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  • NorthPhillyFis
    Rookie
    • Oct 2014
    • 78

    #151
    I'm black and I don't care about this lol if anything keep him in the game so the mad people can kick his *** lol
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    • Jumpman14
      MVP
      • Jun 2013
      • 4282

      #152
      Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

      Eh the last time I played a WWE game was WWE 13 so lol.

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      • FBall Life
        Rookie
        • Nov 2013
        • 334

        #153
        Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

        Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
        Def not defendi g him. I just think the list shouldn't stop with him. Go ahead and axe Flair off of there too.

        Done on a WWF show...meaning Vince was okay about it...Greg Valentine





        WWE doing black face??? Vince is cool with it





        Another racist angle involving Triple H with Booker T on the receiving end? Vince is cool with it.






        And who could forget the good old Nation of Domination angle where they trashed the locker room and had racial slurs on the wall? Vince was cool with it!





        My question is who is going to take Vince to task and are yall still playing the game?
        What happens on the show is considered "performance art". You have to separate that from what happens in private in your real life. Denzel Washington shouldn't be banned from acting for his performance in Training Day.

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        • MLB Bob
          MVP
          • Jan 2011
          • 1008

          #154
          Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

          Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
          Def not defendi g him. I just think the list shouldn't stop with him. Go ahead and axe Flair off of there too.

          Done on a WWF show...meaning Vince was okay about it...Greg Valentine





          WWE doing black face??? Vince is cool with it





          Another racist angle involving Triple H with Booker T on the receiving end? Vince is cool with it.






          And who could forget the good old Nation of Domination angle where they trashed the locker room and had racial slurs on the wall? Vince was cool with it!





          My question is who is going to take Vince to task and are yall still playing the game?
          The company went public after much of this stuff happened. WWE isnt trying to be peoples moral compass, I guess thats what people aren't getting. If you find Greg Valentine or Rick Flair or any of the crap you posted offensive then protest, dont watch or whatever you want. WWE was not having their bottom line affected, or viewership affected or major protests about anything you mention in your post.

          WWE as a public company is dealing with a perceived or real controversy of a current situation with a current employee in a time where it could very well cause a major backlash. To avoid that, they fired an employee. Theres no need for retro active firings or suspensions or removals, because no one is willing to boycott or protest because of this stuff from 10,15,30 years ago.

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          • Nukleopatra
            Banned
            • Oct 2009
            • 381

            #155
            Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

            Wait a minute - so Ty Cobb was racist?

            What the...

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            • TPRES_74
              Just started!
              • Mar 2013
              • 3

              #156
              Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

              Originally posted by NorthPhillyFis
              I'm black and I don't care about this lol if anything keep him in the game so the mad people can kick his *** lol
              Most people don't care until it affects them personally - Job,family,kids,school, etc. and their on the other end of things. That's the problem especially with young black men or woman.
              Last edited by TPRES_74; 08-01-2015, 11:45 PM. Reason: Spelling

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              • TripleCrown9
                Keep the Faith
                • May 2010
                • 23705

                #157
                Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                Wait a minute - so Ty Cobb was racist?

                What the...
                Did you read the article I posted?
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                • BMDinTDOT
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 232

                  #158
                  Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  There were plenty of people supporting Sterling on social media. You dont know what you are talking about. You were the one who brought up Sterling so I dont know why its apples to oranges now. It was apples to apples when you thought Sterling's situation would help your argument.

                  What you keep getting messed up is I'm not saying I dont get angry. I get angry ALL THE TIME. The difference is I dont start calling people ******s or chinks or crackers or wetbacks because I'm angry.

                  People who do that are really ****ty people. LOL. They just are. There are SO MANY to express your anger without resulting to racial slurs. It sucks that you and your friends have trouble controlling yourself enough to prevent yourself from using racial slurs when you get angry.
                  What are you talking about?

                  The amount of public support Hogan got compared to Donald Sterling
                  is not even COMPARABLE the fact that you're trying to deny this
                  or down play it is you grasping for straws.

                  A lot of people have been coming out and saying that some people
                  just talk **** in private eg. look at the Rocks comments to the situation.

                  This forum is the only place that doesn't seem to think its fathomable
                  for people to say these types of things and not mean it.

                  I know the comments are severe but the fact you can't even wrap
                  your mind around the fact that it's even a possibility that Hogan was
                  talking **** at the time considering his history is unreal.

                  Also for the 8th time congratulations to you and others for being
                  saints and never slipping up. I'm not sure how using racial remarks
                  once is any different then wife beating or making homophobic remarks.

                  Booker T went to jail for armed robbery and paid hes debt to society.
                  Does that mean he's a criminal for the rest of his life or that he can't
                  change?

