Hell in a Cell 10/28/12

[Mercury112491]

Re: Hell in a Cell 10/28/12

Terrible match, terrible ending. I hate seeing Punk run like a cowardly heel during a match. Not only is he champ, he had the ref in his corner, he should've fought with confidence.

He sold the entire match perfectly. You could have an army of guys on your side but no matter how good you are if you're standing alone in front of someone like Ryback you're going to be unnerved. By acting scared at the beginning he helps build up Ryback without actually having to lose the match. He had confidence during the middle of the match when he was on the offensive.

There's this thing that used to happen in a wrestling ring a lot. Especially before the ADD instant gratification generation. It's called story telling.

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Terrible match, terrible ending. I hate seeing Punk run like a cowardly heel during a match. Not only is he champ, he had the ref in his corner, he should've fought with confidence.

He calls himself the best in the world....I guess only if he's beating up on Cena.

[simgamer0005]

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Terrible match, terrible ending. I hate seeing Punk run like a cowardly heel during a match. Not only is he champ, he had the ref in his corner, he should've fought with confidence.

i thought it was a good match. Punk had to be elusive. match had some pretty good spots. the ending was just unbelievable. i mean even for WWE. it definitely had shock value, but it was actually a good match, and i think we were expecting to see if Punk could kick out of Ryback's finisher. Was there even a single pin attempt in that match? the hell in the cell is really the perfect match type for CM Punk vs Ryback. On the one hand i think the fans wanted to see a real long out drag out battle between Ryback and CM Punk, and there was a missed opportunity with the referee storyline. On the other hand it will be interesting to see how this angle turns out and if / when there will be a rematch. Also, was it just me or was the HIAC cage slightly bigger then the HIAC cage used in Taker vs HHH? i think more room between the the ring and the HIAC cage could give Ryback more room to slam Punk into the cage. I think the fans deserve to see another HIAC match between Ryback and Punk.

[Hooe]

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I just watched a video of the ending and I thought it was absolutely hysterical.

[Fiasco West]

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HIAC matches and these type of matches will never be the same as long as WWE keeps this PG thing.

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I was glad to finally see there only be ONE hell in a cell match. The 2 and 3 every year at this PPV was really killing the purpose of the cell. Yes, having a PPV where it is guaranteed to happen ruins it anyway, but if we are forced to have them, keep them to a minimum. EC might as well stay. They'll never have that many people intentionally feuding ever again for it to come up on its own.

[Spongedaddy]

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Shouldn't Ryback have steel b***s? I really hate the ending. It leaves room for a reversal that keeps his streak alive and Punk champ, but it seems weak. I would have preferred the idea of the Lesnar ending. Oh well.

[Streets]

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Well obviously the WWE will probably give him the belt at some point. But they also gave it to Swagger. In all seriousness what did you see from him that gives you hope for his development? The only thing he did that impressed me was how hard he threw himself into the stairs. A lot of times you see these big guys and they don't know how to sell anything because they've always been overpowering. Ryback looks like he won't mind taking some damage now and again. However, I'm not seeing anything from him right now that makes me think he can but on a decent match longer than 10 minutes.

I loved Swagger's run, personally and thought he could have been big. WWE just didn't know what to do with him once he lost and he became jobber to the stars... then... jobber to the jobbers.

I guess the question I have is what about that match made you think that he can't be a top guy? First of all, he was the only thing the entire night that got the crowd amped up (the "feed me more" chants and pops during the match were extremely loud). In order to be a top guy you have to connect with the crowd above all else.

Second, his presence was great. He seriously played his part perfectly from the hulking up, tossing weapons, stalking his wounded prey, etc. Ryback was perfect in that role.

If you expected Ryback to put on a 5 star clinic, I'm sorry you were disappointed. The fact that he's all power moves is part of his appeal. Who was the last WWE guy like him? The APA maybe? Guys who do nothing but stiff power-moves that make you question the legitimacy of the statement "it's all fake". The thing I don't get is does everyone have to be Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, or CM Punk to be accepted now a days?

Ryback is bringing something different and I think he's playing his role perfectly. Remember he has to work with what he's given. If they're not slotted for 30 minutes he's not going to wrestle 30 minutes. It doesn't mean he's not capable. I think for a guy as green as him he's excelled in every spot he's been put in with this new gimmick.

[Santino]

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Sheamus/Big Show deserves way more praise. Easily one of the top 10 best matches of the year.

[simgamer0005]

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Sheamus/Big Show deserves way more praise. Easily one of the top 10 best matches of the year.

