Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG

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  • TheDominator273
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    • Feb 2013
    • 1065

    #16
    Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG

    I think the Grizzlies are tanking for Derrick Rose who headlines the draft class. Although they do have a young Mike Conley starting and a talented but hasn't broken though yet Kyle Lowry on the bench so their best bet might actually be Kevin Love or OJ Majo who would both fill positions of need and are well regarded prospects in their own right. Also in their defense I made the Pau Gasol to the Lakers trade far earlier in the season than it actually happened. Marc Gasol is still young and hasn't developed into the player we know him to have become (part of what makes this so fun to me, it's going to be so interesting to see the different career arcs of players).

    I need to create the box score for it still, but the next installment is KG's return to the Target Center...

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    • TheDominator273
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      • Feb 2013
      • 1065

      #17
      Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG




      It was the matchup every Wolves fan had circled on their calendar since the news broke on July 31st that Kevin Garnett, Da Kid, The Big Ticket, the best player in franchise history, was being shipped to the Boston Celtics in what felt like Kevin McHale doing his ol' buddy Danny Ainge a favor. On this blustery Saturday night in Minnesota however, the players sent from the Celtics to the Wolves were determined to show that they were more than a bag of cast off parts as the Wolves stormed to a huge first half lead ead by a balanced scoring attack and a block party by Al Jefferson.

      Not to be outdone by his former Celtic now Timberwolf teammates, Corey Brewer was a lockdown defender as he hounded Paul Pierce all game long, holding the star wing to 15 points on a poor 6-15 shooting performance. Brewer continues to show an all around game, playing hounding defense, grabbing rebounds, distributing the ball, and taking shots within his current capabilities *cough* fast break dunks *cough*.

      The battle that did not disappoint and was the clear headline on the night was the low post battle between Kevin Garnett and Al Jefferson. Garnett won the war, but Jefferson won plenty of battles along the way, tallying 2 blocks against the former Timberwolf star. However down the stretch it was Garnett who was able to score consistently while leading the Celtics back from a 23 point deficit, bringing his new team 1 point deep in the 4th quarter. The game saving play belonged to the man known as Big Al, as the plodding center not known for his defense, picked up his 4th block of the game with 20 seconds to play on a Rajon Rondo layup attempt.

      After the game it had to warm the hearts of Wolves fans to see KG embrace Jefferson at half court and have what appeared to be a conversation with some words of wisdom that finished with KG patting Big Al on the head and butt in what Timberwolves fans can only hope was the passing of the torch.





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      • TheDominator273
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        • Feb 2013
        • 1065

        #18
        Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG




        John Calipari was honest with his team when it was about to start overtime.

        "I told them, 'This is very painful to sit here and be in this,'" the coach of No. 2 Memphis told his team after 40 minutes against Southern California (No. 24 AP) produced a 54-54 tie.

        The 8,300 fans at the Jimmy V Classic at Madison Square Garden on Tuesday night had the same painful feeling Calipari did.

        Play didn't improve in the overtime, but the Tigers had enough to beat the Trojans 62-58.

        The game was billed as a matchup of star freshmen, Rose for Memphis and Mayo for Southern Cal, but both struggled. Rose was 3-for-9 from the field and had five turnovers.

        "The hype sometimes you want to be that person but that comes with the territory," Rose said. "You want all the hype. You just go out and play hard and you'll get it but you've got to make sure you don't get too big headed when you get it."

        Mayo was 6-for-20 from the field -- including missing seven straight shots over the last 14 minutes of regulation and the first 4:45 of overtime.

        "I'm just trying to get better as a player," Mayo said. "I'm not perfect, but I strive to be perfect. Nobody plays perfect but I just try to get better."

        Rose gave Memphis the lead for good with two free throws 39 seconds into overtime and Douglas-Roberts made it 58-54 with a putback.

        Mayo's basket with 15 seconds left was Southern Cal's first field goal in 12:38 and made it 61-58.

        Rose made one of two free throws with 12 seconds left for the final margin.








        Derrick Rose, the 6'3" Freshman PG from Memphis is well regarded as the consensus #1 overall pick in the upcoming NBA Draft, and although he had an off night overall its easy to see the skillset that scouts are in love with.

