1964(and on)Philadelphia Phillies Historical Simulation-OOTP 8

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Since my last attempt was abruptly halted,I've decided to start again.This time though we're going to start with the most villified team in Philadelphia sports history,The 1964 Phillies.For anyone who dosen't know the story,here's a little history.Going in to 1964, the Phillies were seen as an up and coming team that had a chance to maybe finish in the top half of the National league.But spurred on by all stars Jim Bunning,Chris Short,Johnny Callison and rookie sensation Dick Allen the Phillies found themselves with a 6 and a half game lead with 12 to play.What happened next is known in Philadelphia simply as the collapse.The Phils proceeded to lose 10 straight games losing the pennant to the Cardinals in the process.The Cardinals would go on to defeat a banged up Yankees team in the World Series 4 games to 3.Before we head back in time to 1964 I thought I'd give everyone a short summary of what Out Of The Park Baseball is all about.OOTP is a baseball management simulation which allows you to relive the history of Major League Baseball starting in any year after 1901.My role in the game is of General Manager and Manager.Here are the ground rules I've chosen to use during this run through history.First,I plan on starting in 1964 and working my way to the present day.Expansion will occur as it did in real life as will team movement.As far as incoming rookies go,rather than having a draft they will be assigned to the team they broke in with.I've chosen to do it this way to get a more accurate simulation.I've set trading to "hard" with preference set to "favor prospects".I will only control the Phillies,every other team is CPU controlled.Lastly,I can be FIRED! If that happens,I will take a job with another team and continue the sim.If anyone has any questions or suggestions don't hesitate to ask I'm always up for new ideas.Ok,lets go back to 1964.......

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1964 Spring Training Roster

Starting Pitchers(5)
Jim Bunning
Chris Short
Ray Culp
Art Mahaffey
Cal McLish
John Boozer
Dave Bennett
Rick Wise

Relief Pitchers(5)
Dallas Green
Gary Kroll
Morrie Steevens
Dennis Bennett
Ryne Duren
Jack Baldschun
Johnny Klippstein
Bobby Locke

Catchers(2)
Gus Triandos
Clay Dalrymple
Pat Corrales

First Base(2)
Roy Sievers
Danny Cater
Costen Shockley
John Herrnstein

Second Base(1)
Tony Taylor

Shortstop(2-3)
Bobby Wine
Reuben Amaro
Cookie Rojas

Third Base(1)
Dick Allen
Don Hoak

Left Field(2)
Wes Covington
Alex Johnson

Center Field(2-3)
Tony Gonzalez
Adlofo Phillips
Johnny Briggs

Right Field(1)
Johnny Callison

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1964 Phillies Spring Training Schedule

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Philadelphia Phillies 03-14-1964 Philadelphia Phillies Schedule March 1964 Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | May | Jun | Jul | Aug | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 vs HOU 1:05 pm 15 @ SFN 2:05 pm 16 @ CHN 7:05 pm 17 vs LAN 7:05 pm 18 @ ML1 7:05 pm 19 vs CIN 7:05 pm 20 @ PIT 7:05 pm 21 @ NYN 1:05 pm 22 vs SLN 2:05 pm 23 @ HOU 7:05 pm 24 vs SFN 7:05 pm 25 vs CHN 7:05 pm 26 27 @ LAN 7:05 pm 28 vs ML1 7:05 pm 29 @ CIN 7:05 pm 30 vs PIT 7:05 pm 31 vs NYN 7:05 pm

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Philadelphia Phillies Schedule April 1964
Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | May | Jun | Jul | Aug | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday 1 @ SLN 7:05 pm 2 vs HOU 1:05 pm 3 @ SFN 7:05 pm 4 @ CHN 1:05 pm 5 vs LAN 3:05 pm 6 @ ML1 7:05 pm 7 vs CIN 2:05 pm 8

