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  • BMDinTDOT
    Rookie
    • Sep 2014
    • 232

    #76
    Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
    Except the part where, you know, the words that came out of his mouth were "I'm a racist".
    How many times have you seen or read some guy that got dumped
    by a GF or 2 say "I hate Women!" and "Bros before Hoes!" then
    the next girl that comes their way become whipped and cut off their
    friends for her?

    People say stuff or proclaim stuff on raw emotion sometimes...

    You could tell one of your friends that you "hate" your other friend
    because you're pissed off or that's how you feel at the time but
    you really don't...

    Name the example...

    "I hate women"

    "I hate people from _______"

    "I hate this race"

    "I hate my family"

    "I hate my friend ____"

    People also tend to say stuff or proclaim stuff they think the
    person they're confiding in wants to hear to usually impress them
    or get in their good graces.

    I've known people that tell me they're racist against this race then
    all the people they hang out with and help their families are the race
    they supposedly hate.

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    • Perceptor
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 4364

      #77
      Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

      I'm sure the guys who have said the stuff you said were done in privacy and behind closed doors. Given that Hulk said it in bed, he had the misfortune of that tape going on the internet which outed him. It doesn't mean that the guy in your example less wrong because he wasn't caught. Hulk made some terrible statements. They were racist. End of story. Clearly he wasn't in some stupor or fit of rage. He was in bed with a companion. Honestly I don't know how people are defending this. He said terrible things, got fired and that's the end of it. Like I said before, try saying what he said at work. If you still have a job after all the power to you.

      If Hulk had owned it before he was canned and outed, I could understand that WWE not being as harsh. He didn't and people are all over the WWE for doing what any other company would have done: protect their rep by firing someone who has sullied their rep

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      • Stormyhog
        All Star
        • Feb 2004
        • 5304

        #78
        Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

        I guess the Washington Redskins players are racist as well as they wear the logo with no complaint. Now I'm just making a point so don't take it literally but if saying things makes you a racist then wearing imagery should has well.
        "If you don't have anything good to say, say it often"- Ed the sock

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        • King_B_Mack
          All Star
          • Jan 2009
          • 24450

          #79
          Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

          Originally posted by BMDinTDOT
          How many times have you seen or read some guy that got dumped
          by a GF or 2 say "I hate Women!" and "Bros before Hoes!" then
          the next girl that comes their way become whipped and cut off their
          friends for her?

          People say stuff or proclaim stuff on raw emotion sometimes...

          You could tell one of your friends that you "hate" your other friend
          because you're pissed off or that's how you feel at the time but
          you really don't...

          Name the example...

          "I hate women"

          "I hate people from _______"

          "I hate this race"

          "I hate my family"

          "I hate my friend ____"

          People also tend to say stuff or proclaim stuff they think the
          person they're confiding in wants to hear to usually impress them
          or get in their good graces.

          I've known people that tell me they're racist against this race then
          all the people they hang out with and help their families are the race
          they supposedly hate.
          Originally posted by Stormyhog
          I guess the Washington Redskins players are racist as well as they wear the logo with no complaint. Now I'm just making a point so don't take it literally but if saying things makes you a racist then wearing imagery should has well.

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          • MLB Bob
            MVP
            • Jan 2011
            • 1008

            #80
            Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

            I think some of these comments and examples are a little misguided. Its not a general committee or organization that arbitrarily decides what athletes are deemed racists, or what words or symbols are racist. Its a case by case basis, and general public acceptance.

            This case, and solely this case, is WWE saying it was unacceptable for Hulk Hogan to stay employed after it was revealed he had made several comments that would devalue a public traded company and the owner made the decision to release an employee.

            This has nothing to do with the NFL, MLB, other actors, other athletes, any other organization or the general public. The only reference it has to the public is the opinion of the public that would affect ad revenue and share price going forward.

            Its up to each individual to decide how it affects their decision to continue to purchase or support the company or not based on their own level of forgiveness or morality.

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            • N51_rob
              Faceuary!
              • Jul 2003
              • 14805

              #81
              Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

              Originally posted by Stormyhog
              I guess the Washington Redskins players are racist as well as they wear the logo with no complaint. Now I'm just making a point so don't take it literally but if saying things makes you a racist then wearing imagery should has well.

              By this logic wearing a Hulk Hogan shirt makes you what exactly....?
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              • Sgt_Carnage
                Banned
                • Feb 2014
                • 949

                #82
                Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                Don't know what's worse, the fact that Hogan said this stuff and basically admitted that he's a racist, or the fact that some here are ignoring the fact that he basically admitted that and are attempting to defend him anyway.

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                • BMDinTDOT
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 232

                  #83
                  Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                  Originally posted by Sgt_Carnage
                  Don't know what's worse, the fact that Hogan said this stuff and basically admitted that he's a racist, or the fact that some here are ignoring the fact that he basically admitted that and are attempting to defend him anyway.
                  I think some of you are complete hypocrites and phonies acting like
                  you or someone you know has never said something in a hateful
                  tirade based off of raw emotion that they didn't really mean or believe.

                  It was said 8 years ago in a private setting where its well documented
                  Hogan was going through the darkest time of his life and he was suicidal.
                  He was even bashing his daughter a little who he adores he lost millions
                  of dollars his son was in a nasty car accident leaving another guy into a
                  vegetable he was obviously messed up mentally especially to bang his
                  good friends wife.

                  Why would so many of Hogans black friends come out and publicly say
                  HES NOT RACIST even though Hogan said in the video he was a racist?

                  Because they know him well enough to determine that he was in a bad
                  place at the time and just talking stupid $hit to somebody. There is no
                  other evidence that Hogan is a racist and not one other person has
                  come out and said they've heard this from Hogan before either.

