NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

[CS10029]

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I think he has a case of the "low difficulties".

[Anti Honor]

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The whole point of AI is to get it as close to the intelligence of real players as possible. I think EA has gotten better every year.

They won't even allow us to do that. A lot of these issues I'm having could be solved with the sliders, which they put in the game. Unfortunately those sliders didn't seem to do anything whatsoever in the '08 games. I went as far as lowering all my sliders to ''0'' and the CPUs to MAX, and got the same results. I could understand if my nephew and I were experts, but we're actually not very good at all, which makes the CPU AI issue even more frustrating for us.

I disagree with the whole EA getting better thing.. You can hop over to the slider forum and see a ton of frustrated gamers, some who threw hissy fits, some actually called it quits for the year. Most of them spent their gaming time trying to find a way to make the CPU even somewhat intelligent, when they should have been enjoying the games.

Look, if EA can't make an intelligent AI, at least make the sliders even more important, so we can do it ourselves. I don't want to pay $120 to win the national championship with Hawaii and the Superbowl with Detroit each and every year. I want to have to build the teams up, and earn my victories. Seriously, play me online once, you'll see just how awful I am - then tell me if EA's AI is even close to being improved every year.

As for the ''play a human'' thing. I buy these games for the dynasty/franchise mode. I don't care to play online.

[Tully]

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I've played the demo on both systems. The 360 version appears to have better colors and lighting. And it appears its harder to play offense on the 360. But I'm impressed with both versions

[ODogg]

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What does QFT mean? Also, I hope your not making a crack at me. I was just making a point that it's impossible to have real human intelligence in a video game. And I think he was wanting the AI to be as intelligent as a human.

Quoted for Truth. I was agreeing.

[ODogg]

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They won't even allow us to do that. A lot of these issues I'm having could be solved with the sliders, which they put in the game. Unfortunately those sliders didn't seem to do anything whatsoever in the '08 games. I went as far as lowering all my sliders to ''0'' and the CPUs to MAX, and got the same results. I could understand if my nephew and I were experts, but we're actually not very good at all, which makes the CPU AI issue even more frustrating for us.

I disagree with the whole EA getting better thing.. You can hop over to the slider forum and see a ton of frustrated gamers, some who threw hissy fits, some actually called it quits for the year. Most of them spent their gaming time trying to find a way to make the CPU even somewhat intelligent, when they should have been enjoying the games.

Look, if EA can't make an intelligent AI, at least make the sliders even more important, so we can do it ourselves. I don't want to pay $120 to win the national championship with Hawaii and the Superbowl with Detroit each and every year. I want to have to build the teams up, and earn my victories. Seriously, play me online once, you'll see just how awful I am - then tell me if EA's AI is even close to being improved every year.

As for the ''play a human'' thing. I buy these games for the dynasty/franchise mode. I don't care to play online.

It sounds like you're just too good at the games. J/k...the AI is certainly lacking but you seriously must be good if no matter what you do then you can't get any challenge. It sounds like you will only get what you are asking for by playing in an online dynasty. Good thing they have that this year!

[kt-od]

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Quoted for Truth. I was agreeing.

Sorry ODogg. I didn't know the abbreviation. Thanks for making me more message board savy.

[carolo59]

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I have played a few demo games now for PS3. I will state that it is already better than 08. I don't think it's the best football game I've ever played, however, to also say that it's complete and utter GARBAGE, is a little over the top. I totally understand that everyone has their opinions of the game, but a 'garbage' statement is overkill. *Heavyhitter* I also agree with the community when they say it would be nice to see some reasoning behind your opinion.

1. IMO, i really don't care how good the crowd looks. It is minor to me. But I know it's important to alot of others in this community, so I'm glad that EA makes somewhat of an effort to make it look decent.

2. What I care about is gameplay, presentation, and atmosphere. I want to experience NCAA as if I was actually at the game. I would love to see all actual team entrances. i.e Clemson touching Howards rock and running down the hill. To see all the styles of facemasks and helmets.

But I think the point of putting out a new game every year is to improve from the previous year. I think EA is making a step in the right direction, and I feel confident that we will all be happy and get what we want in NCAA Football in the next few years.

Oh, one more thing. I don't think we can compare Next-gen with current gen. It's like comparing apples to oranges. The two systems are totally different.

Thanks.

Sorry for the long post.

Your right, were are the little things, like in mlb08, least they are different things that happen, that the gentlemen on OS say did you see that. My point is the little things that keep us gentlemen putting that disk back in.Yes gameplay is in important, CPU @ AI Intellgence is important TOO,but the little things are important Like home field adv. half reports from the Booth, which players are controling the game,@ end of game reports. Love to play, but the little things keep me putting that disk back in, thats why mlb08 is so great, thats why so many people give MLB 08 such high ratings. Just my thoughts. Hoppy60

[ODogg]

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Your right, were are the little things, like in mlb08, least they are different things that happen, that the gentlemen on OS say did you see that. My point is the little things that keep us gentlemen putting that disk back in.Yes gameplay is in important, CPU @ AI Intellgence is important TOO,but the little things are important Like home field adv. half reports from the Booth, which players are controling the game,@ end of game reports. Love to play, but the little things keep me putting that disk back in, thats why mlb08 is so great, thats why so many people give MLB 08 such high ratings. Just my thoughts. Hoppy60

You're right, it makes you feel like you're visiting a little world in videogame land as opposed to just playing software. The Show should be the standard for EA to work off of.

[Krebstar]

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Anyone else noticed this...the first game I played looked like it was a sunset, still some light out, etc. However, other games I've played it has been completely dark, black night sky. Yet when you start the game it says 6:00 PM each time. Anyone else noticed this?