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Since my last attempt was abruptly halted,I've decided to start again.This time though we're going to start with the most villified team in Philadelphia sports history,The 1964 Phillies.For anyone who dosen't know the story,here's a little history.Going in to 1964, the Phillies were seen as an up and coming team that had a chance to maybe finish in the top half of the National league.But spurred on by all stars Jim Bunning,Chris Short,Johnny Callison and rookie sensation Dick Allen the Phillies found themselves with a 6 and a half game lead with 12 to play.What happened next is known in Philadelphia simply as the collapse.The Phils proceeded to lose 10 straight games losing the pennant to the Cardinals in the process.The Cardinals would go on to defeat a banged up Yankees team in the World Series 4 games to 3.Before we head back in time to 1964 I thought I'd give everyone a short summary of what Out Of The Park Baseball is all about.OOTP is a baseball management simulation which allows you to relive the history of Major League Baseball starting in any year after 1901.My role in the game is of General Manager and Manager.Here are the ground rules I've chosen to use during this run through history.First,I plan on starting in 1964 and working my way to the present day.Expansion will occur as it did in real life as will team movement.As far as incoming rookies go,rather than having a draft they will be assigned to the team they broke in with.I've chosen to do it this way to get a more accurate simulation.I've set trading to "hard" with preference set to "favor prospects".I will only control the Phillies,every other team is CPU controlled.Lastly,I can be FIRED! If that happens,I will take a job with another team and continue the sim.If anyone has any questions or suggestions don't hesitate to ask I'm always up for new ideas.Ok,lets go back to 1964.......

OOTP8 actually allows you to go all the way back to the very first season, 1876.

I read about that collapse. The Red Sox went through that same kind of collapse 14 years later.

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OOTP8 actually allows you to go all the way back to the very first season, 1876.

I read about that collapse. The Red Sox went through that same kind of collapse 14 years later.

As did the Mets last yearIronicly the Phils were the beneficiary of their collapse.

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Phillies Trade Cal Mclish for slugger Frank Thomas


Clearwater,Fl-Philadelphia Phillies GM John Gindville has just confirmed that the Phils have just made a deal with the New York Mets that will send 38 year old pitcher Cal Mclish to New York for power hitting first baseman/left fielder Frank Thomas.The 34 year old Thomas is in his 14th year of professional service with a lifetime batting average of .267 with 272 career home runs and 900 RBI.He's expected to be the regular first baseman until young Danny Cater is ready for the job.Roy Sievers it seems is the odd man out and will most likely be dealt before the end of spring training.

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Saturday March 14,1964
Colts Shoot Blanks,Fall to Phillies

Clearwater,Fl-The Phillies got started on the right foot this spring with a 4-3 victory over the feisty Colt .45's.Trailing most of the game,the Phils rallied in the bottom of the 9th to score two runs and upend the young Houston team.

ID: 1744 - Saturday, March 14th, 1964 - Game Log

Saturday, March 14th, 1964 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Houston Colt .45's 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 3 10 1 Philadelphia Phillies 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 4 10 0

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Sunday June 16,1964
SF Giants Nip Phils 2-1

Bradenton,Fl-The Phils and Giants played a tight pitching duel today with the Giants coming out on top 2-1.Catcher Tom Haller was the difference maker with a two out two run single in the third.It was all the Giants would need.

Game ID: 1751 - Sunday, March 15th, 1964 - Game Log

Sunday, March 15th, 1964 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Philadelphia Phillies 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 6 1 San Francisco Giants 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 X 2 7 1

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Monday March 16,1964
Gonzalez's 5 RBI's Lead Phils Past Cubs

Spring Training-Phillies Center fielder Tony Gonzalez was 3 for 3 with a home run and 5 RBi's as the Phils cruised past Chicago 9-3 in todays spring training contest.Johnny Callison also chipped in knocking in 2.For the Cubbies,Young outfielder Lou Brock was impressive going 3 for 3 and scoring a run.

Game ID: 1756 - Monday, March 16th, 1964 - Game Log

Monday, March 16th, 1964 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Philadelphia Phillies 0 3 0 3 3 0 0 0 0 9 14 1 Chicago Cubs 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 3 10 2

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Tuesday March 17,1964
Wise Roughed Up In 5-3 Loss

Clearwater,Fl.-In a very entertaining game,the LA Dodgers came to Clearwater and escaped with a 5-3 win on the strength of a diving catch off of the bat of Frank Thomas made by Tommy Davis with two outs and the bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th.

