 2 prolong a feud because mine usually goes until a PPV then its over

    3.Does the CPU get a descent amount of offense and gain momentum during the match

    4.How many cutscenes do u get per show

    5.How do u set up ur cards is it jobber, mid-carder, nd contenders/Title Holders

    Thanks for this because i was trying 2 have my universe much like REAL-LIFE but it just wasnt working, and Im 14 also but like 2 play REALISTICALLY
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    • BenGerman
      No Place Better
      • Sep 2008
      • 2752

      #3
      Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

      Originally posted by EAGLESFAN10
      Hey man I've been following ur universe on the universe thread nd i really enjoy reading it but i have a few questions

      1.How long is ur average match

      2.Is there a way 2 prolong a feud because mine usually goes until a PPV then its over

      3.Does the CPU get a descent amount of offense and gain momentum during the match

      4.How many cutscenes do u get per show

      5.How do u set up ur cards is it jobber, mid-carder, nd contenders/Title Holders

      Thanks for this because i was trying 2 have my universe much like REAL-LIFE but it just wasnt working, and Im 14 also but like 2 play REALISTICALLY
      1. I'd say my average match is about 5-10 minutes on an Episode of Raw or Smackdown. During a PPV, it tends to be 10-15 minutes, while the main events are around 15-20.

      2. The best way to prolong a feud is taking control of the booking. After the PPV, keep the rivalry going by booking the two superstars. Also, make sure their rivalry is at the highest intensity.

      3. The CPU plays well on Legendary (in my experience). But you have to lower the AI Reversal to a couple notches above 0 so they don't reverse everything. Also make sure that User Reversal is set at 0. Also, the house rules I have in place help make the sure the match runs fluidly.

      4. I'd say I get about 2 or 3 per show. Sometimes I'll get more than one cutscene a match however.

      5. Unfortunately, the booking is pretty limited considering they only let you have 4 matches an episode. However, this is what I do (the order of which doesn't matter).

      Match #1: WWE Belt/World Heavyweight Belt. Even if the belt holder isn't in the match, its imperative that a contender or two is in the episode. Always make sure you have a title related fight, or else you'll end up with weird CPU bookings for the PPV.

      Match #2: US Belt/Intercontinental Belt. About 90% of the episodes contain some kind of action for these belts. Again, it doesn't need to be the belt holders per-say. But even if its just a contenders match, you don't want to forget about the belt altogether.

      Match #3: Always try and hold a slot for a major feud. IF you don't have one, than I suggest using this slot to try and create one. If you're trying to follow the shows in real life, you'd use this slot for a Kane/Cena kind of match.

      Match #4: I use the last slot to put people over, give them pushes, etc. When I'm not using it for that, I'll use it to promote the Tag Division.


      Remember though, you have three shows. If you want to keep the Tag Division interesting but don't want to waste a slot on it on your bigger shows, than use up your Wednesday show's slots. They give you three of them, so you might as well put it to use. Its also good for Diva Matches, and putting people over (for example, I've been using Regal to put Brodus Clay over).

      I'm glad this thread has helped you. I know I was confused as hell when I first started my Universe, and was looking for anything to help me get it going and give it a realistic feel.
      Writer for Operation Sports

      Gamertag (Xbox One): Bengerman 1031
      PSN Name: BadNewsBen

      Twitter: @BadNewsBenV
      Twitch: www.Twitch.TV/Bengerman10

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      • EAGLESFAN10
        MVP
        • Nov 2011
        • 2338

        #4
        Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

        Thanks man, now I can finally have some of my feuds that i want happen now , Also i dnt have the attribute editor but i still hope the matches will last in the 5-15 min range


        Universe is soooo adicting !!
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        • PhilliesFan13
          Banned
          • May 2009
          • 15651

          #5
          Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

          Originally posted by BenGerman
          Sliders & Gameplay Options

          Rating Changes:
          • All Superstars/Divas recovery down to 0 (allows for better Triple Threat/Steel Cage/Ladder Matches)
          • Charisma up 5 (more cutscenes?)

          Gameplay:
          • Legendary difficulty
          • CPU Grapple all at 2
          • Human Grapple all at 0
          • Finisher Strength at maximum
          • Object Strength at maximum
          • Finisher Reversel at maximum
          • Object Reversel at default
          I looked into moving everyone's recovery down to 0 but it only goes to 1. Anyhow, doing this makes the Superstar's total average drop a few points. Does this affect matches in any other way besides wrestlers taking longer to get up from moves and such?

          By the way, I restarted my Universe right after Bragging Rights. I deleted all allies and rivals for most everyone and am starting fresh. Set up some new rivals for guys and my first shows after this were pretty good.

          On Smackdown, The Undertaker (WHC) had a match with Mark Henry. When Henry came to the ring he was attacked by Brock Lesnar from the crowd. I ended up beating Henry with the Tombstone and after the match Undertaker left the ring and Lesnar ran right by him into the ring and began beating the hell out of Henry. Undertaker looked back, ran into the ring, and gave a whooping to Lesnar. Now Undertaker has a mid alliance with Henry, and Lesnar is now a low intensity rival. I want to have Undertaker feud with The Rock for the WHC. Have The Rock as a high intensity rival and also have him as a heel. Hoping something comes of those two soon.