        Strengths
        - Great size for the position
        - Incredible speed and athleticism
        - Strong finisher around the rim
        - Displays solid vision and passing ability when attacking the rim

        Weaknesses
        - Jumpshot mechanics are not fluid, not a great shooter overall
        - Flashy dribbler, but not great handles overall. Creates space with athleticism over deception and solid ball handling
        - Leadership ability is questionable. Appears to coast through games

        Player Comparison - Dwayne Wade
        Wade was just like Rose when he came out of Marquette. Both have bigger bodies for guards, and can score and play defense. Their primary way of scoring is getting to the hole, so the similarities continue there as well.

        Whether Rose will be able to enhance his game at the next level remains to be seen, but the two have definite parallels.





        Strengths
        - Explosive, microwave scorer
        - Plays with confidence and swagger, will shoot himself out of slumps
        - Possesses great shooting range, 3 pt shooting at the NBA level won't be a problem
        - Unorthodox but successful dribble moves paired with elite vertical allow him to get shot off whenever he wants

        Weaknesses
        - Undersized for a SG yet not a playmaker to play PG
        - Doesn't possess elite first step, paired with undersized for playing off ball leads to settling for long jumpers too often
        - Can play good defense when locked in, but this happens to infrequently

        Player Comparison - Ben Gordon
        Just like Gordon, Mayo has the confidence to hoist up a lot of shots, but just like Gordon, Mayo is a streaky shooter who might shoot too much sometimes. Both are cocky, but Mayo carries much more baggage than Gordon ever has.





        *note*
        Game recap pulled from ESPN article
        Strengths/Weaknesses from NBADraft.net
        Player Comparison from Bleacher Report

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        • TheDominator273
          Rookie
          • Feb 2013
          • 1065

          #19
          Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG



          I've had a run of rather non competitive games that haven't been worth posting recaps for, so wanting to keep up the articles I decided to do some more draft prospect profiles. All prospects are being rated along the lines of how they were thought of at the time, not just on what they became. The strengths and weaknesses and player comparisons all come from articles in 2007/08.




          Michael Beasley - 6'8" 239 lb PF/SF

          Strengths
          - Threat to score from anywhere on the court
          - NBA ready body
          - Can finish with either hand
          - Deadly Mid-post ISO game

          Weaknesses
          - Tweener in terms of position. Pushed around by larger 4s, too slow to guard 3s
          - Struggles to attack off the dribble to the right
          - Can turn into a black hole offensively

          Player Comparison: Rasheed Wallace

          Beasley can score both inside and outside, and gets up and down the floor very well for a big guy. There’s no doubting his skill. He has the chance to be even better than Sheed, if he can put all his skills to use and remain focused throughout an entire game.




          Brook Lopez - 7'0" 260 lb C

          Strengths
          - Excellent touch within 15 feet
          - Strong array of post moves
          - Decent shot blocker

          Weaknesses
          - Not fluid athletically
          - Poor shot selection
          - Struggles to guard quicker Centers

          Player Comparison: Samuel Dalembert

          Although Dalembert is most-known for his ridiculous contract, he’s actually a really good center. He averaged a double-double this season, and I can’t stop thinking of Lopez as the white version. They’re both skinnier players that move well.




          Kevin Love - 6'9" 255 lb PF

          Strengths
          - Strong and gifted bigman with high BBIQ
          - Combines advanced post moves with patience to be a threat on the low block
          - Feathery soft touch around the rim
          - Ferocious rebounder and superb outlet passer

          Weaknesses
          - Undersized at 6'9" and not great athletically to make up the difference
          - Appears out of shape and easily winded
          - Struggles to score vs height

          Player Comparison: David West

          They’re similar sizes and have similar skill sets. Love might be a better passer, and can score both in and around the basket. Too small to play the center, I think Love can still be a great post player, just like West.



          Eric Gordon - 6'3" 222 lbs SG

          Strengths
          - Aggressive, explosive scorer
          - Attacks rim aggressively without fear of contact
          - Demonstrates ability to know where to be on the court at all times

          Weaknesses
          - Streaky shooter
          - Takes shots early in shot clock too often
          - Displayed limited playmaking ability

          Player Comparison: Cuttino Mobley

          Gordon can score, like Mobley could in his prime. They’re both bigger guards who can get to the basket, and shoot as well.




          DeAndre Jordan - 6'11" 250 lb C

          Strengths
          - Extremely athletic, especially for his size
          - Tenacious rebounder
          - Runs well in transition
          - Will put anyone on a poster on a moments notice

          Weaknesses
          - Lacks touch outside of 3 feet
          - Over aggressive in seeking out blocks

          Player Comparison: Nene

          They have similar builds and similar games. Nene has shown flashes of great talent and was playing well earlier this season before dealing with a cancer diagnosis. They both play predominantly in the post, and have the muscle to bang down low.