Game ID: 1759 - Tuesday, March 17th, 1964 - Game Log

Tuesday, March 17th, 1964 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Los Angeles Dodgers 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 2 5 10 0 Philadelphia Phillies 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 3 4 0

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Wednesday March 18,1964
8 Run 7th Propels Phils Past Braves

Florida,-The Phils turned a close ballgame ugly when in the top of the 7th they sent 9 men to the plate without recording an out on their way to scoring 8 runs on on 6 hits and 4 walks in just the 7th inning! They would win by the score of 11-5 with Johnny Callison again leading the way with 4 RBI's.For the spring Callison is batting .421 with 1 home run and 8 RBI's.

Game ID: 1764 - Wednesday, March 18th, 1964 - Game Log

Wednesday, March 18th, 1964 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Philadelphia Phillies 1 0 1 0 0 0 8 1 0 11 12 0 Milwaukee Braves 2 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 5 13 0

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Reds Upend Phillies 5-3

Clearwater,Fl-Vada Pinson's 3 run homer in the top of the first paved the way for the Reds 5-3 victory over Philadelphia today.Tony Taylor was 3 for 4 with 2 RBI's in the loss.

Game ID: 1770 - Thursday, March 19th, 1964 - Game Log

Thursday, March 19th, 1964 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Cincinnati Reds 3 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 5 15 2 Philadelphia Phillies 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 3 8 0

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Well,I've been a little under the weather for the past week and a half so I wasn't able to post the rest of spring training.The Phils finished the spring with a 9-15 record.Here's the final spring stats.

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Philadelphia Phillies 04-08-1964 Basic Batting Stats Report - Split: Spring Training Select Set: BasicExpanded Select Split: OverallVersus LeftVersus RightThis WeekLast WeekJanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecemberAll-Star GameSpring TrainingExhibitionPlayoffsLast Year2 Years AgoCareerHomeRoadGrassTurfDayNightPinch HittingClose/LateInning 1-3Inning 4-6Inning 7-9Extra Innings0 Outs1 Outs2 OutsScoring PositionBases EmptyRunner on 1stRunner on 2ndRunner on 3rdRunner on 1st & 2ndRunner on 1st & 3rdRunner on 2nd & 3rdBases LoadedTwo StrikesFirst PitchCount 0-1Count 0-2Count 1-0Count 1-1Count 1-2Count 2-0Count 2-1Count 2-2Count 3-0Count 3-1Full CountBehind in CountAhead in Count Name G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Johnny Callison RF 24 92 17 36 9 1 7 26 68 5 12 0 1 .391 .418 .739 1.157 Tony Taylor 2B 22 77 9 25 6 1 0 7 33 3 11 0 1 .325 .366 .429 .794 Dick Allen 3B 23 66 12 17 2 0 1 1 22 5 10 0 1 .258 .310 .333 .643 Tony Gonzalez CF 22 65 8 18 5 1 1 11 28 7 11 0 0 .277 .342 .431 .773 Clay Dalrymple C 22 63 7 18 4 0 0 5 22 5 5 1 0 .286 .333 .349 .683 Frank Thomas LF 23 63 6 11 0 0 1 6 14 4 15 0 0 .175 .217 .222 .440 Wes Covington LF 24 61 11 27 9 2 2 14 46 8 4 0 0 .443 .514 .754 1.268 Bobby Wine SS 20 42 6 5 1 0 0 4 6 5 9 0 0 .119 .213 .143 .356 Cookie Rojas SS 22 40 6 8 2 0 0 1 10 6 3 1 0 .200 .313 .250 .563 Gus Triandos C 19 34 4 9 0 0 3 9 18 4 2 0 0 .265 .375 .529 .904 Danny Cater 1B 19 32 5 9 1 0 1 7 13 1 2 0 0 .281 .324 .406 .730 Adolfo Phillips CF 18 23 3 6 2 0 0 1 8 2 2 2 0 .261 .308 .348 .656 Alex Johnson LF 20 20 5 2 0 0 0 1 2 2 3 0 0 .100 .182 .100 .282 Johnny Briggs CF 21 18 4 4 0 0 0 4 4 6 2 2 0 .222 .417 .222 .639 Don Hoak 3B 19 18 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 4 0 0 .056 .056 .056 .111 Ruben Amaro SS 17 17 2 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 3 0 0 .059 .150 .059 .209 Pat Corrales C 17 16 2 4 0 0 0 2 4 1 0 0 0 .250 .278 .250 .528 Roy Sievers 1B 9 12 3 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 .083 .083 .083 .167 Ryne Duren MR 11 8 0 1 1 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 0 .125 .125 .250 .375 John Herrnstein 1B 6 8 1 4 1 0 0 0 5 0 1 0 0 .500 .500 .625 1.125 Art Mahaffey SP 5 8 0 4 1 0 0 2 5 0 0 0 0 .500 .500 .625 1.125 Jim Bunning SP 5 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 Chris Short SP 5 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 Dallas Green MR 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 Dennis Bennett MR 12 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 .000 .600 .000 .600 John Boozer SP 4 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .500 Ray Culp SP 5 4 2 1 0 0 1 1 4 3 2 0 0 .250 .571 1.000 1.571 Bobby Locke MR 12 4 0 1 0 0 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 .250 .400 .250 .650 Costen Shockley 1B 6 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 Johnny Klippstein MR 5 3 0 1 0 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 .333 .333 1.000 1.333 Jack Baldschun CL 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 Dave Bennett SP 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 Cal McLish SP 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 Rick Wise MR 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 Gary Kroll MR 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 Morrie Steevens MR 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000