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          • BenGerman
            No Place Better
            • Sep 2008
            • 2752

            #6
            Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

            Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
            [/LIST]I looked into moving everyone's recovery down to 0 but it only goes to 1. Anyhow, doing this makes the Superstar's total average drop a few points. Does this affect matches in any other way besides wrestlers taking longer to get up from moves and such?

            By the way, I restarted my Universe right after Bragging Rights. I deleted all allies and rivals for most everyone and am starting fresh. Set up some new rivals for guys and my first shows after this were pretty good.

            On Smackdown, The Undertaker (WHC) had a match with Mark Henry. When Henry came to the ring he was attacked by Brock Lesnar from the crowd. I ended up beating Henry with the Tombstone and after the match Undertaker left the ring and Lesnar ran right by him into the ring and began beating the hell out of Henry. Undertaker looked back, ran into the ring, and gave a whooping to Lesnar. Now Undertaker has a mid alliance with Henry, and Lesnar is now a low intensity rival. I want to have Undertaker feud with The Rock for the WHC. Have The Rock as a high intensity rival and also have him as a heel. Hoping something comes of those two soon.
            Thanks for the response. Yeah, I forgot to mention that recovery actually only goes down to 1. The overall rating doesn't really matter, so I wouldn't worry about that. If you end up lowering everyone, guys like Undertaker, Orton, and Cena are still going to have high ratings. In my experience, the only thing the Recovery rating changes is the amount of time the superstar takes to bounce back from the move. Without it at 1, they get up almost immediately (even late into the match) making it impossible for Triple Threat matches, Steel Cage matches, and Ladder matches.

            As far as your Rock/Taker feud, I'd just let it play out for a couple weeks. The Rock is bound to screw Undertaker over at some point with his rivalry being that intense. If you want to hurry things along, you could always pair them up in a match, but it'd probably be more exciting to just let it play out. Trust me, if they're on the same brand and have heavy rivalries with one another, something will happen soon enough.
            Writer for Operation Sports

            Gamertag (Xbox One): Bengerman 1031
            PSN Name: BadNewsBen

            Twitter: @BadNewsBenV
            Twitch: www.Twitch.TV/Bengerman10

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            • BlueNGold
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 21817

              #7
              Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

              It's funny, up until a few days ago I had almost always initiated feuds on my own by using the pre-match interference option, clocking a guy with a chair, etc. I never thought to set the rivalries beforehand to get a feud going and have the Universe play it out for you.

              One thing I've had a hard time figuring out though -- and maybe the above will help me with this, I haven't tried -- is how to get a a guy to turn on his tag team partner. A little while back I tried setting up a few matches with CM Punk and Chris Jericho as partners (both faces) with me controlling Jericho. I was hoping to get Jericho to turn on Punk near the middle or end of the match, but the only thing is I don't think that it's possible in-game. I'm pretty sure you can't hit your own partner with a weapon and I don't think there's any other way to go about it without a Universe cutscene.
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              • Redacted01
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2007
                • 10316

                #8
                Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

                Originally posted by BlueNGold
                It's funny, up until a few days ago I had almost always initiated feuds on my own by using the pre-match interference option, clocking a guy with a chair, etc. I never thought to set the rivalries beforehand to get a feud going and have the Universe play it out for you.

                One thing I've had a hard time figuring out though -- and maybe the above will help me with this, I haven't tried -- is how to get a a guy to turn on his tag team partner. A little while back I tried setting up a few matches with CM Punk and Chris Jericho as partners (both faces) with me controlling Jericho. I was hoping to get Jericho to turn on Punk near the middle or end of the match, but the only thing is I don't think that it's possible in-game. I'm pretty sure you can't hit your own partner with a weapon and I don't think there's any other way to go about it without a Universe cutscene.
                Don't make it happen in a tag team match itself. If they are set as a tag team. Have Jericho interfere in one of Punk's match and have it cost him, or just outright attack him. Pretty sure it won't be long before they are turning on eachother.

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                • BenGerman
                  No Place Better
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2752

                  #9
                  Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

                  Originally posted by BlueNGold
                  It's funny, up until a few days ago I had almost always initiated feuds on my own by using the pre-match interference option, clocking a guy with a chair, etc. I never thought to set the rivalries beforehand to get a feud going and have the Universe play it out for you.

                  One thing I've had a hard time figuring out though -- and maybe the above will help me with this, I haven't tried -- is how to get a a guy to turn on his tag team partner. A little while back I tried setting up a few matches with CM Punk and Chris Jericho as partners (both faces) with me controlling Jericho. I was hoping to get Jericho to turn on Punk near the middle or end of the match, but the only thing is I don't think that it's possible in-game. I'm pretty sure you can't hit your own partner with a weapon and I don't think there's any other way to go about it without a Universe cutscene.
                  I've had a few instances where tag team partners have turned on each other. From my experience, the best thing to do is have them team up, and then set a rivalry with one another. Eventually, they'll turn on each other. Another great feud I had came from my created character and Zack Ryder. Originally tag partners, my heel created character eventually turned on the heel Ryder and decided not to show up for one of their matches.

