NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

[hayvis]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

and explain to me why NCAA is held to a different standard than every other sports game on the market?

If you can't see that it's incredibly disappointing for a lot of NCAA football players that they can't use Teambuilder to replace generic FCS teams in the game with real FCS teams because they want a more realistic experience then I'm sorry for the fact that you were born without the ability to empathize. You got what you wanted. Try to feel a little for those that didn't.

[heavy_hitter]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

thats it, pull out the casual football gamer card.

If we didn't have hope or believe that the game was going to or will get better, and if seeking information to solidify that hope/belief is a bad thing, then why bother coming into the forum seeking pre-release information? Why bother discussing the game at all?

Because I love college Football and have played EA football since the first Madden in 1990. This game was a great love of mine and I wish it still was.

Embarrassingly, I logged more online hours under one name than any other person on NCAA 2004. Since that time it has steadily declined because of issues with the game being sub par to just down right piss poor.

The game just isn't as good as it should be because EA pours resources into stupid stuff. They should be working on the gameplay and add the stupid stuff to keep people interested after gameplay is fixed.

I want to be able to play this game and enjoy it. However, I am pissed that EA has taken away one of the joy's I have had in video games by making NCAA garbage.

[moylan1234]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

If you can't see that it's incredibly disappointing for a lot of NCAA football players that they can't use Teambuilder to replace generic FCS teams in the game with real FCS teams because they want a more realistic experience then I'm sorry for the fact that you were born without the ability to empathize. You got what you wanted. Try to feel a little for those that didn't.

done putting words in my mouth? when did I ever not show empathy? I'm simply wondering why is it everyone thinks NCAA should have the ability to add created teams when in every other sports game out there you have to swap?

Also I really don't get how the inability to swap out 4 measley teams that aren't in even involved in the actual dynasty ruins this entire feature. Are you seriously telling me there aren't 4 out of 120 FBS teams that you can live without in your dynasty?

[hayvis]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

done putting words in my mouth? when did I ever not show empathy? I'm simply wondering why is it everyone thinks NCAA should have the ability to add created teams when in every other sports game out there you have to swap?

Also I really don't get how the inability to swap out 4 measley teams that aren't in even involved in the actual dynasty ruins this entire feature. Are you seriously telling me there aren't 4 out of 120 FBS teams that you can live without in your dynasty?

Obviously you can't empathize. Why does the feature have to be in another game for you to feel sympathetic towards those that are disappointed? Someone could tell me that they were upset because WKU's stadium is not in the game. I would still feel sorry for them even though you can't find it in any other game on the market. You just seem to lack the ability to see the game from another person's perspective.

[moylan1234]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

Obviously you can't empathize. Why does the feature have to be in another game for you to feel sympathetic towards those that are disappointed? Someone could tell me that they were upset because WKU's stadium is not in the game. I would still feel sorry for them even though you can't find it in any other game on the market. You just seem to lack the ability to see the game from another person's perspective.

are we best friends? how is it that you know so much about me? I do feel bad for anyone that's dissapointed, but you know what? last year at this time nobody was feeling sorry for me while the devs spent all their time working on online dynasty a feature I have never and will never use. and that's a feature that unlike Teambuilder or Season Showdown actually did prevent them from making strides in other areas. I didn't scream about it at the time because I understood that it was a feature many gamers wanted.

Also i don't know it just seems ridiculous to expect something from NCAA football that doesn't exist anywhere else. and your stadium analogy doesn't work because you would expect any other game to have accurate stadiums. i'm specifically referring to the inability to add teams to any season/franchise mode in any other game.

i really don't get what you're arguing here? I'm only asking fair questions and you keep saying that I have no ability to look at the game from another point of view which just couldn't be further from the truth.

[hayvis]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

are we best friends? how is it that you know so much about me? I do feel bad for anyone that's dissapointed, but you know what? last year at this time nobody was feeling sorry for me while the devs spent all their time working on online dynasty a feature I have never and will never use. and that's a feature that unlike Teambuilder or Season Showdown actually did prevent them from making strides in other areas. I didn't scream about it at the time because I understood that it was a feature many gamers wanted.

I would have seen your point of view, and accepted your point. You don't seem to have the ability to do that. I know that because you haven't once in this entire thread accepted anybody elses point, not because I know you personally.

