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  • jeremym480
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    • Oct 2008
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    #376
    Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

    So a monthly subscription fee is A-OK but, a one time $6.99 charge is not. I understand completely.
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    • The GIGGAS
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      • Mar 2003
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      #377
      Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

      Originally posted by jeremym480
      Whining about anything on a message board seems dumb to me... If I'm not happy about a product I'll hit them where it hurts... with my wallet.
      You must have a really thick wallet.
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      • kingkilla56
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        • Jun 2009
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        #378
        Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

        So I actually read the entire IGN link...they are charging for Bungie.net COD style? Genius!
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        • kbmnm247
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          • Nov 2003
          • 456

          #379
          Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

          Originally posted by bkrich83
          So it's ok when Activision does it? I rest my case.
          No it's not. I am unhappy with it but it's a totally different genre that has competition so I have no need to buy that game every year. Anyway, I thought that I had implied that by me saying to read the comments on the article and see that the majority are unhappy with it? I forgot I have to clarify things a little more in this thread.

          I don't think it is okay at all, but the comparison is not the same as that fee is pretty much prepaying for map packs. It's another comparison/analogy that is not comparable to this special circumstance EA has. Once again, there are plenty other different FPS war games I can buy every year, there is only one (each) NFL and NCAA game each year.

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          • kbmnm247
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            • Nov 2003
            • 456

            #380
            Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

            Originally posted by jeremym480
            So a monthly subscription fee is A-OK but, a one time $6.99 charge is not. I understand completely.
            Monthly sub fee? Can you guys even read? The activision was a one time fee of about $15 from what I understood and it's not even definitely being charged! And it would give future map packs (which cost $15 each) for free to you as part of the subscription.

            It's not even the same as EA anyway but just drop that. And NO ITS NOT OKAY ACTIVISION is doing that but this isn't an Activision FPS gaming forum, it's NCAA.

            I love how the only defense for what EA is doing here is
            'well, other companies do it'
            'it's only $3'

            Sometimes when everyone is doing something, it isn't necessarily the right thing to do, ya know?

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            • bkrich83
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              • Jul 2002
              • 71572

              #381
              Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

              Originally posted by kbmnm247
              Monthly sub fee? Can you guys even read? The activision was a one time fee of about $15 from what I understood and it's not even definitely being charged! And it would give future map packs (which cost $15 each) for free to you as part of the subscription.

              It's not even the same as EA anyway but just drop that. And NO ITS NOT OKAY ACTIVISION is doing that but this isn't an Activision FPS gaming forum, it's NCAA.

              I love how the only defense for what EA is doing here is
              'well, other companies do it'
              'it's only $3'

              Sometimes when everyone is doing something, it isn't necessarily the right thing to do, ya know?
              Can you read? That article quite clearly says it's a subscription service.
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              • roadman
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #382
                Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                Originally posted by kbmnm247
                Monthly sub fee? Can you guys even read? The activision was a one time fee of about $15 from what I understood and it's not even definitely being charged! And it would give future map packs (which cost $15 each) for free to you as part of the subscription.

                It's not even the same as EA anyway but just drop that. And NO ITS NOT OKAY ACTIVISION is doing that but this isn't an Activision FPS gaming forum, it's NCAA.

                I love how the only defense for what EA is doing here is
                'well, other companies do it'
                'it's only $3'

                Sometimes when everyone is doing something, it isn't necessarily the right thing to do, ya know?
                And sometimes, your opinion is not the only opinion that is right, ya know? You can liberally throw competition into the mix, but others can't bring up other companies into the mix?

                Seems one-sided to me.

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                • kbmnm247
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                  • Nov 2003
                  • 456

                  #383
                  Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                  Originally posted by roadman
                  And sometimes, your opinion is not the only opinion that is right, ya know? You can liberally throw competition into the mix, but others can't bring up other companies into the mix?

                  Seems one-sided to me.
                  You guys have to be trolling. Once again, I'll state.... WHAT OTHER COMPANY CAN I BUY AN NCAA OR NFL FOOTBALL GAME FROM ON MY XBOX 360 OR PS3?

                  You are comparing another company, in a different genre, with a totally different DLC than what EA Sports is offering.

                  How is that one sided at all?

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                  • kbmnm247
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                    • Nov 2003
                    • 456

                    #384
                    Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    Can you read? That article quite clearly says it's a subscription service.
                    Did you even read my whole post? You would realize I mentioned the fee of $15 in my second sentence.

                    However, actually the only part of the article that even mentions subscription is...