                  The Ultimate Warrior made his homophobic and anti muslim
                  remarks "publicly" on one or more occasion and lets face it none
                  of you care because most of you aren't gay or Muslim hell the WWE
                  even named a award after him. The double standards are ridiculous.
                  Last edited by BMDinTDOT; 08-04-2015, 06:06 AM.

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                  • BMDinTDOT
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 232

                    #159
                    Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                    Originally posted by Hassan Darkside
                    Out of curiosity, what are you trying to prove here? That racism is inexcusable--except for certain circumstances? Or just because you go on a racial tirade and declare yourself as racist, you're not actually racist? Or racism depends on the mood you're in? Or having black friends negates racism?

                    You know Dylann Roof had black friends, right?
                    Like the Rock said on this topic "We’ve all talked trash" well
                    apparently except for people on this forum.

                    How many times in basketball and Football do black players
                    dawg white players for being little white boys and crackers.
                    Are they racist? maybe or it could be smack talk on the field.

                    I've had people throw racist or religious remarks my way and
                    I know them well enough to know theyre just trying to be a dick.

                    Comedians have used racial jokes in their repertoire for years
                    but at that setting its acceptable because theyre "joking"

                    Hogans history and what was going on in his life provides enough
                    evidence to suggest he was just talking **** at the time.

                    I understand the severity of the remarks and that the U.S. is the
                    most racist country in the world and that racial tensions are high
                    between blacks and whites for what seems to be like 300 years now.

                    There's also a chance that even if he felt this way at the time he
                    doesn't anymore since it was 8 years ago and this individual has
                    dramatically changed his life.

                    So for you guys trying to paint me in a corner what's your take
                    on all of the many black Hogan fans and friends that agree with
                    me and don't believe he's racist?

                    You guys are aware your opinion on this incident is far from universal?

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                    • Hassan Darkside
                      We Here
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 7561

                      #160
                      Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                      Originally posted by BMDinTDOT
                      Like the Rock said on this topic "We’ve all talked trash" well
                      apparently except for people on this forum.

                      How many times in basketball and Football do black players
                      dawg white players for being little white boys and crackers.
                      Are they racist? maybe or it could be smack talk on the field.
                      Rock said "We've all talked trash," not that we've all gone on racist tirades. Your example isn't even comparable.
                      I've had people throw racist or religious remarks my way and
                      I know them well enough to know theyre just trying to be a dick.
                      Good for you?
                      Comedians have used racial jokes in their repertoire for years
                      but at that setting its acceptable because theyre "joking"
                      The comedy space is completely different and even in that, making a comedic career off of race jokes has become rarer and less accepted. Amy Schumer has come under fire recently for racially insensitive jokes. Your best comparison would be what Michael Richards said to that heckler in 06 at the Laugh Factory.
                      Hogans history and what was going on in his life provides enough
                      evidence to suggest he was just talking **** at the time.
                      What history? His relationships with "8-foot tall ******* worth a hundred million dollars?" The only ones he can rationalize tolerating?

                      I understand the severity of the remarks and that the U.S. is the
                      most racist country in the world and that racial tensions are high
                      between blacks and whites for what seems to be like 300 years now.

                      There's also a chance that even if he felt this way at the time he
                      doesn't anymore since it was 8 years ago and this individual has
                      dramatically changed his life.

                      So for you guys trying to paint me in a corner what's your take
                      on all of the many black Hogan fans and friends that agree with
                      me and don't believe he's racist?
                      They, like you, keep glossing over the fact that HE SAID HE WAS RACIST. What 'evidence' do you have that supports your theory that he's changed his opinions so much over the past 8 years?

                      The sad thing here is that your rationale is the exact reason why making progress amidst the current racial tensions is so damn hard. This isn't meant to be personal, but there's always this conglomerate that goes above and beyond to defend, justify, or explain away every act of racism. Then they go and find a black person or two that agrees with them and use that as credibility for their opinion. Most folks who haven't experienced or seen racism up close would only know it if it hit them in the face and Hulk Hogan did his best to do that. He even gave the two piece combo of saying the N-word and saying he's racist. Yet here you are, 160+ posts later, still trying to convince us that a man who said he's racist isn't actually racist.
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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #161
                        Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                        Originally posted by BMDinTDOT
                        What are you talking about?

                        The amount of public support Hogan got compared to Donald Sterling
                        is not even COMPARABLE the fact that you're trying to deny this
                        or down play it is you grasping for straws.

                        A lot of people have been coming out and saying that some people
                        just talk **** in private eg. look at the Rocks comments to the situation.

                        This forum is the only place that doesn't seem to think its fathomable
                        for people to say these types of things and not mean it.


                        I know the comments are severe but the fact you can't even wrap
                        your mind around the fact that it's even a possibility that Hogan was
                        talking **** at the time considering his history is unreal.

                        Also for the 8th time congratulations to you and others for being
                        saints and never slipping up. I'm not sure how using racial remarks
                        once is any different then wife beating or making homophobic remarks.