                  Like I said, a lot of it just depends on how patient you want to be with it. If you just team up two guys and let it brew for a little bit, give it a few weeks and there is a good chance they'll turn on each other at some point.
                  Writer for Operation Sports

                  Gamertag (Xbox One): Bengerman 1031
                  PSN Name: BadNewsBen

                  Twitter: @BadNewsBenV
                  Twitch: www.Twitch.TV/Bengerman10

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                  • LOOSECANNON
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 272

                    #10
                    Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

                    Since I can't really kick out of pins that well, i don't see myself setting the recovery rating down that low..

                    so far my Universe has been pretty good with the way it is...if it's set to 1, won't matches go by way quicker?

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                    • BenGerman
                      No Place Better
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2752

                      #11
                      Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

                      Originally posted by LOOSECANNON
                      Since I can't really kick out of pins that well, i don't see myself setting the recovery rating down that low..

                      so far my Universe has been pretty good with the way it is...if it's set to 1, won't matches go by way quicker?
                      Loose, unless I'm incorrect here (and someone let me know if I am), Recovery doesn't have any impact on kick-outs. I too have trouble with kick-outs, and haven't noticed any added difficulty. In my experience, keeping Recovery low slows the superstar's/diva's ability to preform. So a suplex is more likely to keep them down on the ground for 5 seconds than with Recovery high. The biggest reasons I changed this is a) The difference it makes in Triple Threat matches is phenomenal. With Recovery at 1, you see will often see one of the wrestlers down on the mat, or dazed against the turnbuckle which allows for the other two wrestlers to actually fight without being interrupted by weird punches and stuff. b) Steel Cage/Ladder matches. Sometimes, I'd play a Ladder Match that would go on for almost an hour because no one would stay down long enough for the other person to climb the ladder.

                      Its more of a personal preference, but if your looking to change the way your Triple Threat matches go, I strongly recommend you look into changing the Recovery attribute. You could always test it out in Exhibition mode first, just to see how you like it.
                      Writer for Operation Sports

                      Gamertag (Xbox One): Bengerman 1031
                      PSN Name: BadNewsBen

                      Twitter: @BadNewsBenV
                      Twitch: www.Twitch.TV/Bengerman10

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                      • LOOSECANNON
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 272

                        #12
                        Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

                        Originally posted by BenGerman
                        Loose, unless I'm incorrect here (and someone let me know if I am), Recovery doesn't have any impact on kick-outs. I too have trouble with kick-outs, and haven't noticed any added difficulty. In my experience, keeping Recovery low slows the superstar's/diva's ability to preform. So a suplex is more likely to keep them down on the ground for 5 seconds than with Recovery high. The biggest reasons I changed this is a) The difference it makes in Triple Threat matches is phenomenal. With Recovery at 1, you see will often see one of the wrestlers down on the mat, or dazed against the turnbuckle which allows for the other two wrestlers to actually fight without being interrupted by weird punches and stuff. b) Steel Cage/Ladder matches. Sometimes, I'd play a Ladder Match that would go on for almost an hour because no one would stay down long enough for the other person to climb the ladder.

                        Its more of a personal preference, but if your looking to change the way your Triple Threat matches go, I strongly recommend you look into changing the Recovery attribute. You could always test it out in Exhibition mode first, just to see how you like it.
                        I'm going to give it a go! Will probably return to my Universe 2mor after RAW. Tonight I'm downloading and uploading all of the themes needed for the new CAW's I downloaded...particularly ECW, Renders, etc...

                        One thing...if I give someone a high-impact move early in the match they won't be down for a while right? i mean, I don't want guys out cold early on unless hit by a chair lol

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                        • BenGerman
                          No Place Better
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2752

                          #13
                          Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

                          No, you should be good. It still take 5/10 minutes for someone to be knocked out for any amount of time.
                          Writer for Operation Sports

                          Gamertag (Xbox One): Bengerman 1031
                          PSN Name: BadNewsBen

                          Twitter: @BadNewsBenV
                          Twitch: www.Twitch.TV/Bengerman10

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                          • UMhester04
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1384

                            #14
                            Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

                            Do you leave the durability sliders at their default ratings?

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                            • BenGerman
                              No Place Better
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2752

                              #15
                              Re: Bengerman's Guide to Universe Mode

                              Originally posted by UMhester04
                              Do you leave the durability sliders at their default ratings?
                              I have thus far, but I've been thinking about changing it. I'll probably leave it where it is for now, however.
                              Writer for Operation Sports

                              Gamertag (Xbox One): Bengerman 1031
                              PSN Name: BadNewsBen

                              Twitter: @BadNewsBenV
                              Twitch: www.Twitch.TV/Bengerman10

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