Whats the BEST BCS Conference?

[Cebby]

Re: Whats the BEST BCS Conference?

Not arguing with you bro, but that was just an example I gave because those matchups were freshest in my memory. What I'm saying is that many ACC fans in ACC country get tired of hearing how good the SEC is in football and come up with stupid arguments to the contrary instead of just admitting how good the SEC has been. I don't recall many SEC fans doing this when the ACC got all that hype in basketball--especially in the 80s and 90s when the ACC had so many good bball teams.

I don't think it's really an ACC/SEC thing.

It's really only three schools in the ACC. Two are significantly inferior programs to their SEC rival and while Clemson and USC are about equal and Clemson has owned USC, Clemson is 2-11 since 1991 against the rest of the SEC. Those three know that they should be in the SEC, but due to their own actions they are not.

I don't really see much venom from the NC schools or the northern schools.

It's the same reason that most of the SEC hate from the Big 10 is from Ohio State. Ohio State couldn't beat an SEC team if their life depended on it while the other schools have been solid to good.

[RamblinWreck21]

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but if any offense is painful to watch I think it's GT.

This statement proves you haven't watched GT. GT was 10th in the nation in total offense, 2nd in rushing, 18th in 1st downs, 4th in 3rd down conversions, 8th in fourth down conversions, 10th in total points, and 5th in points per a game. So we don't pass, that hasn't effected our offense according to the offensive ranks. GT averaged 10.6 yards a completion which would be first in the nation if they qualified, so when they do pass it, it goes for a lot of yards. Also, GT had 37 plays of 20 or more yards.....I could go on, but that statement really pissed me off. Please don't call one of the most effective offenses painful to watch.

[ZB9]

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It's not overly difficult.

It took me about 2 minutes to collect the point per game numbers.

usually your fax are on point Ceb

but I think ill call BS on those percentages you listed lol

[OSUFan_88]

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sec from bottom to top clearly the best as a lot of you have said..
i mean if you put miss. state in the big 12 north they would win the north easily. and maybe even the big 12 championship game
i know a lot of you dont want to hear it but its the truth

What?

There is a reason they are called Mistake. They'd get pounded in a lot of conferences, including the B-12 north. In fact, they'd probably be the 3rd or 4th team in the North.

[Sportsforever]

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This statement proves you haven't watched GT. GT was 10th in the nation in total offense, 2nd in rushing, 18th in 1st downs, 4th in 3rd down conversions, 8th in fourth down conversions, 10th in total points, and 5th in points per a game. So we don't pass, that hasn't effected our offense according to the offensive ranks. GT averaged 10.6 yards a completion which would be first in the nation if they qualified, so when they do pass it, it goes for a lot of yards. Also, GT had 37 plays of 20 or more yards.....I could go on, but that statement really pissed me off. Please don't call one of the most effective offenses painful to watch.

Isn't painful to watch personal preference? I didn't say they aren't effective, it's just I personally don't enjoy watching teams that run 85% of time.

He said he thought watching SEC offenses was painful...I was just point out that Georgia Tech's offense isn't the most fun to watch.

[Cebby]

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usually your fax are on point Ceb

but I think ill call BS on those percentages you listed lol

I don't think I listed any percentages.

[ZB9]

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I don't think I listed any percentages.

ok I call BS on those numbers

dont know why I typed percentages

anyway, like I said, your stats are usually spot on

[aimiami]

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Nonsense.

not really theyve got the most underated defense in the country. sure there offense isnt the greatest but nethier is nebraskas and look where they are.
heres some of the teams they played and won (or close)
LSU lost by 4
Georgia tech lost by 11
Florida lost by 10. and the game was closer then 10 points (cant listen to the scoreboard evrey time)
and the last game of the season they beat ole miss by 14

Miss. state is a good team.
i dont see a single big 12 north team coming close to Florida or LSU

[Cebby]

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ok I call BS on those numbers

dont know why I typed percentages

anyway, like I said, your stats are usually spot on

I just ran them again and they are correct.

I don't know why you'd doubt them.

The SEC had some pretty bad offenses from 2002-2008, but last year Auburn and Arkansas took huge strides putting up three games of at least 38 points against BCS teams where in 2008 they combined to score 27 points. Florida showed significantly less mercy on Cinci than they did on Miami and Oklahoma in 2008. Vandy and Mistake each dropped 31 on GTech compared to their 33 points in 3 games in 2008.

The SEC scored 30+ in 13 of their 23 BCS conference games. Compared to 2008 and 2007 when they accomplished that in 15 out of 42 games.

[Cebby]

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not really theyve got the most underated defense in the country. sure there offense isnt the greatest but nethier is nebraskas and look where they are.
heres some of the teams they played and won (or close)
LSU lost by 4
Georgia tech lost by 11
Florida lost by 10. and the game was closer then 10 points (cant listen to the scoreboard evrey time)
and the last game of the season they beat ole miss by 14

Miss. state is a good team.
i dont see a single big 12 north team coming close to Florida or LSU

Mistake is not a good team.

I could see them making a bowl game in another conference but the only division they'd ever have a chance in would be the mid-2000s Big XII North the year the North didn't win a game against anyone but Baylor in the South and maybe the ACC Atlantic, but those would even be long shots.

[RamblinWreck21]

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Isn't painful to watch personal preference? I didn't say they aren't effective, it's just I personally don't enjoy watching teams that run 85% of time.

He said he thought watching SEC offenses was painful...I was just point out that Georgia Tech's offense isn't the most fun to watch.

Ok fair enough. He was saying SEC offenses were painful to watch because there are some mediocre-to-bad offenses in it, so I assumed your comment meant the same thing About GT's offense since you used the same wording.

[CYST2000]

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Aren't most of the major bowl games played in the land of the SEC? So isn't that kinda of a home field advantage.

[aimiami]

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well if they have a chance against the ACC atlantic then they definatley have a chance against the big 12 north

[Cebby]

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Aren't most of the major bowl games played in the land of the SEC? So isn't that kinda of a home field advantage.

The only conference that doesn't play most of its games in home territory or close to it is the Big 10.

The SEC has:

BCS Championship game (neutral regardless of location given how expensive tickets are)
Sugar vs At Large (sometimes home game)
Cap1 vs Big 10 (home)
Outback vs Big 10 (Home)
Peach vs ACC (neutral)
Cotton vs Big XII (road)
Liberty vs CUSA (relatively even; most advantage is in larger fanbases)
Independence vs Big XII (slight edge)
Music City vs ACC (slight edge)

Independence and Music City depend more on who is playing who. Then again, home field doesn't seem to matter since the bowls the SEC has fared the worst in are vs the Big 10.

For the most part, any advantage in location is more than given up in the huge seeding differences.

[Sportsforever]

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Ok fair enough. He was saying SEC offenses were painful to watch because there are some mediocre-to-bad offenses in it, so I assumed your comment meant the same thing About GT's offense since you used the same wording.

Nah...I actually enjoy watching GT highlights and seeing them bust a big play. It's just that if I have a choice to watch them or a more conventional offense I'll flip to the folks passing the ball around.