                        Booker T went to jail for armed robbery and paid hes debt to society.
                        Does that mean he's a criminal for the rest of his life or that he can't
                        change?

                        The Ultimate Warrior made his homophobic and anti muslim
                        remarks "publicly" on one or more occasion and lets face it none
                        of you care because most of you aren't gay or Muslim hell the WWE
                        even named a award after him. The double standards are ridiculous.
                        What's funny is that the only arguments you have to support your argument is "The Rock and Shaq said he isnt racist" and "Sometimes people yell racist **** when they are angry and dont mean it"

                        Your first argument is flawed. I'll say it again: Just because someone is occasionally polite or cool with a minority doesnt mean they cant be racist or hold prejudiced beliefs. There are thousands of people who if they met the Rock or Shaq would be polite and nice towards them because they are celebrities. Those same people are probably nice to the minorities that they work with. Those same people also would be furious if their daughter brought a black man home as her boyfriend.

                        Your second argument is equally flawed and I find it funny that you keep ducking this question (likely because you cant answer it and it ruins ur argument):

                        What did the guys race have to do with any of this?

                        Again, Hogan was mad that Brooke went to work with someone else on her music career. A son of a billionaire. That is what Hogan was mad at. So why is he bringing up his race? Why is he calling him a ******? Why is he saying that marrying ******s is OK if they are rich basketball players? Perhaps because he really believes those things and he regularly refers to blacks that way.

                        This tape isnt the only thing that indicates Hogan has an issue with blacks and black culture. A few years ago there was a dress code instituted at his restaurant that argyuably was directed at black consumers. ****, a week ago they released a tape of him talking to his son using the word "******".

                        Also if there is so much support......where is the "Reinstate Hogan" campaign? Why isnt the WWE being flooded with tweets, emails, letters and phone calls about how Hogan has been unjustifiably fired? Where is the #ReinstateHogan hashtag?

                        There is nothing because most people see it the way I do. Either he truly believes those things he says or he has real anger management issues that cause him to have some sort of racial tourettes. Either way he shouldnt be representing the WWE.

                        Also if there are times you get angry and that causes you to shout out racial slurs....get some help. Seriously.

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                        • Perceptor
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4364

                          #162
                          Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                          Originally posted by BMDinTDOT
                          Like the Rock said on this topic "We’ve all talked trash" well

                          apparently except for people on this forum.



                          How many times in basketball and Football do black players

                          dawg white players for being little white boys and crackers.

                          Are they racist? maybe or it could be smack talk on the field.



                          I've had people throw racist or religious remarks my way and

                          I know them well enough to know theyre just trying to be a dick.



                          Comedians have used racial jokes in their repertoire for years

                          but at that setting its acceptable because theyre "joking"



                          Hogans history and what was going on in his life provides enough

                          evidence to suggest he was just talking **** at the time.



                          I understand the severity of the remarks and that the U.S. is the

                          most racist country in the world and that racial tensions are high

                          between blacks and whites for what seems to be like 300 years now.



                          There's also a chance that even if he felt this way at the time he

                          doesn't anymore since it was 8 years ago and this individual has

                          dramatically changed his life.



                          So for you guys trying to paint me in a corner what's your take

                          on all of the many black Hogan fans and friends that agree with

                          me and don't believe he's racist?



                          You guys are aware your opinion on this incident is far from universal?

                          Regardless of whether I think he's a racist he still said what he said. It's not appropriate man. That's what a lot of people have said, even his most ardent supporters.

                          I'm sure he regrets what he said. That's what happens when you get fired and eviscerated on various social media. No one is comparing his actions to other people. You're the only one that is doing it.

                          Like I said before, you're basically using other examples to fit your point that Hulk isn't a racist. What we are saying is that what he said is wrong, plain and simple. Maybe in your world everyone you hang out with brushes these comments aside. In my world you lose your job for making comments like that.

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                          • stlstudios189
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2649

                            #163
                            Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                            Watch "finding Hulk Hogan"
                            It's on YouTube from 2010
                            Hulk Hogan changes his entire life and attitude in 2009 2 years after these comments were made. Was he racist then maybe we're the comments wrong of course but people change and I truley believe the Hulk Hogan of now is nowhere even close to the man that says those things in 2007
                            Gaming hard since 1988

                            I have won like 25 Super Bowls in Madden so I am kinda a big deal.

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                            • BMDinTDOT
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 232

                              #164
                              Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                              Originally posted by Hassan Darkside
                              Rock said "We've all talked trash," not that we've all gone on racist tirades. Your example isn't even comparable.

                              Good for you?

                              The comedy space is completely different and even in that, making a comedic career off of race jokes has become rarer and less accepted. Amy Schumer has come under fire recently for racially insensitive jokes. Your best comparison would be what Michael Richards said to that heckler in 06 at the Laugh Factory.