          DJ Augustin - 5'11" 172 lbs PG

          Strengths
          - True pass first point guard that excels in setting up teammates
          - Capable shooter out to NBA range
          - Plays with swagger and displays leadership not usually seen in a player as young as he is

          Weaknesses
          - Undersized for the NBA
          - Ok defender, but needs to add strength to deal with larger NBA guards

          Player Comparison: Mike Bibby

          Both players are smaller guards that can score as well as pass while not being much to write home about defensively. In addition, both were winners coming out of college.




          Russell Westbrook - 6'3" 192 lbs PG/SG

          Strengths
          - Elite athleticism, among fastest players in the NCAA
          - Great length for PG
          - Finishes well at the rim, which he attacks relentlessly.
          - Shows great anticipation defensively

          Weaknesses
          - Needs to develop PG skills to be a true PG in the NBA
          - Needs to add muscle to his frame
          - Free throw shooting is a hindrance, and doesn't bode well for his 3 point shooting ever developing into a strength

          Player Comparison: Randy Foye

          I am making this comparison based on the assumption that Westbrook develops decently. Not to his full potential, but also doesn’t bust. He has been compared to stars such as Dwayne Wade, but also could end up like Fred Jones.

          Regardless of who he’s compared to, Westbrook should be able to bring size, speed, and scoring to whatever team drafts him, just like Foye brings to the Wolves.




          Danilo Gallinari - 6'9" 220 lbs SF

          Strengths
          - Long and crafty player with a knack for scoring
          - Can light it up from deep
          - Vast array of stepbacks and fadeaways

          Weaknesses
          - Athleticism is a question mark compared to NBA athletes
          - Struggles off the dribble vs physical defenders
          - Defensive liability

          Player Comparison: Andrea Bargnani

          Well, I’m not gonna compare this guy to Dirk. I haven’t even seen him play. Every scouting report and rumor I’ve heard say he’s got a game that revolves around shooting and finesse, so I’m going with Bargnani.




          Joe Alexander 6'8" 220 lbs SF

          Strengths
          - Talented wing with a high motor
          - Above the rim athlete who finishes well in traffic
          - Soft touch around the rim
          - Polished turnaround jumper

          Weaknesses
          - Outside shot is inconsistent
          - Needs to improve ability to create off the dribble
          - Sloppy ball handler prevents him from getting to his spots

          Player Comparison - Shawn Marion

          Like the Matrix, Alexander is a great athlete with a surprising touch in the mid range area. If he can develop a more consistent outside shot and tighten up his handles he can develop into a special player.

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          • dfsJunkie
            Pro
            • Apr 2015
            • 852

            #20
            Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG

            This is as dope as it gets, awesome stuff man! Where did you get those screens for the college class?

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            • TheDominator273
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              • Feb 2013
              • 1065

              #21
              Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG

              Originally posted by dfsJunkie
              This is as dope as it gets, awesome stuff man! Where did you get those screens for the college class?
              I created a separate MyLeague and rebranded teams to fit the appropriate teams, then I used the Player DNA to import the player. Loaded up a game and played until I got the screenshots I needed.

              Kevin Love and DeAndre Jordan I created from YouTube videos since they had distinctly different looks in college than they have now. I had to create Joe Alexander from scratch

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              • saintrules
                MVP
                • May 2016
                • 1393

                #22
                Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG

                Ah, back in the good ole days of NCAAB where guys actually played more than one year and didn't all join the same five programs.

                Great win up there against Boston, I'd even say KG won the battle, but Big Al & the 'Wolves won the war. Keep it up man & these draft profiles are fire. Derrick Rose, what was & what could have been, probably the craziest ups and downs of any NBA player I've seen play.
                ~ Return of the King ~

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                • TheDominator273
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                  • Feb 2013
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                  #23
                  Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG

                  Originally posted by saintrules
                  Ah, back in the good ole days of NCAAB where guys actually played more than one year and didn't all join the same five programs.

                  Great win up there against Boston, I'd even say KG won the battle, but Big Al & the 'Wolves won the war. Keep it up man & these draft profiles are fire. Derrick Rose, what was & what could have been, probably the craziest ups and downs of any NBA player I've seen play.
                  Thanks man! I'm finding the player comparisons so funny based on who the players actually turned into. Like Westbrook to Randy Foye is super lol worthy.

