NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

[tswiatkowski]

Ok, what I would like to see fixed is the recruit ratings and progression. It gets pretty bad after all the players are made up recruits (5th year in) and teams that are powerhouses are all Bs. I mean, I am not so opposed to spread out ratings but the thing is, when they are not consistent with the original roster ratings, it does get very annoying.

[Ramminyou]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

Ok, what I would like to see fixed is the recruit ratings and progression. It gets pretty bad after all the players are made up recruits (5th year in) and teams that are powerhouses are all Bs. I mean, I am not so opposed to spread out ratings but the thing is, when they are not consistent with the original roster ratings, it does get very annoying.

I can't tell from your post if you know, but the blog specifically states they are looking into fixing the recruiting and progession issues.

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Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

I don't think EA needs to tweak progression too much. What they need to do from what I am seeing is the following:

1. Improve awareness increases in all positions. Freshman come in to low and don't improve enough
2. Improve juke and elusiveness ratings in new wide receiver recruits.
3. Improve Kickers kick power and kick accuracy. This should be high as freshman and increase marginally over 4 years. This is needed for gameplay as most teams only carry 1 of each kicker. .
4. Improve quality of 1* and 2* and 3* star players. Too much of a gap between crappy players and good players. I liked stretched ratings, but too much will kill gameplay on the field.

And anther thing, improvements to CPU recruiting is necessary. 10 qbs on one team is not going to cut it.

Solid post. That is exactly what they need to do. Here's hoping...

[mgoblue678]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

I don't think EA needs to tweak progression too much. What they need to do from what I am seeing is the following:

1. Improve awareness increases in all positions. Freshman come in to low and don't improve enough
2. Improve juke and elusiveness ratings in new wide receiver recruits.
3. Improve Kickers kick power and kick accuracy. This should be high as freshman and increase marginally over 4 years. This is needed for gameplay as most teams only carry 1 of each kicker. .
4. Improve quality of 1* and 2* and 3* star players. Too much of a gap between crappy players and good players. I liked stretched ratings, but too much will kill gameplay on the field.

And anther thing, improvements to CPU recruiting is necessary. 10 qbs on one team is not going to cut it.

Agree with this completely. These are defiantly the issues more so than progression. I would be really disappointed if they ignored these things and instead messed with progression significantly.

The only thing I would add is to either decrease the amount of 1* players or have CPU teams not recruit those guys for the most part. Even the worst teams in the country generally don't sign those guys.

[T3B0W]

Re: EA speaks again! (Patch #2 blog)

GREAT news. Well done EA.

[lionsheart]

What about fixing the punt returns. There is no blocking on returns.

[jfsolo]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

Agree with this completely. These are defiantly the issues more so than progression. I would be really disappointed if they ignored these things and instead messed with progression significantly.

The only thing I would add is to either decreases the amount of 1* players or have CPU teams not recruit those guys for the most part. Even the worst teams in the country generally don't sign those guys.

They probably won't be able to do this until next year, but all of the 1* players should be removed from the game and replaced with more 2* star players. The only 1* players should be the walk on's.

For this year I think they should adjust it to be like this for incoming Frosh:

1* 55-65 OVR

2* 60-70 OVR

3* 65-75 OVR

4* 70-80 OVR

5* 75-85 OVR

The progression should essentially stay as is, but 1% of every star category in every class should be breakout players, Players who get like a 8 point bump after their Frosh and Soph years regardless of their team prestige. This way the small schools can have an occasional unexpected star player like they do now.

[gilljon26]

any broadcast cam

[gilljon26]

any broadcast cam maybe ill buy it if it were in

[Balrog]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

any broadcast cam maybe ill buy it if it were in

They said that they couldn't put it in this year

[UniversityofArizona]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

will i be able to use this tuner set myself to my own desires on my offline dynasty game or do i have to hope ea does everything i want done for me?

[LambertandHam]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

will i be able to use this tuner set myself to my own desires on my offline dynasty game or do i have to hope ea does everything i want done for me?

This sounds like it's something EA can only mess with under the hood, so I guess cross your fingers and pray

[SwiftyK]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

Why are people thanking EA for selling you a broken game at release? This pathetic gesture is the reason why EA can keep doing this. Everyone gets understandably angry and the second a patch is released they act like EA is doing them a favor. Did you read that EA update? He was beating around the bush saying why the games are never fixed by release date, he didn't give any actual answers besides "it's hard to program games." I have friends that are testers that could've caught those bugs. With all that said my main point is EA put this game tuning feature in without even making it public (how often does that happen?) They sell you a broken game, then act like they have come to save the day with a feature that they didn't even feature!

[Kentucky3D]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

Why are people thanking EA for selling you a broken game at release? This pathetic gesture is the reason why EA can keep doing this. Everyone gets understandably angry and the second a patch is released they act like EA is doing them a favor. Did you read that EA update? He was beating around the bush saying why the games are never fixed by release date, he didn't give any actual answers besides "it's hard to program games." I have friends that are testers that could've caught those bugs. With all that said my main point is EA put this game tuning feature in without even making it public (how often does that happen?) They sell you a broken game, then act like they have come to save the day with a feature that they didn't even feature!

So in the "tens-of-thousands of hours of QA" they couldn't advance dynasty mode through 15 years and study the results? It should jump out right away that something is wrong when they see I-AA West blowing out Marshall. I think that would only take an hour to figure out.

[mcpheje]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

So in the "tens-of-thousands of hours of QA" they couldn't advance dynasty mode through 15 years and study the results? It should jump out right away that something is wrong when they see I-AA West blowing out Marshall. I think that would only take an hour to figure out.

True, especially when you consider that they should be able to pull the data out and do simple comparisons from year to year. In year 15, the individual ratings for the freshman should still look like the freshman from year 1; the sophmores should still look like the sophmores from year 1, etc. If they tune the game to play correctly with the default rosters, then all they need to do is make sure that progression keeps the rosters as a whole looking pretty much the same. The calculations behind the scenes may be a little complex, but the concept is actually very simple.