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  • Majingir
    Moderator
    • Apr 2005
    • 47682

    #10156
    Originally posted by UFCMPunk
    So the WWE Vault channel just posted an hour long video on the rise of AJ Lee. Then they posted Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho from The Bash in 2009.

    So Jericho indeed coming back, Paige & AJ Lee this Sunday at Evolution.
    Jericho is still with AEW though isn't he? He only stepped away to go touring with his band? But Jerichos return to WWE would feel so much different this time around for obvious reasons of being one of the main guys in aew from day 1.

    AJ and Paige returning would be huge. Summerslam is at Metlife which is close to where she grew up (though obviously her and Punk are in Chicago now) so maybe she'd be back in some way for that?

    Given she probably wouldn't want to appear at the next rumble, if there was a moment to return, winning the battle royal would be a big one, though that winner goes to Clash in Paris not SS

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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47682

      #10157
      Peacock raising their prices for all tiers of their service.

      But despite that, obviously the Peacock deal with WWE is up in about 7 or 8 months from now, usually we find out new deals during big events, maybe they announce a new deal by summerslam?

      Peacock increasing prices and then wwe announcing they're moving their PLEs in the US to Netflix wouldn't make sense from Peacocks standpoint, so maybe they do have a deal to stay with WWE and are going to use the new deal to try and justify the increases? Not that WWE is the main part of Peacock, but it'll definitely be a pricey new deal regardless who gets it.

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      • Majingir
        Moderator
        • Apr 2005
        • 47682

        #10158
        WWE Unreal is listed as TV-MA on Netflix.

        For all the weird censoring Netflix is doing on 14+ rated shows, I imagine this show will be fully uncensored.

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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47682

          #10159
          I haven't seen any of it yet, but on WWE unreal one idea thrown around was Chelsea winning the rumble from #30, when everyone else beforehand would have been eliminated before she enters.

          I literally suggested that on here!

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          • UFCMPunk
            All Star
            • Jan 2016
            • 8914

            #10160
            Originally posted by Majingir
            I haven't seen any of it yet, but on WWE unreal one idea thrown around was Chelsea winning the rumble from #30, when everyone else beforehand would have been eliminated before she enters.

            I literally suggested that on here!
            Her character is perfect for that or the Otis MITB spot where the briefcase drops and Chelsea catches it.

            I've seen a picture of the original Wrestlemania 41 card and it's very interesting of what was planned verus what we got. Reigns vs Rollins one on one, while Punk was supposed to face Gunther for the World Heavyweight Championship. Other interesting notes....

            - Bayley didn't even factor into the original Mania card either. The original tag team title match was Becky & Charlotte vs Liv & Raquel. Unless it was Charlotte & Bayley with the injury angle still taking place. Wonder if this would have set up a Horsewoman Triple Threat at some point if the injury angle still happened.

            - Speaking of Charlotte... Tiffany Stratton nor Charlotte are in the original Women's Championship match. Nia who wasn't even on the card would have faced Jade, assuming a Tiffany cash in here to hold off on Jade winning.

            - Assuming the original Mania plans, the Rumble winners would have been Punk(Cena still wins the Chamber) and Jade as the Women's Rumble winner. Jey's popularity really changed their plans.

            - Rey Mysterio being paired with Travis Scott... yikes. It's better than what we got but pairing Rey with him seems odd. I'm happy Dirty Dom vs Bad Bunny didn't happen and that he got his moment with the IC Championship. Now if they want to do Bad Bunny vs Dirty Dom at a Puerto Rico show next year... I'm down.

            As someone who spent a ton of money for Wrestlemania 41, I kind of prefer the original card but also didn't mind what we got.

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            • SmashMan
              All Star
              • Dec 2004
              • 9754

              #10161
              Seeing Abyss endlessly apologizing to Bruce Prichard just made me feel kind of sad. As the producer I 100% get why he'd be frustrated in himself at that moment, but still.

              Here's the episode info for anyone curious:

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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47682

                #10162
                On episode 1:

                Wasn't expecting Chelsea Green to technically be the first one to drop an F bomb on this. Does feel weird having a fully uncensored WWE produced show while the tv shows get overly censored on things that don't even need to be censored (like crowd chants).

                Obviously they generically give everyone the same intro template, but Cena having fun with it when they asked him his name.

                "I'm John Cena, my ring name is John Cena and my government name is John Cena"

                Now Jacob Fatu has a comedic side too!? First Solo now him?! What other surprises will we find out from the Bloodline.

                I do wonder how this will go over with the talent. The "wrestling purists" HATE this because it exposes the business more than anything ever has before. But as a talent, how do you feel having this much access to what goes on backstage, and even more important, how might talent react to seeing behind the scenes looks in the writers room. So often we hear talent say they never knew any plan until it was official. So how might some talent react seeing what went on in the writers room. WM for instance, some talent might be finding out for the first time ever by watching this that they were or weren't even originally scheduled for WM, or their feud would've been way different.



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                • Majingir
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 47682

                  #10163


                  Originally posted by SmashMan
                  Seeing Abyss endlessly apologizing to Bruce Prichard just made me feel kind of sad. As the producer I 100% get why he'd be frustrated in himself at that moment, but still.