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Philadelphia Phillies 04-08-1964 Basic Pitching Stats Report - Split: Spring Training Select Set: BasicExpandedExpanded 2Opponent Select Split: OverallVersus LeftVersus RightThis WeekLast WeekJanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecemberAll-Star GameSpring TrainingExhibitionPlayoffsLast Year2 Years AgoCareerHomeRoadGrassTurfDayNight Name W L SV ERA G GS IP HA R ER HR BB K WHIP OAVG BABIP Morrie Steevens MR 0 0 0 0.00 1 0 0.0 1 2 2 0 3 0 0.00 1.000 1.000 Gary Kroll MR 0 0 0 0.00 2 0 1.0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1.00 .000 .000 Jack Baldschun CL 0 0 1 0.00 5 0 6.0 4 0 0 0 5 3 1.50 .182 .211 Bobby Locke MR 2 4 1 2.86 12 0 22.0 25 12 7 0 4 10 1.32 .281 .316 Cal McLish SP 0 0 0 3.00 1 0 3.0 3 1 1 0 1 4 1.33 .273 .429 Art Mahaffey SP 2 1 0 3.32 5 5 19.0 16 7 7 2 5 10 1.11 .235 .250 Ray Culp SP 0 2 0 3.48 5 5 20.2 15 8 8 1 12 19 1.31 .205 .264 Dennis Bennett MR 1 0 0 3.73 12 0 31.1 29 14 13 2 15 21 1.40 .254 .297 Chris Short SP 1 3 0 3.79 5 5 19.0 22 10 8 1 10 20 1.68 .282 .368 John Boozer SP 2 0 0 3.94 4 4 16.0 21 7 7 1 6 15 1.69 .333 .426 Johnny Klippstein MR 1 1 0 4.05 5 0 6.2 8 3 3 0 2 5 1.50 .296 .364 Dave Bennett SP 0 0 0 4.15 3 0 4.1 5 2 2 1 2 0 1.62 .313 .267 Jim Bunning SP 0 1 0 4.43 5 5 20.1 31 11 10 4 0 15 1.52 .341 .375 Ryne Duren MR 0 0 0 4.62 11 0 25.1 27 13 13 2 6 19 1.30 .273 .321 Dallas Green MR 0 2 0 5.79 5 0 14.0 22 9 9 3 5 8 1.93 .367 .388 Rick Wise MR 0 1 0 6.75 3 0 4.0 7 3 3 0 1 0 2.00 .389 .389

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1964 Philadelphia Phillies Opening Day Roster

