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  • SECElit3
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 5553

    #61
    Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

    Originally posted by ViLLiO
    What? I never get beat deep. My record online is like 30-10, and those ten losses weren't because people were beating me deep. That is NOT an issue.
    Good gracious man, If you think the deep ball coverage is ok in this game, you just lost a lot of credibility with me, because you either don't have enough knowledge of how the pass coverage is supposed to be or you have blinders on.

    Why don't you observe a CPU vs CPU game and just watch the computer throw deep completions on itself over and over again. This is not human error. This is the computer exploiting its own coverage issues. I recently watched a game where ND put up 70 on Boston College because of this exploitation. The issue is safety awareness. They do not react to a receiver in their zone until the ball is thrown. By that time the receiver is past them and the safety is playing catch up.

    The pass coverage is horrible against the deep balls in this game. If this one issue is not or can't be patched, NCAA 12 is down the drain this year.

    This is a fundamental that cannot be overlooked.

    Please say you were kidding or something. "pass coverage fine?" Really?
    Last edited by SECElit3; 07-25-2011, 04:58 PM.

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    • Kaiser Wilhelm
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 2790

      #62
      Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

      One issue I have noticed is the passing game is SUPER PASSIVE!

      I mean, every single animation is passive. There are no aggressive catches. This leads to a lot of interceptions. The AI defender will go for the jump ball, or the over the shoulder catch, while the reciever will keep running and try a waist high, or sometimes shin high catch when they should be trying to make an aggressive catch.

      Every time I throw to the endzone, or deep sideline to my elite recievers, I can just picture my reciver turing on one foot, jumping up and having the ball hit him in the waist. While in this game, he just keeps running, the defender stops, and it ends up an easy interception.

      Another example I have, is on Post routes, particuarly on PA. The CB or Safety in the deep zone will come up to make a play and despite the angle I am running at, once i try to start the catch animation it changes the angle I'm running at to let the DB to make the pick.
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      • wolverinemaniac
        Rookie
        • Mar 2011
        • 411

        #63
        Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

        at first I supported this thread, but after playing 3+ dynasties and finding all the problems with pass cvg and the roster bug....def need a patch sorry pal

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        • JoBo513
          Rookie
          • Aug 2009
          • 370

          #64
          Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

          The pass coverage issues in online user games vs. The coverage in offline games is night and day. There are some AI issues in cpu games but user v. user games are better than ever.
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          • ViLLiO
            Banned
            • Feb 2011
            • 703

            #65
            Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

            Originally posted by JoBo513
            The pass coverage issues in online user games vs. The coverage in offline games is night and day. There are some AI issues in cpu games but user v. user games are better than ever.
            maybe that's why...

            I hardly ever play against the CPU. This is by far the best online experience I've ever had in a football game, though. Nothing else even compares.

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            • Sven Draconian
              Rookie
              • Jul 2006
              • 388

              #66
              Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

              I haven't seen any real issues with deep ball. If you are having trouble with the CPU deep ball, I would suggest dropping CPU Throw accuracy.

              I'm also in the concerned group if they patch gameplay.

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              • Kaiser Wilhelm
                MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 2790

                #67
                Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

                it is definatly a user vs user, user vs CPU issue.

                Its all a matter of who EA cares about more, online guys (generally the casual crowd) or the offline (generally sim) guys. I'm also curious how much of it is the named roster glitch.

                For the most part I am satisfied with gameplay and think a patch addressing these gameplay issues would be asking for poison. I think we just need stay loud on this forum all year round about these issues.

                I fear a gameplay patch will break the game, but we do need a patch to fix the stability issues, fix the roster glitch, fix the Custom Playbook glitch, tweak Coach Progression, tweak Player Progression(can live w/o this), Replay Glitches (sliding in Replay mode) and other well know and hopefully lesser known glitches.

                All the other issues we have addressed in this thread, that are gameplay related, should be kept loud and be heard, but not for a patch, but next year's game. Biggest one on my list, a small delay between button press and AI reaction, thus giving the illusion of realism. That and getting the virtual cleats back on our virtual athletes.
                Thanks to LBzrules: So these threads won't be forever lost.
                Tiered Play Calling
                Outs and Curls (Bracketing Receivers)
                If anybody is interested in a "spiritual successor to the socom franchise, check out this thread.

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                • sooner1
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1097

                  #68
                  Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

                  Originally posted by JoBo513
                  The pass coverage issues in online user games vs. The coverage in offline games is night and day. There are some AI issues in cpu games but user v. user games are better than ever.
                  I totally agree!! User vs User this game is the best I've played by far!!! Please EA don't mess it up.

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                  • sooner1
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 1097

                    #69
                    Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

                    Offline guys just use sliders! lol just kidding wish it was that easy.

                    There is nothing wrong with the pass coverage online deep.
                    Last edited by sooner1; 07-25-2011, 07:25 PM.

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                    • BaylorBearBryant
                      Sic 'em Bears!
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1536

                      #70
                      Other than the deep ball, I actually agree. I just want all the other buggy non-gameplay issues fixed.




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                      • blklightning
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1294

                        #71
                        Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

                        i disagree with everything the op said. this game is not perfect. and it's not even close, imo. same cheap tactics are employed to give a sense of a challenging defense. and did tiburon forget that this is a college game? they must have, because every defensive player plays like a hall of famer in his prime with the addition of a rear view mirror on his helmet.

                        patch this game to death, ea. i want 17 patches at minimum. because that's what i feel it's going to take in order to see some real football out of your title.
                        My score for Madden 13: 4.5/10

                        3 points for graphics, 1 point for the passable commentary, and a half point for the boxart. I can give no further points since the all over the place gameplay would ruin it anyway.

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                        • Bellsprout
                          Hard Times.
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 25652

                          #72
                          Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

                          Originally posted by ViLLiO
                          NO.


                          If they tune the linebackers to not react as quickly, it'll be short crossing routes and slants all day long... again. Go play NCAA 11 if you want that crap.

                          DO NOT TUNE THE GAMEPLAY..... PLEASE
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                          • maddcatt
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 310

                            #73
                            Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

                            C'mon guys ..Think about it, You can only emulate real football sooo much in a video game

                            NCAA football 2012 should be the best football game of all time and IMO it is
                            easily the best football game of all time ....what's wrong with that ?

                            people complain about stupid animations on here all the time, but sooo what !! if you see a stupid animation every once in a while ...it should be all about gameplay and EA has done
                            a very good job with that this year.

                            You can't just mash buttons to pass the ball this year without losing some accuracy ...you now have to thread the needle at times to complete a pass ...Which is the way it should be !!

                            Yah soooo what if slants and crossing routes are still the hardest passes to defend in this game because that can be said in real life to ...Soooo what's wrong with that ?

                            Do not touch a thing EA !! The online cheezers are having fits with this game and I love it !!

                            Good Job EA

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                            • Clinton56
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 147

                              #74
                              Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

                              I like it the way it is=).I would however like to see a return of the "truck" animation from ncaa09 when the rb would lower his helmet and earl campbell the Dbs in the open field

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                              • pdiehm
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 1402

                                #75
                                Re: PLEASE don't patch the gameplay, EA....

                                I removed the patch, and think the gameplay is awesome now.

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