                    So, you're probably wondering if Elite is free or if it will come with that rumored subscription fee. Activision says there will be some free features, but for the complete Elite experience you'll need to have a premium membership. How much will it cost? Activision isn't saying but claims it will be "less than any comparable online entertainment service." Included in your subscription will be all future downloadable map packs. Non-subscribers will have to pay the $15 or whatever the packs cost, but subscribers get them at no extra charge.
                    So, it doesn't "quite clearly say there will be a subscription fee" because they don't even know if they will charge for this. Also, it doesn't say anything about it being a monthly charge (which was what my response was to) and alludes to the fact it will be a one time fee (maybe annual fee, no where would monthly come into my mind). This fee also covers map packs which are $15 each, so if the sub fee is $15 one time or for a year, that would mean you would effectively be paying $7.50 each rather than $15 each and you'd get these other services. So it would be cheaper to prepay than it would be to just pay for the map packs. That's just pointing out the fact you'd be saving money if you did it this way rather than buying each pack separately.

                    That being said, it has nothing to do with what we are discussing and yes I am against Activision DLC as well, but not as much as I am against EA because I could just buy battlefield if I wanted to instead of the COD franchise to get my war game FPS fix. To get my NCAA and NFL fix I have EA and .... who exactly?
                    Last edited by kbmnm247; 05-31-2011, 12:25 PM.

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                    • roadman
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                      • Aug 2003
                      • 26339

                      #385
                      Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                      Originally posted by kbmnm247
                      You guys have to be trolling. Once again, I'll state.... WHAT OTHER COMPANY CAN I BUY AN NCAA OR NFL FOOTBALL GAME FROM ON MY XBOX 360 OR PS3?

                      You are comparing another company, in a different genre, with a totally different DLC than what EA Sports is offering.

                      How is that one sided at all?
                      APF 2k8. That was an NFL game. NCAA license is up this year. After that, any company can make a game.

                      By the way, the mods are qualified enough to determine who is trolling or not.

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                      • NDAlum
                        ND
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11453

                        #386
                        Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                        Originally posted by poopoop
                        I know how to ignore someone.

                        It is what it is though.

                        Someone posts something you disagree with they: have an agenda, are complaining to complain, etc.
                        Someone posts a source you disagree with: it isn't credible, doesn't count.
                        Someone points this out they: have hurt feelings, a persecution complex, or are being defensive.

                        It seems like it's standard operating procedure for you though. You won't own up to it and you'll continue to do it. Oh well, whatever. Moving on.
                        If you made a valid point I would acknowledge that. So far you have offered nothing but a personal opinion which I do not agree with.
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                        • kbmnm247
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                          • Nov 2003
                          • 456

                          #387
                          Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                          Originally posted by roadman
                          APF 2k8. That was an NFL game. NCAA license is up this year. After that, any company can make a game.

                          By the way, the mods are qualified enough to determine who is trolling or not.
                          lol man I'll give it to you. You had me going this whole time.

                          APF2k8 is my only other option and, despite what you say, it is not an NFL game. Can I play as my hometown Philadelphia Eagles in it? It's also, you know, 3 years old.

                          So I guess the answer to my question is: No, I can not buy another NFL or NCAA game because EA Sports makes the only one available. And why is that? Because they bought the exclusive license. Case closed.

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                          • kbmnm247
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                            • Nov 2003
                            • 456

                            #388
                            Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                            Originally posted by NDAlum
                            If you made a valid point I would acknowledge that. So far you have offered nothing but a personal opinion which I do not agree with.
                            No offense, but how is the guy that posts links to sources, comes with a coherent, fact based debate and answers opposition with logical, intelligent responses rather than name calling, the "personal opinion guy" whereas the guy who is posting personal opinions the one making valid points? I swear this thread is giving me brain trauma.

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                            • NDAlum
                              ND
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 11453

                              #389
                              Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                              I think we disagree with your argument about the features being 100% necessary for the functionality of the game.

                              If you want to be upset about them marketing the features as "already in the game" I can understand that. I can't understand the argument where you state the features are 100% necessary for the functionality of the game.

                              The new features are a luxury within the game
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                              • roadman
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                                • Aug 2003
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                                #390
                                Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                                Originally posted by kbmnm247
                                lol man I'll give it to you. You had me going this whole time.

                                APF2k8 is my only other option and, despite what you say, it is not an NFL game. Can I play as my hometown Philadelphia Eagles in it? It's also, you know, 3 years old.

                                So I guess the answer to my question is: No, I can not buy another NFL or NCAA game because EA Sports makes the only one available. And why is that? Because they bought the exclusive license. Case closed.
                                It's a subjective opinion one way or the other. There are NFL players in it, right?

                                To you case closed, I wouldn't expect anything else because you tried to closed off every opinion that someone countered with.

                                I'm perfectly fine with your opinions, I just don't personally agree with them.
                                Last edited by roadman; 05-31-2011, 01:37 PM.

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