Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[acts238shaun]

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Better not be no stinkin pods from the WAC days. 2 divisions. 8 teams each.

Didn't think of that. Good point.

[Perfect Zero]

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But with that setup, you basically have a 4-team playoff for the championship. What if, say, LSU, and Mississippi State don't play, yet are tied for first in that half. Who goes to the title game?

EDIT: i see your other edit now... there won't be playoffs to determine conference champions. I can tell you that much.

Why not? There's money to be had in playoffs right?

If you don't split it up like this, you're going to have about six or seven teams every year that don't have a snowball's chance in hell of going anywhere. You have to split it up in order to have some sort of competition for all teams.

You don't even have to have a playoff if you don't want to. If you have to play four teams from another division every year, then the rotating divisions could act as the basis for the Championship itself. So in my example, the team with the better record from the combined Atlantic and Western Divisions would make the Championship because they all played each other. Then the next year when the Western Division takes on the Norther Division, the team with the best record out of that pairing would make the Championship because they had an equal schedule.

I'm trying to make it to where there is some variety. More variety means more eyes watching the conference. More variety means more people taking road trips to places that they've never been before. More variety means more money.

[Cusefan]

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If the ACC is smart they will strike first and invite Syracuse, Uconn, and Rutgers to tie up the Northeast region. With the loss of FSU and Clemson that puts them at 13 teams. I say then go for West Virgina or Pittsburgh to get to 14.

I have to imagine as I am typing this message, there is some serious chatter going on between the AD of these schools. A move for the teams you just mentioned would be a lateral move at best and a step back in Basketball. The Big East tournament in MSG is second only to the NCAA Tourney, granted playing Duke and UNC is appealing but teams like Syracuse or UCONN do not want to lose their footprint in NYC. As far as football goes, with the Addition of TCU, The Big East will be as good if not better than the ACC. Take Syracuse for Example, Orange Basketball is bigger than alot of other Pro Sports teams(even a few NFL teams), Making a switch to the ACC or even Big 10 is a huge risk. Syracuse has a golden goose in Madison Square Garden, Leaving for the ACC just would not be a good move imo.

Right now the Biggest threat to the Big East is the Big 10. I feel like they had their chance to pick up BE teams and passed so why do it this time?

[Cusefan]

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Mizzou AD denies these reports, but then again, they all do.

[rspencer86]

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Mizzou AD denies these reports, but then again, they all do.

Lesson learned from how the Mizzou-to-Big10 rumors were handled last year.

[MagicMan1315]

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Texas A&M apparently made official this morning, announcement expected Monday

ESPN report

[Marino]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

Clemson seems like the most obvious pick to expand the SEC East. Would South Carolina have a problem with that?

Yeah, the Cocks don't want Klumpson in the SEC. And also about Duke/UNC, you know the 4 ACC schools in North Carolina are basically all tied together, they would all have to go which is why that would not work for Duke/UNC.

[Redacted01]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

Texas A&M apparently made official this morning, announcement expected Monday

ESPN report

A little late to the party haha.

[MagicMan1315]

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A little late to the party haha.

Ahhh sorry! haha I wasnt sure.. haven't been watching ESPN at all lately.

Carry on..

[alphaguy5]

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Interesting.

WVU to ACC?

We need the VT vs. WVU rivalry again.

[xkevin]

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The SEC doesn't need to expand. I don't get the point of this.

[simgamer0005]

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Why not? There's money to be had in playoffs right?

If you don't split it up like this, you're going to have about six or seven teams every year that don't have a snowball's chance in hell of going anywhere. You have to split it up in order to have some sort of competition for all teams.

this is why bigger conferences create such a logistical problem, and it doesnt crown a true champion like it did before.

You don't even have to have a playoff if you don't want to. If you have to play four teams from another division every year, then the rotating divisions could act as the basis for the Championship itself.

That's the issue is that the rotating divisions are acting as the basis for the Championship itself. We've gone away from just playing a conference schedule and using traditional tiebreakers to determine bowl representatives. i think this is a fair point because one of the usual arguments against having a playoff is that they want to maintain the bowl system and having the regular season be important. Expansion just devalues the regular season because when there's more teams in a conference, less teams get to play each other in that conference throughout the season.

I'm trying to make it to where there is some variety. More variety means more eyes watching the conference. More variety means more people taking road trips to places that they've never been before. More variety means more money.

Variety? How about just playing the teams in your conference and the team with the best record wins? anything is better than this. these bigger conferences create a situation BCS tiebreaker comes into play, which is determine in large part by voting. (to where who the elites think is better gets to win play for the conference championship)

it's one thing to have rankings determine who is #1 at the end of the bowl season. it's another thing to have rankings determine who is #1 or #2 at the end of regular season deciding who will play in the BCS championship game. it's yet another thing to have the rankings determine who wins thrown-together divisions of teams in a conference if teams are tied.

this has snowballed over the years into what we have now, where conferences want to expand. Look at what is happening to the BigXII. Their teams have been running for the hills. And the worst thing about it is now other conferences have some of their teams. So it's like these conferences that take BigXII teams in loses its former identify. The Pac 12? Does that sound right? all these conferences are no longer competing with the BigXII. Because now it's the Big10, tomorrow it could be the Big9 or the Big6. Maybe then they can change it's name to the Big6 since another conference isn't named it. In the past few years, it was always about who is the best conference. I always though that argument was pointless any way as it should be about teams before conferences. Now it's obvious who are the best conferences based on who is leaving who for who. The BigXII used to have 12 teams. That was why it was re-named the BigXII after it added teams from the Big 8.

[Hoosiers86IU]

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I have to imagine as I am typing this message, there is some serious chatter going on between the AD of these schools. A move for the teams you just mentioned would be a lateral move at best and a step back in Basketball. The Big East tournament in MSG is second only to the NCAA Tourney, granted playing Duke and UNC is appealing but teams like Syracuse or UCONN do not want to lose their footprint in NYC. As far as football goes, with the Addition of TCU, The Big East will be as good if not better than the ACC. Take Syracuse for Example, Orange Basketball is bigger than alot of other Pro Sports teams(even a few NFL teams), Making a switch to the ACC or even Big 10 is a huge risk. Syracuse has a golden goose in Madison Square Garden, Leaving for the ACC just would not be a good move imo.

Right now the Biggest threat to the Big East is the Big 10. I feel like they had their chance to pick up BE teams and passed so why do it this time?

Cusefan, here is a thought. Perhaps the Big East will invite Boston College back to the fold if FSU and Clemson leave the ACC. BC seems out of place in the ACC and most of their rivals are still in the Big East.

[simgamer0005]

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The SEC doesn't need to expand. I don't get the point of this.

Me either. I don't get the point of any of this expansion. The old conferences were fine. There was tradition. You know who was in what conference. Now it's like musical chairs.

[Marino]

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Interesting.

WVU to ACC?

We need the VT vs. WVU rivalry again.

Won't happen, WVU does not meet academic requirements of the ACC.