The worst thing about this game, and a solution

**JAYMO76** · 08-18-2009, 02:14 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by HokiesCavs

Programming doesn't work like that. You can't simply slap on new and shiny graphics on the same gameplay engine. All of the code is interwoven and works together. When they had to upgrade the graphics for this generation of systems, they had to build a new gameplay engine that works with the new graphics.

Yes I am aware of that. You are interpretting my comments far too LITERALLY. What I mean is that I want to see the basics of what made 06 so great back in for 2011.

**HokiesCavs** · 08-18-2009, 09:08 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by JAYMO76

Yes I am aware of that. You are interpretting my comments far too LITERALLY. What I mean is that I want to see the basics of what made 06 so great back in for 2011.

Ah, my mistake. Being a programmer myself, I have a tendency to assume that people don't know what they are talking about when it comes to video games. I agree, then, that for NCAA 11 they should focus on the same things that made 06 great.

**JAYMO76** · 08-18-2009, 09:11 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by HokiesCavs

Ah, my mistake. Being a programmer myself, I have a tendency to assume that people don't know what they are talking about when it comes to video games. I agree, then, that for NCAA 11 they should focus on the same things that made 06 great.

Yeah my cousin (game designer in training) gave me a crash course on gaming a few years back. It sure would be nice if all features could be ported, but like you say, it doesn't work that way.

**bamaphant83** · 08-18-2009, 09:33 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by JAYMO76

I had formation subs, I had the screen shaking and the crowd going crazy, my players had skill and ability composure bublles and I could see the other teams as well AND there were great stat overlays (number of tackles, qb passing ratio to each side of the field, etc.). Man I love this game... it's too bad the graphics are so weak. P.S. the running backs don't turn on a dime... wow!

yeah i loved those stat overlays. NCAA is the only game i buy every year (TW every other year) and i miss those stats.. i actually forgot about the passing ratios to each side and deep/ near.

i think youve got something there as far as combining those basic features with the better graphics.... just need better gameplay now. and can we get some better commentary? im tired of *******... err Corso talking my HB's rushing yards... 100 of them!

**Strummer101er** · 08-19-2009, 06:36 AM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by White Out

Fire the entire dev team for NCAA, and bring in a small team to take the Madden code as its being built, and make it college.

That'll never happen. Madden is EA's #1 franchise -- if Madden and NCAA overlap too much, no one will buy Madden once they've been playing NCAA for a month.

That's why EA deliberately kneecaps NCAA. They want it to be good -- but not too good, because it's just the warmup game.

So NCAA fans will always be left with the table scraps. NCAA 11 will play like Madden 10, NCAA 12 will play like Madden 11, and on and on and on ...

**stlstudios189** · 08-19-2009, 08:53 AM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

It use to be the better game!!! 04-06 was an amazing period for the series. I still play and enjoy them but, man just give us the little things we love and miss.

**Buckstopshere** · 08-19-2009, 10:55 AM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by stlstudios189

It use to be the better game!!! 04-06 was an amazing period for the series. I still play and enjoy them but, man just give us the little things we love and miss.

Oh yeah. My disinterst in Madden didn't start with 07 although that really pretty much killed it off for me outright until 2010 this year.

06 was the year when NCAA was insanely better than Madden IMO at least. 04-06 was the Golden Age for NCAA Football IMO.

**bpd115** · 08-19-2009, 02:11 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

'06 was awesome, no doubt.

But the problem was the Deep ball. With PSU, send then FR Derrick Williams on a fly route. Touchdown Penn State...

All. Game. Long.

**JAYMO76** · 08-19-2009, 02:26 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by bamaphant83

yeah i loved those stat overlays. NCAA is the only game i buy every year (TW every other year) and i miss those stats.. i actually forgot about the passing ratios to each side and deep/ near.

i think youve got something there as far as combining those basic features with the better graphics.... just need better gameplay now. and can we get some better commentary? im tired of *******... err Corso talking my HB's rushing yards... 100 of them!