                  This draft class was also so deep, looking through the names and only a handful of first round picks haven't carved out long careers in the NBA.
                  Last edited by TheDominator273; 02-20-2019, 02:36 PM.

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                  • dmwendel
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                    • Jan 2019
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                    #24
                    Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG

                    Always love retro dynasties, good luck!

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                    • TheDominator273
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                      • Feb 2013
                      • 1065

                      #25
                      Re: Dancing with Wolves - A Re-Do of Life After KG



                      The Timberwolves got their first look at rookie scoring sensation Kevin Durant tonight, and he lived up to the billing, scoring 30 points on 13-24 shooting. The overall efficiency doesn't look pretty, and he didn't contribute much else, but the ease in which he scored on some of his possessions was jaw dropping and can't help but leave you drooling over what he can develop into.

                      Not to be outdone by Durant however, The Al Jefferson/Randy Foye Pick and Roll was unstoppable as the pair combined for 69 points behind Jefferson's franchise record 54 points on 24-34 from the field shooting. When he wasn't rolling free to the rim, Jefferson was establishing deep post position against the Sonic bigs and easily dropping buckets on their head. Jefferson's 54 points eclipses the old franchise record of 47 points set by Kevin Garnett on 1/4/05 against the Phoenix Suns.

                      While the scoring numbers have Wolves fans giddy, the most encouraging thing of the game was seeing the Foye/Jefferson high pick and roll that the Wolves have been running a lot of lately look like they were Stockton and Malone. The pair has been very hit and miss with their PNR thus far this season, but it seems as if they potentially have figured each other out and if so it adds a whole new dimension to the Wolves offense for opposing teams to gameplan for.




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                      • TheDominator273
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                        • Feb 2013
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                        It's been a while since we've taken a look at the league standings, and what better time to do it than on January 1st, 2008?






                        The Timberwolves have faltered lately as the rest of the Western Conference has taken off, and are currently holding the 2nd worst record in the league. The only team in the league sporting a worse point differential is the Memphis Grizzlies who are far and away the worst team in the league this season behind their -16.3!!??! point differential. Not only are the Grizzlies the lowest scoring team in the league, they also allow the most points per game on the other end.

                        The other surprise takes us over to the Eastern Conference who have lost an astonishing 16 games in a row. They were without star C Dwight Howard for 6 of those games, but this was a team that at the end of November was sporting a 13-7 record and looking like a playoff caliber team. One disastrous December later and they are looking at a top 5 pick in the upcoming NBA Draft.
                        Last edited by TheDominator273; 02-27-2019, 12:56 PM.

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                        • TheDominator273
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                          The Timberwolves kicked off their 2008 with a bang as they travelled to Boston to face Kevin Garnett and the Celtics for the final time this season. Once again the Wolves would bring their A game as they kept the game within 6 points at all times. The game would come down to the final seconds as Sebastian Telfair missed an open mid range jumper with 5 seconds left that would have given the Wolves a 102-101 lead. Instead Kevin Garnett snared the rebound and made both of his free throws on the ensuing foul. Rashad McCants last ditch half court heave hit off the back of the rim and the Celtics held on to win an exciting game.

                          While Al Jefferson deserved player of the game honors, it was Gerald Green who stole the show for the Timberwolves as he dropped 9 points on 3-3 from 3 pt range shooting in the 1st quarter, and threw down a mean poster dunk on Kendrick Perkins late in the 3rd. Meanwhile the Jefferson/Foye Pick and Roll looked impressive again, and if Foye hadn't gotten into foul trouble and eventually fouled out due to guarding the crafty Rajon Rondo, its not unreasonable to think the Wolves would have pulled this one out.

                          On a less bright note, it appears Corey Brewer has hit the rookie wall as he struggled to contain Paul Pierce, and was rather invisible throughout most of the game. We may see his minute load decrease for the next month or so to see if he can bounce back and bring the high energy play he started the season with.




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                          • TheDominator273
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                            • Feb 2013
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                            As we near the February trade deadline we should start to see trade rumors start to pick up. Even teams such as the Timberwolves who are deeply entrenched into being lottery bound could stand to make a move or two. Here are some realistic players the Wolves may be able to acquire before the deadline.




                            The enigma that is Eddy Curry. After being selected 4th overall in the 2001 NBA Draft by the Chicago Bulls, he was traded to the New York Knicks after refusing to take a DNA test for the Bulls who were worried he had a heart condition.