                  I have no problem and completely understand why WWE got rid of
                  him that's understandable. I will never blame or question why a
                  black person is mad with him or cut him off for good.

                  However there is tons of people online (including many black people)
                  that don't believe Hogan is truly racist despite his remarks in the video.

                  For me personally I don't believe he's truly racist I understand the
                  punishment that's been given to him but I don't think he deserves the
                  Benoit treatment at all.

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #84
                    Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                    Originally posted by Stormyhog
                    I guess the Washington Redskins players are racist as well as they wear the logo with no complaint. Now I'm just making a point so don't take it literally but if saying things makes you a racist then wearing imagery should has well.
                    That is a HORRIBLE example. There is a big difference between actively making a statement and wearing a uniform your job makes you wear.

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                    • Stormyhog
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 5304

                      #85
                      Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      That is a HORRIBLE example. There is a big difference between actively making a statement and wearing a uniform your job makes you wear.
                      All I was getting at was where do we draw the line to what should be considered racist & what's not. Now comments like Hogan made is racist for sure no doubt but imagery should also be depending on how it's depicted. Now I know the players who wear the redskins logo are not racist I was just being overly dramatic & I shouldn't have said that. If anyone is to be held accountable it's the organizations that produce that type of imagery. I know this is a touchy subject & I don't mean to offend anybody here if I have sorry.
                      "If you don't have anything good to say, say it often"- Ed the sock

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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #86
                        Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                        Originally posted by Stormyhog
                        All I was getting at was where do we draw the line to what should be considered racist & what's not. Now comments like Hogan made is racist for sure no doubt but imagery should also be depending on how it's depicted. Now I know the players who wear the redskins logo are not racist I was just being overly dramatic & I shouldn't have said that. If anyone is to be held accountable it's the organizations that produce that type of imagery. I know this is a touchy subject & I don't mean to offend anybody here if I have sorry.
                        Why are we complicating this? Plenty of people consider the Redskins logo racist. Especially if you know the history behind the word "Redskin." I guess I dont get your point.

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                        • Stormyhog
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 5304

                          #87
                          Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                          Originally posted by aholbert32
                          Why are we complicating this? Plenty of people consider the Redskins logo racist. Especially if you know the history behind the word "Redskin." I guess I dont get your point.
                          Sorry if I am complicating matters not meaning to. I guess the subject just get's me to thinking.
                          "If you don't have anything good to say, say it often"- Ed the sock

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                          • Sgt_Carnage
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 949

                            #88
                            Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                            Originally posted by BMDinTDOT
                            I think some of you are complete hypocrites and phonies acting like
                            you or someone you know has never said something in a hateful
                            tirade based off of raw emotion that they didn't really mean or believe.

                            It was said 8 years ago in a private setting where its well documented
                            Hogan was going through the darkest time of his life and he was suicidal.
                            He was even bashing his daughter a little who he adores he lost millions
                            of dollars his son was in a nasty car accident leaving another guy into a
                            vegetable he was obviously messed up mentally especially to bang his
                            good friends wife.

                            Why would so many of Hogans black friends come out and publicly say
                            HES NOT RACIST even though Hogan said in the video he was a racist?

                            Because they know him well enough to determine that he was in a bad
                            place at the time and just talking stupid $hit to somebody. There is no
                            other evidence that Hogan is a racist and not one other person has
                            come out and said they've heard this from Hogan before either.

                            I have no problem and completely understand why WWE got rid of
                            him that's understandable. I will never blame or question why a
                            black person is mad with him or cut him off for good.

                            However there is tons of people online (including many black people)
                            that don't believe Hogan is truly racist despite his remarks in the video.

                            For me personally I don't believe he's truly racist I understand the
                            punishment that's been given to him but I don't think he deserves the
                            Benoit treatment at all.
                            Except you're still glossing over the fact the man said "I Am a racist."

                            And miss me with the well his black friends bs. That's like Sean Hannity finding that one black person to rant about Obama.

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                            • Sheba2011
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 2353

                              #89
                              Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                              While I don't agree with what Hogan said, I find it comical that the WWE is acting so innocent of this all. I have heard and seen far worse over the years on WWE's programming that the words Hogan used. I do think those words should never be used but at the same time until the word completely disappears from all peoples vocabulary it never will.

                              I also find it weird that people can really defend using a racial term as the name of a team just because it is their home team. The term Redskin is not a proud word for any Native American, I know plenty of them who view that word the same way black people view the N word. If we had a team called the N words would people still be defending it? The Redskins can easily change their name to something like Redhawks and keep the same uniforms and after a season no one would even care.

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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #90
                                Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                                Originally posted by Sheba2011
                                While I don't agree with what Hogan said, I find it comical that the WWE is acting so innocent of this all. I have heard and seen far worse over the years on WWE's programming that the words Hogan used. I do think those words should never be used but at the same time until the word completely disappears from all peoples vocabulary it never will.

                                I also find it weird that people can really defend using a racial term as the name of a team just because it is their home team. The term Redskin is not a proud word for any Native American, I know plenty of them who view that word the same way black people view the N word. If we had a team called the N words would people still be defending it? The Redskins can easily change their name to something like Redhawks and keep the same uniforms and after a season no one would even care.
                                Really? Really?

                                So A) You've heard worse than what Hogan has said thus far on WWE tv? Please, enlighten the rest of us on this. I'm dying to see this.

                                And B) What do the Washington Redskins have to do with this? If you really like Hulk Hogan, that's fine, but come on with this dude. Maybe you haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to the story, but there's a WHOLE LOT of people that have problems with the Redskins name, but the owner of the team is the only one that can change it and he ain't budging. Pretty much the only group of people I've seen "defending" the Redskins are Redskins fans and even their fanbase is divided over the issue. Bottomline, get out of here with that nonsense comparison.

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