Absolutely. i really liked how unlike most WWE matches, it had a very realistic pace to it. there was actual infighting similar to an MMA fight or something. like the repeated strikes by Sheamus with the Big Show blocking and then trying to tie Sheamus up. Also the counters, like when Big Show attempted his traditional "shhhhhh" before he did the slap with Sheamus on the turnbuckle, well before he could do the slap Sheamus got in there and pushed him away. they bypassed a lot of the "you hit me, then it's my turn to hit you" spots you see in most WWE matches. they really brawled and it was fun to watch.

I gotta say, I really have earned a lot of respect for the Big Show lately. ever since the heel turn, he really transitioned to a more serious wrestler. i do miss the happy go lucky Big Show sometimes, but I think it's fair to say his in-ring performance has been much better since the turn. Sheamus did White Noise to Big Show which was an impressive feat. and Sheamus took a lot of punishment over the course of the match. it was a grueling and very good title match.

[kingkilla56]

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The Show match was very good and the ending shocked the hell out of me. They threw Super Sheamus right out the window. They actually made Sheamus look strong and weak in the same match. It was good. But I still hate the WMD and the Brogue Kick.

[Mercury112491]

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I loved Swagger's run, personally and thought he could have been big. WWE just didn't know what to do with him once he lost and he became jobber to the stars... then... jobber to the jobbers.

I guess the question I have is what about that match made you think that he can't be a top guy? First of all, he was the only thing the entire night that got the crowd amped up (the "feed me more" chants and pops during the match were extremely loud). In order to be a top guy you have to connect with the crowd above all else.

Second, his presence was great. He seriously played his part perfectly from the hulking up, tossing weapons, stalking his wounded prey, etc. Ryback was perfect in that role.

If you expected Ryback to put on a 5 star clinic, I'm sorry you were disappointed. The fact that he's all power moves is part of his appeal. Who was the last WWE guy like him? The APA maybe? Guys who do nothing but stiff power-moves that make you question the legitimacy of the statement "it's all fake". The thing I don't get is does everyone have to be Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, or CM Punk to be accepted now a days?

Ryback is bringing something different and I think he's playing his role perfectly. Remember he has to work with what he's given. If they're not slotted for 30 minutes he's not going to wrestle 30 minutes. It doesn't mean he's not capable. I think for a guy as green as him he's excelled in every spot he's been put in with this new gimmick.

I just didn't see any depth. Which you're right, that may be something out of his control. Creative is probably telling him what he can and can't do in the ring. I just haven't seen anything in his entire run so far that gives me hope. During Goldberg's run, even before his feud with Raven, Goldberg would pretty much do the same few moves over and over. But every once in awhile you'd catch something like that back hand spring or an enzuguri. He wouldn't use it again for awhile but at least you saw a glimmer of his athleticism and his ability to be something more than power.

We haven't seen anything like that from Ryback. I understand he's playing a character right now but character's need to have depth or they'll fizzle out. You're right the crowd is going nuts for him last night. But does it really have to do with Ryback? Or does it have more to do with the WWE crowed wanting to have a super face besides Cena? Crowd reaction is important obviously but it's only the tip of the iceberg. You know who else got a HUGE crowd reaction, didn't do anything with it, and proceeded to get a few boring chants during his matches....Zach Ryder. The Crowd isn't everything.

I didn't even expect a 3 start clinic from Ryback. But it was a PPV, so I expected him to show me something new, something different than what he'd been doing on RAW. Hell he even did the same move twice in a row at some point. The APA were tough guys that did a lot of power moves but you're talking about two hall of fame guys. They did A LOT more than just power moves.

And I'm not in that boat of thinking you need to be a Bryan or a Punk to put on a great match. Big Show/Sheamus was an AWESOME match. My favorite wrestler of all time is Hulk Hogan. Not exactly a technical wizard in the ring. I'm a fan of Wrestling in its entirety. Any size wrestler of any style can put on a great match. Ryback has never put on a great match. Like I said before, it's possible he has a lot more in his bag but creative is dictating what moves he can use. But so far I haven't seen anything to make me think this guy will be around long enough to get his own DVD one day.

[jorge380]

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Ryback is a beast.But for some reason i see him more effective as a heel.

[beauforsure]

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i think this was a horrible PPV overall... The matches booked werent horrible but they sequence in which they appeared was... Triple threat Divas match before the Main Event ?? LOL.. horrible... Also i love how they threw the Mysterio/Cara vs Players in there to fill air space... and they had a really good match which wasnt even hyped really. Oh and Cell match wasnt good... Ryback and Punk dont have much chemistry togther in the ring. It looked silly at times.

Show vs Sheamus was very good. They really brought there A game last night.

Oh and another throw you in there match.... Gabriel vs Cesaro... LOL !! Really??

Cesaro isnt getting over liked they hoped.. talented but his gimmick is horrible.

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I understand he's playing a character right now but character's need to have depth or they'll fizzle out.

Not in wrestling. Which is unfortunate because then they'd actually have to do/try things.