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  • ubernoob
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    • Jul 2004
    • 15522

    #1366
    Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

    Yeah, his entire career arc (though through different organizations) was similar to how Daniel Bryan is now and how over they both got.

    Two guys (cut from a similar mold) that go out and try to tear the house down every night. Both undersized, both never being thought of as a guy that would cut it in WWF/E, both technically proficient.

    So naturally they give Bryan the headbutt and omoplata neck crank.
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    • TheShizNo1
      Asst 2 the Comm Manager
      • Mar 2007
      • 26341

      #1367
      Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

      I didn't think Benoit would be able to shine in WWE. Glad I was wrong. I put him on a list of favorites after his best of 7 with Booker T in WCW.

      Did they ever put that into some sort of collection? If not, they were scattered throughout the Nitros and whatever PPVs were coming up at the time.

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      • Aggies7
        All Star
        • Jan 2005
        • 9495

        #1368
        Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

        Just watching 2002 Royal Rumble. Pretty obvious that the Undertaker blades Maven and then tucks the blade into his waistband.
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        • ubernoob
          ****
          • Jul 2004
          • 15522

          #1369
          Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

          No lie, but I have no idea how this opinion will stand around here.

          After going through many early events I have come to the determination... Sting is pretty terrible and easily the most overrated wrestler of the 90s time period. If he wasn't ever "the saving grace up in the rafters" of the nWo angle, he would be just another dude.

          Most of his decent matches were pretty much carried (or at the very least greatly helped along) by his opponents.

          His selling is terrible (when it's not non-existent.) His moveset is sloppy.

          I'm fairly certain you could have put a lot of people in the crow makeup and that storyline (the nWo was THAT hot) and they'd be just as big of a draw as Sting was. It's not like he had to cut promos.

          Coupled with the facts that:
          A) He never went to WWE
          B) Nobody (in general) watches TNA
          C) Nostalgia is a helluva drug

          and you have the ultimate storm of Sting being remembered in an entirely too positive light.
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          • veguss2001
            Rookie
            • Jun 2009
            • 53

            #1370
            Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

            I used to watch heavy back in the 80s and then stopped around 94. Then I caught on during the Monday Night Wars and felt like Wrestling was better than ever. Then John Cena showed up and I was out. CM Punk is part of the reason I watch now. I said all of that to say this, I missed a lot of classic matches. This app is a solid investment for me.

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            • TheShizNo1
              Asst 2 the Comm Manager
              • Mar 2007
              • 26341

              #1371
              Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

              If I were to explain why I liked Sting, nothing about in ring ability would come up.

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              • reyes the roof
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 11526

                #1372
                Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                I watched Starrcade 87 last night, Ronnie Garvin is one of the worst wrestlers I have ever seen, I can't think of one reason to put the World Title on him. His entire arsenal consisted of punch, slap, stomp, and scratch his opponents back. The crowd did have a pretty nice Garvin sucks chant going, and the company's biggest heel got a face reaction after he won. #hijackstarrcade87

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                • Pezell04x
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2907

                  #1373
                  Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                  Has anyone used a Chromecast with the network yet? Experiences?
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                  • Rocky
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6896

                    #1374
                    Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ubernoob
                    No lie, but I have no idea how this opinion will stand around here.

                    After going through many early events I have come to the determination... Sting is pretty terrible and easily the most overrated wrestler of the 90s time period. If he wasn't ever "the saving grace up in the rafters" of the nWo angle, he would be just another dude.

                    Most of his decent matches were pretty much carried (or at the very least greatly helped along) by his opponents.

                    His selling is terrible (when it's not non-existent.) His moveset is sloppy.

                    I'm fairly certain you could have put a lot of people in the crow makeup and that storyline (the nWo was THAT hot) and they'd be just as big of a draw as Sting was. It's not like he had to cut promos.