Yup the stat overlays on the ps2 were the best stat overlays I have ever seen. They are so weak and random on next gen versions.

**xXBlackshirtsXx** · 08-19-2009, 02:47 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

does anyone know if it actually is a different dev team than the 04-06 dev team?? id just be curious as to why it is a different team if it really in fact is, because they did a great job. seriously ea, transport the 06 game into next gen graphics and bam ud be at the top of your game again. how hard is it to give me good stat graphics during the game??? ive forgotten what good ncaa football is actually like this thread refreshed my 06 memory

**MrOctober430** · 08-19-2009, 03:06 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

If my NCAA06 didn't look like **** on my HD TV, I would even bother with NCAA10. I'd update my 06 rosters and play with that. NCAA06 was epic compared to 08, 09, & 10.

**clevmire1** · 08-19-2009, 09:33 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by Strummer101er

That'll never happen. Madden is EA's #1 franchise -- if Madden and NCAA overlap too much, no one will buy Madden once they've been playing NCAA for a month.

That's why EA deliberately kneecaps NCAA. They want it to be good -- but not too good, because it's just the warmup game.

So NCAA fans will always be left with the table scraps. NCAA 11 will play like Madden 10, NCAA 12 will play like Madden 11, and on and on and on ...

thats obvious, but EA don't need to make NCAA better than Madden. All they need to do is fix the progression and give us back the little things i.e. THE ATMOSPHERE.

**JAYMO76** · 08-19-2009, 09:44 PM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by MrOctober430

If my NCAA06 didn't look like **** on my HD TV, I would even bother with NCAA10. I'd update my 06 rosters and play with that. NCAA06 was epic compared to 08, 09, & 10.

you get a plus 10,000 for this post!!!

**CYST2000** · 08-20-2009, 02:36 AM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

With EA it's like 2 steps forward and 1 step back. And if you think about it it's really helped there sales. For instance. If you make a game with a good amount of bells and whistles but keep it from being perfect you have a decent game that we all will buy because we love our football. Then next year you take what worked for the game out and put the thing(s) you were missing in, and thus everybody is hyped and not knowing your still getting a broke product. So like any good gamer you suggest too everyone you meet that this is going to be the best one yet and they go out and buy it. When you give it some time,and you start to see the flaws and tell EA that the next year needs to have all the stuff you had in the last game back in it. EA says oh, ok! Then proceed to apply our demands for the next year while stripping away what was working the year before again. So we the mass consumers pass on to our freinds how this is the year it all comes together, and well as always it won't because we all help add the hype they need for great sales. When every year they need hype to sale they couldn't actually make the game perfect then every year would be harder to get people excited. And sales would hit a plateau>:^(

**stevedrumsdw** · 08-20-2009, 03:52 AM

Re: The worst thing about this game, and a solution

Originally posted by CYST2000

With EA it's like 2 steps forward and 1 step back. And if you think about it it's really helped there sales. For instance. If you make a game with a good amount of bells and whistles but keep it from being perfect you have a decent game that we all will buy because we love our football. Then next year you take what worked for the game out and put the thing(s) you were missing in, and thus everybody is hyped and not knowing your still getting a broke product. So like any good gamer you suggest too everyone you meet that this is going to be the best one yet and they go out and buy it. When you give it some time,and you start to see the flaws and tell EA that the next year needs to have all the stuff you had in the last game back in it. EA says oh, ok! Then proceed to apply our demands for the next year while stripping away what was working the year before again. So we the mass consumers pass on to our freinds how this is the year it all comes together, and well as always it won't because we all help add the hype they need for great sales. When every year they need hype to sale they couldn't actually make the game perfect then every year would be harder to get people excited. And sales would hit a plateau>:^(

Thats right, EA gives us one or two little features each year so they can make people like me want to buy the game for hope they might add formation subs one day. We all know they could add many features in one year if they wanted, why would they though? If they can sell the same mostly featureless update each year. The old path of least resistence showing its innate human nature in the world of video games what a concept.

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