                            In his first season with the Knicks, Curry had a down year compared to previous years, however he bounced back with a career year last season averaging 19.5 points and 7.0 rebounds per game. Unfortunately its starting to look like that season was a mirage rather than a trend as Curry has regressed to averaging just 12.1 points thus far this season. And although his rebounding is slightly up this season to 7.6 boards a game, he is quickly being viewed as a negative contract that the Knicks need to dump in hopes of being players in the free agency market.

                            Why for the Wolves
                            The Timberwolves are a young team and not going anywhere anytime soon. Worst case scenario Curry comes off the bench spelling Al Jefferson while not forcing the team to change its playstyle when Jefferson is off the court, as Curry is a solid low post scorer, even if he brings little else to the table. In addition the Wolves can leverage Antoine Walker's expiring contract to match salaries and get a draft pick sweetener to take on the remaining years of Curry's deal.




                            Webster was drafted 6th overall just 3 years ago, but has thus far failed to live up to expectations when he was billed as a phenom coming out of high school. Webster has struggled to score, and even more concerning score efficiently as he shot just 39.9% and 39.6% from the field his first two seasons, averaging 6.6 and 7.0 points in those seasons. His scoring efficiency has not improved in his 3rd season as he's averaging just 7.2 points on 34.6% shooting so far this season.

                            Why for the Wolves

                            Webster remains talented, and Brandon Roy controls the ball in Portland to the point where Webster may be being misused. When Roy isn't dominating the ball, it's going to Lamarcus Aldridge or Greg Oden leaving Webster to fight for scraps. After this season he has just one year remaining on his contract and with a payday looming in his future we might be able to coax some development out of the youngster.



                            Darius Miles, yet another high school phenom who never really developed in the NBA. That said, instead of looking at what he could have been, let's look at what he is now and how that can help the Timberwolves. While most known for his thunderous dunking ability, Miles also brings solid defense and rebounding from the small forward position averaging just under 5 rebounds a game, along with a steal and a block thus far in his career. Plus with the league trend towards "small ball" and pushing larger small forwards to the power forward position, Miles profiles well as an off the bench swingman for the way the Wolves are currently built.

                            Why for the Wolves
                            Adam Morrison has gotten lost in the shuffle since his Wolves debut in which he scored 27 points. The Wolves have attempted to play him at the power forward position with mixed results, but in the event the Wolves can entice another team to give Morrison a shot (rumors are Phoenix has been kicking the tires on a potential deal) or they trade Antoine Walker, they will be in need of someone to fill some minutes at the 4 and Miles is an intriguing potential option.

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                            • TheDominator273
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                              • Feb 2013
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                              #29
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                              As has been the case in many games this season, the Timberwolves hung tough for the first 3 quarters before getting blown out in the final frame en route to a 115-101 loss to the Utah Jazz. The Jazz showed why they are one of the top teams in the league the way they turned on the intensity in the 4th quarter and were too much for Minnesota to handle.

                              Jazz PG Deron Williams showed why he continues to get underrated amongst NBA circles despite his 22.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 8.5 apg and 1.8 spg average thus far in his 3rd season out of Illinois. They young point guard shows poise and game control beyond his years as he quietly impacts the game until you look at the box score and realize he dropped 28 points and dished out 9 assists.

                              On the Timberwolves side of things, Al Jefferson did what he's done all year and that's put the ball in the basket at a high rate. Unfortunately for the Wolves, no one else really stepped up down the stretch to take the scoring load off of Jefferson and it was very apparent that he was running out of gas down the stretch as a result.

                              Despite having the 2nd highest point total for the team, Gerald Green had an off shooting night as he finished 5-12 from the field. Green has been showing more willingness to attack the rim lately, and it shows as he is getting to the free throw line at a higher rate. Unfortunately for Wolves fans, they cannot combine his offense with Corey Brewer's defense to create one super player, so despite his offensive production Green remains a net negative due to his porous defense.




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                              • TheDominator273
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                                • Feb 2013
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                                The Minnesota Timberwolves and New York Knicks have come to an agreement that sends PF Antoine Walker to New York in exchange for C Eddy Curry.

                                The deal is seen as financial posturing by New York as they set their eyes on free agency in 2010 when they hope they can lure LeBron James to the Big Apple.

                                For the Wolves they pick up a talented, though enigmatic big man who is still young in hopes that they can coax some further development out of him. They still have plenty of cap room to go after free agents this off season, but aren't expected to be major players in free agency at this stage in their rebuild.

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