Also i don't know it just seems ridiculous to expect something from NCAA football that doesn't exist anywhere else. and your stadium analogy doesn't work because you would expect any other game to have accurate stadiums. i'm specifically referring to the inability to add teams to any season/franchise mode in any other game.

Why is it ridiculous. It wasn't so ridiculous that EA apologized and said they tried to do this and came across technical issues with it. This was Cdj, the community leader at NCAA Strategies response, as he had talked about it on community day with the designers :

You can't swap in a created team for the generic FCS teams in the game. There is some technical issue with it, I believe since they aren't in a 'conference' to be swapped out. I'm pretty confident this will be one of the first items they tackle in NCAA 11, they know people want the FCS generics out. For the time being, they did make the generic FCS vastly improved. Ratings-wise, they were absolutely horrible last year.

Seems like a very balanced respose to something that is a bit of a disappointment to all that would have wanted the feature.

i really don't get what you're arguing here? I'm only asking fair questions and you keep saying that I have no ability to look at the game from another point of view which just couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm arguing that you are being narrow minded in this thread and refusing to accept that others want things from the game that you don't.

[moylan1234]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

I would have seen your point of view, and accepted your point. You don't seem to have the ability to do that. I know that because you haven't once in this entire thread accepted anybody elses point, not because I know you personally.

The difference is I never looked for anyone to see my point. I accepted what it was and didn't whine about it on a message board and show me one post where I didn't accept someone else's point? All i've really done in this thread or any other is ask questions about peoples POV I don't know how you're able to read so much about me off of that

Why is it ridiculous. It wasn't so ridiculous that EA apologized and said they tried to do this and came across technical issues with it. This was Cdj, the community leader at NCAA Strategies response, as he had talked about it on community day with the designers :

Seems like a very balanced respose to something that is a bit of a disappointment to all that would have wanted the feature.

i was never talking about swapping them for the current FCS, i was talking about adding on to the 120 teams vs swapping within the 120. of course I'd want the ability to swap out those FCS teams. I'm just saying I really can't understand how that inability would ruin the entire feature for anyone and it's not that i can't see your point of view it's that I don't understand it and you or anyone else hasn't been able to explain that yet

I'm arguing that you are being narrow minded in this thread and refusing to accept that others want things from the game that you don't.

i don't see how it's narrow minded to ask questions of people when they posts their opinions. it's actually the exact opposite. I've already stated that i feel bad for anyone who's not getting what they want, but as someone who's been in the position for 3 years now of having something extremely important to them get left out of the game what you're accusing me of is just so crazy.

[hayvis]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

i was never talking about swapping them for the current FCS, i was talking about adding on to the 120 teams vs swapping within the 120. of course I'd want the ability to swap out those FCS teams. I'm just saying I really can't understand how that inability would ruin the entire feature for anyone and it's not that i can't see your point of view it's that I don't understand it and you or anyone else hasn't been able to explain that yet

I couldn't possibly spell it out any clearer. I want to play this game with all 120 FBS teams in their correct divisions, and to schedule a game with an FCS team that doesn't affect the outcome of the FBS. That is the way I play the game. I don't play Dynasty any other way and therefore I will not be using Teambuilder.

You have refused to accept my point for the duration of this thread. You've asked questions, but then refused to understand or accept completely legitimate answers. Not understanding another person's point of view is the definition of narrow minded, and that is why I'm accusing you of being such. I'm done. Argue all you want. For the understanding that you show others you may as well be talking to yourself anyway.

[blackscorpion11]

Re: IGN Pre-E3 Hands On

The people that write on sports games at IGN usually have no idea what they are talking about.

However, I just have a gut feeling that this guy is going to be right on.

Teambuilder= Who cares?

Flexbone= EA didn't fix the OL which is the entire basis for this schemed offense to work. That means this offense is still broken or they come up with a junk way for the defense to become messed up against it.

Road to Glory= Who Cares?

Adaptive AI= Nice. But I have a hard time believing that EA could develop and implement it correctly on the first try.

Just my opinion, but this game needs to be started over from scratch. They need to start the game over and begin with programming the OL/DL interaction properly. Until that is done, this game will continue to garbage.

Star over from scratch, i agree completely! Blow this game up and start over using the ncaa 2006 gameplay engine.

teambuilder is Huge because an entire section of fans of this series enjoy creating hometown schools from scratch and being able to do that in online dynasty is VERY BIG to us.