[Anti Honor]

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It sounds like you're just too good at the games. J/k...the AI is certainly lacking but you seriously must be good if no matter what you do then you can't get any challenge. It sounds like you will only get what you are asking for by playing in an online dynasty. Good thing they have that this year!

I tried the online thing. I ended up playing some 13 year olds who scramble to the side every play. My final attempt at the online deal, was Madden '08 - The guy chose Seattle, and I was like ''Wow, finally, a guy who's going to actually play football.'' Turns out, I forgot Seattle has Seneca Wallace, so the guy brought him in, and yeah, scrambled to the side every play. Unless I can get in a dynasty with straight up players from here, I'm not interested in online.

My main concern about the CPU is the turnovers.. IF this issue is indeed fixed, which I have my doubts - I can probably find some way of getting the CPU to be competitive. I played four demo games, each game had 3 to 4 CPU interceptions, ending in 0 CPU points in every game. No, it's not the actual game, but can you understand my concern?

Oh, and for the guy who mentioned ''low difficulties.'' Please, if these games had ''super super ridiculously hard'' mode, I'd play it. Unfortunately, they don't.

[PVarck31]

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I tried the online thing. I ended up playing some 13 year olds who scramble to the side every play. My final attempt at the online deal, was Madden '08 - The guy chose Seattle, and I was like ''Wow, finally, a guy who's going to actually play football.'' Turns out, I forgot Seattle has Seneca Wallace, so the guy brought him in, and yeah, scrambled to the side every play. Unless I can get in a dynasty with straight up players from here, I'm not interested in online.

My main concern about the CPU is the turnovers.. IF this issue is indeed fixed, which I have my doubts - I can probably find some way of getting the CPU to be competitive. I played four demo games, each game had 3 to 4 CPU interceptions, ending in 0 CPU points in every game. No, it's not the actual game, but can you see my concern?

I agree 100% about the online thing. As far as turnovers go. I have seen a few that maybe shouldn't have happened. But as it was stated by one of the producers of the game, this build is from April. I think alot of things will be ironed out by release.

[Scott]

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Wow...just had a 105 yard INT return for a TD

[acarrero]

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I played it last night. Won 21-0 using LSU. It was 14-0 into the 4th when they intercepted me and marched down inside the 20 but threw their own Int, picked off at the 1 and returned for a Td (it was a pretty realistic man coverage int on a slant). My defense scored 2 of the 3 TDs. Overall I was very pleased. Observations:

1) The crowd is one area where they can improve. Crowd movement and look still not where it should be for a next gen game.

2) Presentation has improved significantly. No lag in selecting plays.

3) I liked the new implementations, including the "focus" on one area feature for defense, adds a new element to the strategy.

4) Didn't notice a significant difference in running game, passing game seemed a bit easier (then again this was in varsity mode).

5) CPU AI seemed improved - the CPU called a good game, moving the ball on offense despite 2 realistic turnovers (one coming on a hit and strip in the backfield after I focused on creating a turnover), and intercepting an ill-advised pass into coverage after they blitzed me.

6) didn't notice too many new animations, and didn't play around with juke stick, but graphics and colors were slightly sharper.

Overall, it was a great first experience with 09. Considering its graphics and amount of realism and animations, it's looking like the best football game I have ever played. By next year I expect improved crowds, ALL div1A stadiums, and even more polished gameplay.

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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Well the demo impressed me and could be the best football game ever till atleast madden 09

[Moostache]

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I tried the online thing. I ended up playing some 13 year olds who scramble to the side every play. My final attempt at the online deal, was Madden '08 - The guy chose Seattle, and I was like ''Wow, finally, a guy who's going to actually play football.'' Turns out, I forgot Seattle has Seneca Wallace, so the guy brought him in, and yeah, scrambled to the side every play. Unless I can get in a dynasty with straight up players from here, I'm not interested in online.

My main concern about the CPU is the turnovers.. IF this issue is indeed fixed, which I have my doubts - I can probably find some way of getting the CPU to be competitive. I played four demo games, each game had 3 to 4 CPU interceptions, ending in 0 CPU points in every game. No, it's not the actual game, but can you understand my concern?

Oh, and for the guy who mentioned ''low difficulties.'' Please, if these games had ''super super ridiculously hard'' mode, I'd play it. Unfortunately, they don't.

I can feel your online pain for sure....but that is why I play my "serious" games in online leagues like OS offers or MaddenWars or DaOne League and a few others...

Honestly though, that is not just a Madden or NCAA phenomenon though....its true for all games online. Online gaming is simultaneously the BEST thing I have experienced in console gaming in the last 15 years and the WORST thing as well. IF you find a quality league of players though, there really is no substitute for a good str8/sim-style football game...I think NHL is close and some FPS with a good team or clan, but to me, there is simply nothing better in gaming than matching wits with someone and intentionally NOT using money plays or gimmicks to secure a win...

CPU AI is generations away from what I think everyone would like to see (ie. the equivalent of 11 human opponents on the field at all times)...but I will settle for improvements that simply do not reward stupidity! What I mean by that is that your very valid complaint of the cheesers who put in a fast QB and scramble sideline to sideline every other play is actually REWARDED by the game. If those type things were viciously penalized - by injuries, INTs, incompletions, fumbles and in-game flags for illegal man down field and holding or illegal use of the hands, then you would not see it any more...problem is that those of us who would LOVE that are in about a 10-to-1 minority in EA's eyes...

The really sad thing though is that I have to admit EA is RIGHT...look at the number of complaints about the players being too slow now as a case in point. The game slows down players by giving them more weight and momentum to prevent some of the circus-style cutting ability of the past and many players mistake this for a "lack of control" or "sluggish gameplay". The more real you try to make the game reflect reality, the less 'fun' about 80-90% of the buying audience would have...cold hard math for us sim-style players or afficienados to deal with I guess...