                  Here's the episode info for anyone curious:

                  image.png
                  Its also interesting hearing Bruce be like "people have this idea in their head that because it's Netflix we can go 2 hours, 3 hours, 4 hours, whatever we want.....no we can't."

                  It's not an idea in their head...HHH literally said that.

                  But I still wonder why Netflix is so insistent on a hard out for shows. It's live television, even if it's scripted, it's live, anything can happen.

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                  • SmashMan
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 9754

                    #10164
                    Originally posted by Majingir
                    Its also interesting hearing Bruce be like "people have this idea in their head that because it's Netflix we can go 2 hours, 3 hours, 4 hours, whatever we want.....no we can't."

                    It's not an idea in their head...HHH literally said that.

                    But I still wonder why Netflix is so insistent on a hard out for shows. It's live television, even if it's scripted, it's live, anything can happen.
                    Do we know that Netflix is insistent? I can believe WWE has their own end time in mind, tells Netflix about it, then as a professional courtesy they don’t want to go over.

                    I can’t believe Netflix would care or would stop them from going as long they wanted in general. It’s just content to them.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47682

                      #10165
                      Originally posted by SmashMan

                      Do we know that Netflix is insistent? I can believe WWE has their own end time in mind, tells Netflix about it, then as a professional courtesy they don’t want to go over.

                      I can’t believe Netflix would care or would stop them from going as long they wanted in general. It’s just content to them.
                      The way Bruce and others have talked about, it would be weird if it's a WWE decision when HHH was one of the people going on before about having fewer limitations going to Netflix and now it seems like they have just as many if not more.

                      SD and NXT makes sense since it's still on TV in the US, but Raw having hard outs doesn't make sense. I like the 2.5 hour shows, but if it needs to go on 2 minutes longer or something, that's fine.

                      Raw on Netflix has felt weird in the production/pacing since the start.

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                      • UFCMPunk
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 8914

                        #10166
                        As long as guys like Bruce are still in positions like that, the Vince mentality will always remain. That irritated me so much, I can't remember what time the show ended so not sure how over time they were but it was completely unnecessary.

                        That being the very first show, you would think they be able to go over a bit, especially when we've seen the end time of RAW since then be all over the place. Also, it's Seth Rollins & CM Punk!

                        If I learned anything this year, WWE is to blame for timing issues. That first episode on Netflix had a 20 minute Rock Promo that could have been 10 minutes, the amount of fluff and pointless stuff that takes up airtime is ridiculous. Not the producers fault!

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47682

                          #10167
                          Originally posted by UFCMPunk
                          As long as guys like Bruce are still in positions like that, the Vince mentality will always remain. That irritated me so much, I can't remember what time the show ended so not sure how over time they were but it was completely unnecessary.

                          That being the very first show, you would think they be able to go over a bit, especially when we've seen the end time of RAW since then be all over the place. Also, it's Seth Rollins & CM Punk!

                          If I learned anything this year, WWE is to blame for timing issues. That first episode on Netflix had a 20 minute Rock Promo that could have been 10 minutes, the amount of fluff and pointless stuff that takes up airtime is ridiculous. Not the producers fault!
                          I noticed in the 1st episode they showed HHHs rundown of the show.

                          All the matches had time limits.

                          Any segment with Rock, Undertaker, Hogan didn't have a time limit posted.

                          So they can't blame the matches when the matches went on their lengths, it's the segments that went over.

                          But again, there should be no reason for cutting stuff short. Do you need to show 15 different celebrities? Cut out half of those or do very quick pretaped shots and that saves you a minute or two right there.

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                          • TheMatrix31
                            RF
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52927

                            #10168
                            I'm trying to figure out who or what this benefits to pull back the curtain so much on a show and industry that requires you to suspend your disbelief to give a **** about it.

                            The product already lacks immersion. We already have way too much insight.

                            So who does this help? Why does this exist?

                            It's a horrific idea. Protect your ****ing industry.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47682

                              #10169
                              Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                              I'm trying to figure out who or what this benefits to pull back the curtain so much on a show and industry that requires you to suspend your disbelief to give a **** about it.

                              The product already lacks immersion. We already have way too much insight.

                              So who does this help? Why does this exist?

                              It's a horrific idea. Protect your ****ing industry.
                              I think it's just content creation at this point.

                              And making it almost like the "making of" behind the scenes videos you used to see for movies as DVD extras.

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                              • SmashMan
                                All Star
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 9754

                                #10170
                                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                                I'm trying to figure out who or what this benefits to pull back the curtain so much on a show and industry that requires you to suspend your disbelief to give a **** about it.

                                The product already lacks immersion. We already have way too much insight.

                                So who does this help? Why does this exist?

                                It's a horrific idea. Protect your ****ing industry.
                                Protect it from what? Everyone knows it's fake, there's no illusion here anymore.

                                This isn't me sticking up for Unreal specifically, I've only watched the first episode and know going in that it's a WWE-produced/approved telling of what "really" happens backstage. On the main TV shows themselves? I agree with you, I don't need them breaking the fourth wall there. But outside it? Yeah, go for it.

                                You watch LFG and most of that show is spent with legends teaching rookies how to play their wrestling characters. If you can get immersed in the big guy pretending to be angry in the ring because Undertaker told him to, I don't see what the issue with Unreal would be.

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