[moylan1234]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

I couldn't possibly spell it out any clearer. I want to play this game with all 120 FBS teams in their correct divisions, and to schedule a game with an FCS team that doesn't affect the outcome of the FBS. That is the way I play the game. I don't play Dynasty any other way and therefore I will not be using Teambuilder.

You have refused to accept my point for the duration of this thread. You've asked questions, but then refused to understand or accept completely legitimate answers. Not understanding another person's point of view is the definition of narrow minded, and that is why I'm accusing you of being such. I'm done. Argue all you want. For the understanding that you show others you may as well be talking to yourself anyway.

wow, always fun conversing with someone! not sure how many times I have to say i feel bad for people who didn't get what they want, but oh well since you're mature and all i guess it doesn't matter. This is the first post you made where you spent less time attacking me and more time explaining your point of view and now I actually do understand where you're coming from so thanks for that and I do see how it's a bummer, but like I said before it's just hard for me to understand how not being able swap out 4 made up teams for 4 real teams is that much of a dealbreaker, but oh well everyone's got their kicks i suppose. great chatting with ya!

[countryboy]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

Because I love college Football and have played EA football since the first Madden in 1990. This game was a great love of mine and I wish it still was.

Embarrassingly, I logged more online hours under one name than any other person on NCAA 2004. Since that time it has steadily declined because of issues with the game being sub par to just down right piss poor.

The game just isn't as good as it should be because EA pours resources into stupid stuff. They should be working on the gameplay and add the stupid stuff to keep people interested after gameplay is fixed.

I want to be able to play this game and enjoy it. However, I am pissed that EA has taken away one of the joy's I have had in video games by making NCAA garbage.

Ok, so you're upset that the game has, in your opinion, been garbage since '04, but you want the game to get better. Thats why we're here, because we want the game to get better or because we like the series. So why ridicule people that get excited when they read something that meets one of the things they've wanted fixed/in the game?

I mean, you seem ok with expressing your concern/cautious attitude towards what you read/hear/see because you've been disappointed in the past, so why can't people express their excitement/joy towards things they read/hear/see when its something they've wanted to see added/fixed and/or because they've been happy with series in the past?

[JerseySuave4]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

i was never talking about swapping them for the current FCS, i was talking about adding on to the 120 teams vs swapping within the 120.

care to explain how you can just add to the 120 teams without screwing up the schedule for every other team in the game? If you add 1 more team so theres 121 teams, you need to create a schedule for that extra team, therefore you will affect other team's schedules, which will affect other team's schedules and so on. You can't just add on extra teams without it screwing up the schedules.

Unless you have a way this can be done, there doesnt seem to be one. And dont give that, "its not my job its their job" crap because its easy to sit here and ask for everything in the world and just say its their job to figure it out and then complain that its not there.

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I really wish that instead of adding brand new things every year, they would just concentrate on the gameplay and correct some of the bugs that were in 09. So we don't need a patch right away like last year. Just a thought.

[Young J 334]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

care to explain how you can just add to the 120 teams without screwing up the schedule for every other team in the game? If you add 1 more team so theres 121 teams, you need to create a schedule for that extra team, therefore you will affect other team's schedules, which will affect other team's schedules and so on. You can't just add on extra teams without it screwing up the schedules.

Unless you have a way this can be done, there doesnt seem to be one. And dont give that, "its not my job its their job" crap because its easy to sit here and ask for everything in the world and just say its their job to figure it out and then complain that its not there.

If team-builder is anything like previous CAS, you will be forced to remove one of the 120 FBS teams to add your team to play anyway. You will take over their schedule and your rivals become your rivals. At least until you make new ones

[michigan21]

Re: NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

I really wish that instead of adding brand new things every year, they would just concentrate on the gameplay and correct some of the bugs that were in 09. So we don't need a patch right away like last year. Just a thought.

Thats also how I feel. This game has felt like its been in neutral for years now. I dont think anyone is hating on this years version because none of us has played it. I think most people just arent liking some the things that have come out. For example, there has been absolutely no info on the presentational aspect for this year. Also there has not been any info, if im not mistaken, on major bug fixes like the inability to sign OL. Most teams would end up having 7 qbs, 5 rb, 1ot, 1 og etc. It killed dynasty after 3 or 4 years. A true game killer. I just want more information of gameplay fixes, presentation, before I hear about new game modes like team builder .