                              What history? His relationships with "8-foot tall ******* worth a hundred million dollars?" The only ones he can rationalize tolerating?


                              They, like you, keep glossing over the fact that HE SAID HE WAS RACIST. What 'evidence' do you have that supports your theory that he's changed his opinions so much over the past 8 years?

                              The sad thing here is that your rationale is the exact reason why making progress amidst the current racial tensions is so damn hard. This isn't meant to be personal, but there's always this conglomerate that goes above and beyond to defend, justify, or explain away every act of racism. Then they go and find a black person or two that agrees with them and use that as credibility for their opinion. Most folks who haven't experienced or seen racism up close would only know it if it hit them in the face and Hulk Hogan did his best to do that. He even gave the two piece combo of saying the N-word and saying he's racist. Yet here you are, 160+ posts later, still trying to convince us that a man who said he's racist isn't actually racist.
                              a) When the Rock says in "We've all talked a little trash" in regards
                              to Hogans comments. Read between the lines and what he's really
                              saying. What he's saying is what I've been saying this entire thread.

                              b) The man is 62 years old there is no other evidence that he's racist
                              in his entire life other then when he was at his lowest point.

                              c) You are obviously a black man living in the United States I have
                              no problem with your viewpoint or how you feel regarding the stuff
                              that goes on in your country I'm not trying to change your mind.

                              d) I don't know how I can explain this any further but I'll try. I'm not
                              trying to convince you of anything. But if you said something Racial,
                              Homophobic etc or committed a crime etc I would "leave the possibility"
                              out there that it was an isolated incident or a tirade before casting
                              full judgment on you that you are those things. When it comes to Sterling
                              I knew right off the bat he was racist and meant what he said. With
                              Hogan I believe he was just talking ****.

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                              • BMDinTDOT
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 232

                                #165
                                Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                                Originally posted by aholbert32
                                What's funny is that the only arguments you have to support your argument is "The Rock and Shaq said he isnt racist" and "Sometimes people yell racist **** when they are angry and dont mean it"

                                Your first argument is flawed. I'll say it again: Just because someone is occasionally polite or cool with a minority doesnt mean they cant be racist or hold prejudiced beliefs. There are thousands of people who if they met the Rock or Shaq would be polite and nice towards them because they are celebrities. Those same people are probably nice to the minorities that they work with. Those same people also would be furious if their daughter brought a black man home as her boyfriend.

                                Your second argument is equally flawed and I find it funny that you keep ducking this question (likely because you cant answer it and it ruins ur argument):

                                What did the guys race have to do with any of this?

                                Again, Hogan was mad that Brooke went to work with someone else on her music career. A son of a billionaire. That is what Hogan was mad at. So why is he bringing up his race? Why is he calling him a ******? Why is he saying that marrying ******s is OK if they are rich basketball players? Perhaps because he really believes those things and he regularly refers to blacks that way.

                                This tape isnt the only thing that indicates Hogan has an issue with blacks and black culture. A few years ago there was a dress code instituted at his restaurant that argyuably was directed at black consumers. ****, a week ago they released a tape of him talking to his son using the word "******".

                                Also if there is so much support......where is the "Reinstate Hogan" campaign? Why isnt the WWE being flooded with tweets, emails, letters and phone calls about how Hogan has been unjustifiably fired? Where is the #ReinstateHogan hashtag?

                                There is nothing because most people see it the way I do. Either he truly believes those things he says or he has real anger management issues that cause him to have some sort of racial tourettes. Either way he shouldnt be representing the WWE.

                                Also if there are times you get angry and that causes you to shout out racial slurs....get some help. Seriously.
                                Listen you can downplay Hogans black friends supporting him being
                                Celebrity boys all you want...

                                But you can't downplay all the black people out there that are fans of
                                Hogan supporting him saying what I've being saying that they don't
                                believe he's truly racist. What is your answer to that?

                                Now you're trying to make up a supposed dress code at his restaurant
                                to back up your claim? Hogan has been dressing like a black guy himself
                                for years.

                                Nobody is downplaying the severity of his remarks. None of us said
                                he shouldn't pay the consequences for his remarks by the WWE that's
                                why there is no #ReinstateHogan and they're not being flooded with
                                requests to bring him back.

                                You and another poster want to use that as ammo against me when
                                I never said it or advocated it...

                                All I've ever said is I believe there is a strong possibility that he really
                                isn't racist and was just talking **** at the time which Hogan does about
                                every topic he's ever discussed.

                                There are tons of black fans out there that think the same as me and
                                there is a ton of white people that think he truly is racist and are done
                                with him for good. We all look at Hogan differently and will have our
                                own opinions.

                                I don't know what else can be said but we agree to disagree on Hogan

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