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  • JerseySuave4
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 5152

    #61
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

    Originally posted by jfsolo
    I agree with this 100%, but then again my sense of immersion is not tied to the mimicry of what we see in actual television broadcasts.

    I wonder if all folks who are so insistent on actual ESPN camera shots and/or angles desire to play the game in broadcast angle only? It would seem as if they would, as the default gameplay camera would seem to me to be the most immersion destroying angle of all.

    Now having to play in broadcast view would literally be a gamekiller for me, but otherwise it wouldn't bother me if people were actually able convince EA to use only "real life" camera angles. I'm just so surprised by the furor, this board is the only place I've ever seen so many people so adamant about this aspect of presentation. Actually wanting EA to do less than their "best" in this particular instance.(best of course, being a matter of perspective)


    cant say it much better than that

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    • SageInfinite
      Stop The GOAT Talk
      • Jul 2002
      • 11896

      #62
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

      Originally posted by jfsolo
      I agree with this 100%, but then again my sense of immersion is not tied to the mimicry of what we see in actual television broadcasts.

      I wonder if all folks who are so insistent on actual ESPN camera shots and/or angles desire to play the game in broadcast angle only? It would seem as if they would, as the default gameplay camera would seem to me to be the most immersion destroying angle of all.

      Now having to play in broadcast view would literally be a gamekiller for me, but otherwise it wouldn't bother me if people were actually able convince EA to use only "real life" camera angles. I'm just so surprised by the furor, this board is the only place I've ever seen so many people so adamant about this aspect of presentation. Actually wanting EA to do less than their "best" in this particular instance.(best of course, being a matter of perspective)
      For me its about blurring the line of what I watch on tv and what I play. These "beyond broadcast" angles EA is doing have been done before in the PS1 era of gaming. It's not like it's something new. Then when Madden 2001 and NFL 2k1 came and started using cameras closer to the ones used on tv everyone marveled at how great the games looked because you could mistake them for actual games. IMO it's just the better way to go.

      Either way with EA/Tiburon why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't they use both? IMO that would be the best way to do beyond broadcast. Have cutscenes and Pre-Post play cuts with authentic angles and mix the replays with beyond broadcast cameras. They could even give the camera angle a cool name since that seems to be EA/Tiburons thing.

      As far as gameplay angles, It's not my thing to have broadcast angles on a football game, but I think they should have it for CPU VS CPU games.
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      • drowsike
        GO DAWGS
        • Jul 2008
        • 186

        #63
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

        ^this

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        • 123abcdylan
          Pro
          • Mar 2010
          • 622

          #64
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

          Is dynasty blog 3 of 3 coming today?

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          • Lava
            Pro
            • Mar 2009
            • 966

            #65
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

            Originally posted by 123abcdylan
            Is dynasty blog 3 of 3 coming today?
            Doubtful. They haven't released a blog on a weekend yet.
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            • Gusto1
              Rookie
              • May 2008
              • 29

              #66
              I wonder if anymore of the features from the survey make there way into the game. NCAA 11 is already bringing the heat if they add the AD mode I will strip and run down my street.

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              • jmik58
                Staff Writer
                • Jan 2008
                • 2401

                #67
                1. The first thing I noticed was the horrible throwing animation as well. Let's hope it's a previous build.

                2. I thought I was the only one who didn't understand the "fake" replay angles. For a realistic game, use realistic broadcast replays. Make it feel like I'm watching a real game on t.v.

                3. I'm not jumping to conclusions on the fears of an offensive powered game predicated on unstoppable rushing attacks. They are showing singular plays from random games and they aren't breaking it for TD's. I'm sure that player attributes determine how easily someone can be blocked or achieve a block. Also, the defensive alignment and assignment has a HUGE deal of importance on the success of a running play. Therefore, the read option isn't any more dangerous that other plays if you know how to defend it.

                There is no "perfect" play or offense/defense in football. If there was, everyone would be using it. And seeing as how there are "120 Ways to Win", that obviously is not the case.

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                • stylee
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 317

                  #68
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

                  Looked very very good, imo.

                  I had some confusion on some of the option stuff.

                  In the Air Force play, the slotback really took a wide arc path to the safety.
                  In one of the Georgia Tech plays, however, the slot ran straight ahead, right into the end who was supposed to be unblocked. I'm not sure of what the scheme was, but I hope most option plays look more like the former than the latter.

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                  • predator828
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 128

                    #69
                    Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

                    Im going to be really negative in this post. FYI.

                    Okay, my heart dropped after watching this preview. it looks like... well, a whole bunch of BS and the only thing that really changed from last year are ESPN animations and blocking assignments.

                    first off, my biggest complaint, 120 ways to win, the way they present it, sounds like complete bull****. they make it sound like the spread option/spread/run & shoot wasnt in the game last year. it was. every formation they talk about was. the only thing that changed was that blocking assignments were added. and adding a name to it like "120 ways to win" is supposed to make it sound like a brand new feature or something.

                    Locomotion, again, from the way they present it, looks like some new animations of people falling down. in that video, pryor does a now momentum WHIP AROUND spin move that makes no sense, physically, and we get the same "whoops, i missed" animation from the defender. all the rest looks like clips from last years game.

                    the rest is all just fluff.

                    im not looking forward to this game nearly as much as i was before this video. thanks, EA team.

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                    • stylee
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 317

                      #70
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

                      The addition of blocking assignments means the game moves from being just something that vaguely looks like a football game to an emulation of what actually occurs on the field. That's pretty darn big.

                      Spread/option/etc was in the game last year in appearance only. There was no "option" in the triple option, no "read" in the zone read. I'd say blocking assignments are a huge step.

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                      • yungmizzou
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 165

                        #71
                        These guys seem to have a lot more "football sense" than the Madden developers or Ian. Really don't know what it is, but they seem to know a lot more of the sport, and are a lot more excited. Good vid, excited for the game.

                        running animations still look robotic but not as bad, and wtf was that throwing motion?

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                        • BLACKjersey53
                          Rookie
                          • May 2009
                          • 190

                          #72
                          Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

                          nice little video of Russ and Ben. Oh, and the FEW clips of the game were good too (other than the throwing motion on the first pass)

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                          • Watson
                            Burrow Club
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27013

                            #73
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

                            Originally posted by stylee
                            Looked very very good, imo.

                            I had some confusion on some of the option stuff.

                            In the Air Force play, the slotback really took a wide arc path to the safety.
                            In one of the Georgia Tech plays, however, the slot ran straight ahead, right into the end who was supposed to be unblocked. I'm not sure of what the scheme was, but I hope most option plays look more like the former than the latter.
                            Well, Air Force and Georgia Tech have different option styles. Tech plays are more meticulous, while Air Force plays are more or less touch and go. There's no need to worry about this.
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                            • MrOctober430
                              MVP
                              • May 2005
                              • 1694

                              #74
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

                              these guys sound like they don't know anything about football.

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                              • bo4345
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 115

                                #75
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Features of the Game

                                Was Ben Haumiller in BeerFest? He looks like Landfill.

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