                    Coupled with the facts that:
                    A) He never went to WWE
                    B) Nobody (in general) watches TNA
                    C) Nostalgia is a helluva drug

                    and you have the ultimate storm of Sting being remembered in an entirely too positive light.
                    I'm just going to say that I VEHEMENTLY disagree. It's one thing to watch matches 20 years later...but it's another to actually go to those events at the time. Sting's force of personality and energy really did wonders with the crowd. In a sense, he was a perfect face (limited but memorable moveset, distinctive look and theme, a natural charisma and very good mic skills) for the time.
                    "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
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                    • SPTO
                      binging
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 68046

                      #1375
                      Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                      Regarding Sting, I agree his repertoire in the ring wasn't the greatest BUT the moves that he did were memorable and pretty good. The man had a great look and personality to him that captured the fans' interest. I guess it's true that he was greatly helped by his opponents but because he was so popular with the fans he was still able to convey a sense of vulnerability when selling despite not being the greatest at it himself. His mic skills early in his career was horrible though he got better as time went on.

                      Personally I think there's a good argument to be made that Sting was the John Cena of his day, a guy that was very over with the kids and family types, had a cool look and could wrestle at least competently enough. The difference is that Sting was able to transition to a totally different character and style while Cena has gotten stale with his act and NEEDS a change of some type. I actually think Cena is long overdue for a heel turn to be honest with you.

                      Going back to Sting though, he had some great matches in his career and is generally regarded as one of the good guys in the business. Yeah, he never went to WWF but I think that has more to do with the fact that he was extremely loyal to WCW even when crap was hitting the fan. In a lot of ways that loyalty has probably hurt him overall.
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                      • ubernoob
                        ****
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 15522

                        #1376
                        Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Rocky
                        I'm just going to say that I VEHEMENTLY disagree. It's one thing to watch matches 20 years later...but it's another to actually go to those events at the time. Sting's force of personality and energy really did wonders with the crowd. In a sense, he was a perfect face (limited but memorable moveset, distinctive look and theme, a natural charisma and very good mic skills) for the time.
                        Oh, I'm not trying to downplay his spot in history. His run against the nWo being "The lone protector" was amazing at the time. I'm not saying he wasn't over like crazy then (or prior to then) but... he wasn't a very good wrestler.

                        I respect the guy, and actually support the WWE bringing him in to face Taker next year because I think the story writes itself and the pageantry surrounding it could be fantastic... but he falls squarely into that "Hulk Hogan/Ultimate Warrior" hole rather than the "Ric Flair/Randy Savage/Ricky Steamboat" hole.

                        Good (and gigantically over) but doesn't hold up to the test of history. There are a ton of other matches from that time that I'd rather watch.

                        Again, not trying to say he wasn't over or anything... I just think his in-ring work gets overrated for a variety of reasons.
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                        • DTX3
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 13022

                          #1377
                          Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ubernoob
                          No lie, but I have no idea how this opinion will stand around here.

                          After going through many early events I have come to the determination... Sting is pretty terrible and easily the most overrated wrestler of the 90s time period. If he wasn't ever "the saving grace up in the rafters" of the nWo angle, he would be just another dude.

                          Most of his decent matches were pretty much carried (or at the very least greatly helped along) by his opponents.

                          His selling is terrible (when it's not non-existent.) His moveset is sloppy.

                          I'm fairly certain you could have put a lot of people in the crow makeup and that storyline (the nWo was THAT hot) and they'd be just as big of a draw as Sting was. It's not like he had to cut promos.

                          Coupled with the facts that:
                          A) He never went to WWE
                          B) Nobody (in general) watches TNA
                          C) Nostalgia is a helluva drug

                          and you have the ultimate storm of Sting being remembered in an entirely too positive light.
                          Not to mention one of his biggest match(Starrcade 97) was pretty bad.
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                          • WWF80sKid
                            All Star
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 7095

                            #1378
                            Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                            It goes to show you that it doesn't take being a good wrestler to be over.

                            Look at Ultimate Warrior. He sucked. He was horrible at interviews. And he was an idiot.

                            And WWE Champion...

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #1379
                              Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                              Watching when Goldberg made his WWE debut, why did they get rid of his WCW theme? That version was WAY better than what he had when he finally debuted in the 'E.
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                              • TripleCrown9
                                Keep the Faith
                                • May 2010
                                • 23706

                                #1380
                                Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                Watching when Goldberg made his WWE debut, why did they get rid of his WCW theme? That version was WAY better than what he had when he finally debuted in the 'E.
                                Because it wasn't produced by Jim Johnston. And I think "Who's Next?" sounds better than "Invasion", personally. Even though it's just subtle differences.

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