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  • Greekcian
    MVP
    • Aug 2012
    • 977

    #181
    Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

    Originally posted by dubcity
    JBL burying the jobbers was the dumbest shtick I've heard him do in a long time. Completely defeated the purpose. Anyone with a brain knows the company desperately needs more talent enhancement matches.
    They don't even need enhancement matches, they just need to book better. There are ways to get decisive endings while still putting the losers over in stead of making them look like complete idiots. Random recent example: I thought they figured that out when Swagger passed out in his first feud with Rusev. The problem with that was (again) the announcing. There's just no way of getting anyone over if the commentators don't acknowledge anything and promote other **** in stead of paying attention.
    That's not an insult, THAT is just a fact of life.

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    • kingkilla56
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2009
      • 19395

      #182
      Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

      I could live without JBL completely burying everybody. Hes taking his heel thing too far.

      Additionally, the commentators nonstop burying the Ascension is so stupid of them. What would possess them to marginalize all upcoming NXT talent is beyond me, and that goes beyond just ascension.
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      • Majingir
        Moderator
        • Apr 2005
        • 47603

        #183
        Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

        NXT talent overall have been horrible on main roster. I've mentioned it before, we had so many people like Bo,Rose,Ascension,Big E among others who were real over on NXT, then come to main roster and are useless now.

        If that doesn't pinpoint WWEs problem I don't know what else does. Cause there's no way the quality drops that much, for so many people, when going from NXT to WWE, by coincidence.

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        • Kearnzo
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 5963

          #184
          Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

          Legit question. How much input do the writers (or Vince) have on promos? Some of Roman's promos are miserable, and they sound so scripted it hurts.

          I usually defend Roman to a degree, but man, these promos are bad. They need to just let the man be himself. Who knows how much better it would be, but at least it wouldn't look like he was struggling to remember a script.

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          • Noles4ever
            MVP
            • Apr 2010
            • 1675

            #185
            Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

            Originally posted by Majingir
            NXT talent overall have been horrible on main roster. I've mentioned it before, we had so many people like Bo,Rose,Ascension,Big E among others who were real over on NXT, then come to main roster and are useless now.

            If that doesn't pinpoint WWEs problem I don't know what else does. Cause there's no way the quality drops that much, for so many people, when going from NXT to WWE, by coincidence.
            Adam Rose was never going to be over on the main roster his gimmick was cool in nxt but you knew would never get behind on the main roster. I am surprise Bo & Big E are not successful Ascension always bored me on nxt.

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            • bigbob
              MVP
              • Sep 2007
              • 10471

              #186
              Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

              My thing with Ascension is that they just don't seem as smooth now. Add on the non-reactions everyone seems to get on Raw now, I just don't care about them anymore.

              I feel maybe a couple of ECW-hall type arenas would be great for the crowds but that'll never happen again.
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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47603

                #187
                Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

                Adam Rose wasn't gonna be an important superstar, but at least a notable entertainer is something he could've been. Look at when Raw was in the UK, fans were in love with his theme song(sure,they were also in love with Fandangos theme but still....), and he had so many random/funny moments in NXT and even abit on main roster(like when he was talking about some superstar trying to touch his "buns"(talking about his hamburger mascot person) and stuff along those lines).


                And Bo Dallas had some of the funniest superstar-fan interaction moments I've seen in WWE out of any new superstar in YEARS. Especially his final promo on NXT which was one of funniest promos ever.

                Ascension isn't the same without the "YA!YA!YA!" chants.

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                • ubernoob
                  ****
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 15522

                  #188
                  Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

                  Ascension was pretty "meh" at best on NXT. I don't recall many liking this iteration of it at all.
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                  • Segagendude
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 7940

                    #189
                    Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

                    Originally posted by ubernoob
                    Ascension was pretty "meh" at best on NXT. I don't recall many liking this iteration of it at all.
                    Then they should've debuted Balor instead. Imagine this on Raw...( then again, JBL would bury him by calling him "Boogeyman 2"..)
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                    Last edited by Segagendude; 01-13-2015, 08:21 PM.

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                    • ubernoob
                      ****
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 15522

                      #190
                      Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

                      Nope nope nope.

                      Don't waste a paint job on RAW. That should be saved specifically for big PPVs ('Mania only preferred.)
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                      • Chrisksaint
                        $$$
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19127

                        #191
                        Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

                        Originally posted by ubernoob
                        Nope nope nope.

                        Don't waste a paint job on RAW. That should be saved specifically for big PPVs ('Mania only preferred.)
                        Well I think it'd be worth it if it was big time debut thing if that happened on Raw. No way they save that for Mania only
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                        • Segagendude
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7940

                          #192
                          Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

                          Originally posted by ubernoob
                          Nope nope nope.

                          Don't waste a paint job on RAW. That should be saved specifically for big PPVs ('Mania only preferred.)
                          Maybe an entry into the Rumble?

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                          • ubernoob
                            ****
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 15522

                            #193
                            Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

                            Originally posted by Segagendude
                            Maybe an entry into the Rumble?
                            Here's the thing, as much as I'd like it.

                            Rushing that entrance takes away all of the awesome that it drips of. It wouldn't be anything special outside of "new facepainted wrestler runs in to the Rumble match, who is this Goldust 2.0?"
                            bad

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                            • Reed1417
                              MVP
                              • May 2012
                              • 6120

                              #194
                              Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

                              Yeah Balor should get his time to shine in his full entrance with body paint and all but only on big PPV's I agree. Far as the NXT talent translating to the main shows....I've said plenty of times that it makes no sense why we can't have the same characters be used the same way on the main show. It's not that hard at least not to me. Bo hasn't done much but I think he may be hurt so there's that, they don't have anything for Paige right now, Emma had some really good matches with Paige and other NXT ladies.....
                              Ross's character may need to be "venue specific" ya know. Big E has been decent so far from what I've seen. That's really it. Sorry for the long message.


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                              • Greekcian
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 977

                                #195
                                Re: 01/12/2015 Raw: Same as it Ever Was...

                                Then it's settled. Finn Balor is the no. 1 entrant in the royal rumble.
                                That's not an insult, THAT is just a fact of life.

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