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Philadelphia Phillies 04-08-1964 Roster Page Active Roster Pitchers Pos Team Age DOB POB Nat. Bats Throws Height Weight Salary Boozer, John SP Philadelphia Phillies 25 07-06-1938 Columbia USA Right Right 6' 3" 205 lbs $19,793 Bunning, Jim SP Philadelphia Phillies 32 10-23-1931 Southgate USA Right Right 6' 3" 195 lbs $674,500 Culp, Ray SP Philadelphia Phillies 22 08-06-1941 Elgin USA Right Right 6' 0" 200 lbs $19,793 Mahaffey, Art SP Philadelphia Phillies 25 06-04-1938 Cincinnati USA Right Right 6' 2" 200 lbs - Short, Chris SP Philadelphia Phillies 26 09-19-1937 Milford USA Right Left 6' 3" 207 lbs $314,551 Bennett, Dennis MR Philadelphia Phillies 24 10-05-1939 Oakland USA Left Left 6' 5" 205 lbs $19,793 Duren, Ryne MR Philadelphia Phillies 35 02-22-1929 Cazenovia USA Right Right 6' 0" 197 lbs $306,408 Klippstein, Johnny MR Philadelphia Phillies 36 10-17-1927 Washington USA Right Right 6' 0" 185 lbs $28,700 Locke, Bobby MR Philadelphia Phillies 30 03-03-1934 Unknown USA Right Right 5' 10" 185 lbs $36,304 Baldschun, Jack CL Philadelphia Phillies 27 10-16-1936 Greenville USA Right Right 6' 0" 190 lbs $113,736 Catchers Pos Team Age DOB POB Nat. Bats Throws Height Weight Salary Triandos, Gus C Philadelphia Phillies 33 07-30-1930 San Francisco USA Right Right 6' 3" 215 lbs $52,500 Dalrymple, Clay C Philadelphia Phillies 27 12-03-1936 Chico USA Left Right 6' 0" 199 lbs $133,878 Infielders Pos Team Age DOB POB Nat. Bats Throws Height Weight Salary Sievers, Roy 1B Philadelphia Phillies 37 11-18-1926 St. Louis USA Right Right 6' 0" 195 lbs - Cater, Danny 1B Philadelphia Phillies 24 02-25-1940 Austin USA Right Right 6' 0" 180 lbs $19,793 Taylor, Tony 2B Philadelphia Phillies 28 12-19-1935 Unknown CUB Right Right 5' 8" 179 lbs $28,560 Allen, Dick 3B Philadelphia Phillies 22 03-08-1942 Unknown USA Right Right 5' 10" 190 lbs $19,793 Wine, Bobby SS Philadelphia Phillies 25 09-17-1938 New York USA Right Right 6' 0" 187 lbs $19,793 Rojas, Cookie SS Philadelphia Phillies 25 03-06-1939 Havana CUB Right Right 5' 10" 170 lbs $19,793 Amaro, Ruben SS Philadelphia Phillies 28 01-06-1936 Veracruz MEX Right Right 5' 10" 170 lbs $20,003 Outfielders Pos Team Age DOB POB Nat. Bats Throws Height Weight Salary Covington, Wes LF Philadelphia Phillies 32 03-27-1932 Laurinburg USA Left Right 6' 0" 205 lbs $546,006 Thomas, Frank LF Philadelphia Phillies 34 06-11-1929 Pittsburgh USA Right Right 6' 3" 205 lbs $92,505 Johnson, Alex LF Philadelphia Phillies 21 12-07-1942 Helena USA Right Right 6' 0" 205 lbs $19,793 Gonzalez, Tony CF Philadelphia Phillies 27 08-28-1936 Unknown CUB Left Right 5' 8" 170 lbs $223,383 Briggs, Johnny CF Philadelphia Phillies 20 03-10-1944 Paterson USA Left Left 6' 0" 195 lbs $19,793 Callison, Johnny RF Philadelphia Phillies 25 03-12-1939 Unknown USA Left Right 5' 10" 175 lbs $784,482 Disabled List Player Pos Team Age DOB POB Nat. Bats Throws Height Weight Salary Kroll, Gary MR Philadelphia Phillies 22 07-08-1941 Culver City USA Right Right 6' 5" 220 lbs -

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64' Phillies April Schedule

12	13	14 vs NYN 7:05 pm	15 vs NYN 7:05 pm	16	17 @ CHN 3:05 pm	18 @ CHN 3:05 pm
19 @ CHN 3:05 pm	20 @ NYN 2:05 pm	21 @ NYN 2:05 pm	22 vs PIT 8:05 pm	23 vs PIT 8:05 pm	24 vs CHN 8:05 pm	25 vs CHN 7:05 pm
26 vs CHN 2:05 pm	27	28 @ CIN 7:05 pm	29 @ CIN 7:05 pm	30 @ CIN 7:05 pm