Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

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  • bkrich83
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    • Jul 2002
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    #151
    Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

    Originally posted by AUChase
    I know people are high on Hugh Freeze and all, but Ole Miss beat this teams in 2012.. I'll preface this by saying, That guy is probably a PBU and doesn't represent everyone from the SEC or Ole Miss, but even a lot of the people calling in are extremely high on them.

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    They lost or got blown out (31-66 at TX) by every credible team on the schedule. (Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Texas, A&M, and even Vandy if you want to stretch it). I get it.. people are excited about Ole Miss for the first time since Eli Manning, but damn. Let's wait until they start beating someone decent again.
    A good but not great Texas team dropped 66 points on them, put up nearly 700 yards of total offense and beat them by 35. In Oxford, no less.

    They aren't very far removed from losing to Jacksonville St. They have a plethora of non-BCS conference losses recently.

    The notion that Ole Miss would be a favorite in any other conference, is typical SEC blowhard BS we get around here. Yet SEC fans seem bewildered when they get backlash.
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    • AUChase
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      • Jul 2008
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      #152
      Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

      Would also like to apologize for my grammar. It's typically bad, but posting from my phone makes it even worse. Autocorrect and my fingers get the best of me sometimes.

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      • Chrisksaint
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        #153
        Ole Miss would still be ****ty Ole Miss in any other conference, the only time they ever compete with real teams in the SEC is when LSU has kind of a down year and do their typical playing down to opponents.
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        • canesfins
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          • Jul 2012
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          #154
          Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

          I hate the arguemenet of some SEC fans that say stuff like "The only reason Kentucky is a cellar dweller is because their in the SEC!"

          Yeah, no.

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          • jeremym480
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            • Oct 2008
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            #155
            Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

            I'm not sure why I'm going to defend Ole Miss *sighs
            but in my opinion they are on the upswing under Freeze.

            Last year they lost to Texas, Alabama, Texas A&M, Georgia, Vanderbilt and LSU. All six of those teams finished the year in the Top 25. The Texas, Alabama and Georgia losses were pretty bad. However, they lost to A&M 30-27, LSU 41-35 and Vandy 27-26. That's not the same Ole Miss team that we've seen on the field in previous years. Again, I'm not saying that they could win any other conferences or divisions or anything like that.... but it wouldn't surprise me if they finished third in the SEC West. :wink:

            As far as the question at hand, I would say that the SEC is still the best, but not my much. Last year, both divisions were pretty top heavy and that's what sets them apart from the other conferences. If you moved the average teams (Vandy, Ole Miss, Miss. State) in any other conferences last year and they would still be average. Maybe the would have another win or two, but they certainly wouldn't be contending for anything. The below average teams were all pretty bad - Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky in the East and Arkansas and Auburn in the West. Put them in another conference and they would have still been bottom feeders.
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            • Swamp Swagger
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              • Sep 2012
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              #156
              That's still leaves 6 teams that are darn good. UF, LSU, USCe, Bama, UGA, Texas A&M.

              I still say 7 in row by at least 4 different teams will never ever be sniffed by any other conference.

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              • bkrich83
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                #157
                Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                Originally posted by Swamp Swagger

                I still say 7 in row by at least 4 different teams will never ever be sniffed by any other conference.
                And what's your point? Especially given the BCS dubious ability to put teams in the title game?

                As we move to a playoff and the inevitable expansion of sed playoff this fact will become increasingly meaningless. As it stands now with the BCS, it's a championship in name only, since its being decided in the same fashion figure skating is.
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                • Swamp Swagger
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by bkrich83
                  And what's your point? Especially given the BCS dubious ability to put teams in the title game?

                  As we move to a playoff and the inevitable expansion of sed playoff this fact will become increasingly meaningless. As it stands now with the BCS, it's a championship in name only, since its being decided in the same fashion figure skating is.
                  Auburn says hi, but the point is no other conference would/never did anything close to what the SEC did in he BCS era.

                  Other conferences would be lucky if 2 different teams won it all in back to back years. Again 7 in row by 4 different teams is unreal the more I think about it.

                  But of course it's meaningless . What are we all but just dust in the wind
                  Last edited by Swamp Swagger; 08-05-2013, 03:57 PM.

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                  • bkrich83
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                    #159
                    Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                    Originally posted by Swamp Swagger
                    Auburn says hi, but the point is no other conference would/never did anything close to what the SEC did in he BCS era.

                    Other conferences would be lucky if 2 different teams won it all in back to back years. Again 7 in row by 4 different teams is unreal the more I think about it.

                    But of course it's meaningless . What are we all but just dust in the wind
                    You think Auburn is the only team to get screwed? You realize football is played outside the SEC? Yes?

                    Again that means what other than they've had good team or two at the top of the conference. What does it have to do with overall strength of conference? Other than the media bias and when you lose your game.

                    If you're using the BCS as your logic, I don't know what to tell you. There's a reason it's going away.

                    The whole conference pride thing is stupid to begin with. I know why it's so prevelant in SEC country but that's another discussion.
                    Last edited by bkrich83; 08-05-2013, 04:32 PM.
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                    • Swamp Swagger
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      You think Auburn is the only team to get screwed? You realize football is played outside the SEC? Yes?

                      Again that means what other than they've had good team or two at the top of the conference. What does it have to do with overall strength of conference? Other than the media bias and when you lose your game.

                      If you're using the BCS as your logic, I don't know what to tell you. There's a reason it's going away.

                      The whole conference pride thing is stupid to begin with. I know why it's so prevelant in SEC country but that's another discussion.
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                      • bkrich83
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                        #161
                        Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                        Originally posted by Swamp Swagger
                        You little sweet heart....
                        Excellent point.
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                        • Swamp Swagger
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                          #162
                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          Excellent point.
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                          • bkrich83
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                            #163
                            Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                            Originally posted by Swamp Swagger
                            Only for you my little munchkin
                            I was hoping for an answer or valid counterpoint to my post. Apparently you have none. Troll away.
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                            • Swamp Swagger
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                              #164
                              Originally posted by bkrich83
                              I was hoping for an answer or valid counterpoint to my post. Apparently you have none. Troll away.
                              You deflect any post and reply why every ones opinion is wrong. It would just be a endless cycle to even reply...

                              You already said you think winning the title games are meaningless. So what's there to argue if that's what you're opinion already is
                              Last edited by Swamp Swagger; 08-05-2013, 05:03 PM.

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                              • bkrich83
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                                #165
                                Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                                Originally posted by Swamp Swagger
                                You deflect any post and reply why every ones opinion is wrong. It would just be a endless cycle to even reply...
                                What did I deflect? I clearly asked for your logic, and apparently you had none to back up your argument, so you resorted to dumb comments. Actually that's the definition of deflection, especially when you can't back up your point.
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