Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

**bucknut7** · 08-09-2011, 04:35 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Originally posted by kingkilla56

Again it wont be exactly like real life.

I dont expect it to be, but it almost feels like a punishment to take a team like AZ to 6 stars if im not going to be looked at by the premier schools in the country

**kingkilla56** · 08-09-2011, 04:37 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Originally posted by bucknut7

I dont expect it to be, but it almost feels like a punishment to take a team like AZ to 6 stars if im not going to be looked at by the premier schools in the country

Play dynasty as a 6 star school, sim the years and see how it goes. The CC varies depending on the year. I can sim one year and get an offer, sim the exact same year and get none. Do some personal investigation to your question and act accordingly. Thats all I can tell you man.

**UMIK89** · 08-09-2011, 04:43 PM

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I agree with King. It seriously varies lol.

It's supposed to sim real life but it won't be EXACTLY like it. For one I'm glad its in the game to begin with lol. Haven't seen that since what 2001 or so?

**Bullet Sponge** · 08-09-2011, 04:53 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Originally posted by bucknut7

Sim, as in simulation, as in it should simulate real life

You're missing the point, Buck. Your dynasty is an alternate reality. In real life Arizona shouldn't be a 6-star school after a few years of success, but in the game it can be, so by making it a 6-star school the game is essentially saying that "Yes Arizona is every bit as prestigious a job as Florida, Ohio State, or Alabama". Even though in real life we know that wouldn't happen without a decade or more of prolonged success.

The bottom line is I think we ALL agree the game needs to redo how it handles this stuff. The fact that you can take a 1-star school to the same level of prestige as Alabama in a few years is where the problem lies. Getting to 6 stars should be a monumental task for any school in the game.

That said, I think Arizona, as a 5-star, in the Pac-12 is a pretty good "destination" job for a coach. The only thing that would trump that should be those elite 6-star schools. The problem is the game hands out 6-stars too easily so Arizona, in your alternate reality, is on the same footing.

**boxboy99** · 08-09-2011, 05:59 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Can't you just not renew when the contract expires? I would assume then you will get offers from pretty much everyone that is available.

**Kcordloh** · 08-09-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by boxboy99

Can't you just not renew when the contract expires? I would assume then you will get offers from pretty much everyone that is available.

This seems to be true. I did a sim where I took Texas, edited the rosters to all 99's, simmed perfect seasons, refused the job, and got a few top offers.

The problem is, most top programs don't fire their coaches. Sure it happens, but I don't see a lot of 6*'s dropping their coaches. Occasionally, but they seem to renew them like crazy. Plus after a few successful years their coordinators are now A+, and they hire from inside a lot in the game it seems.

Eventually you should get there, but it'll take a bit. A 5* HC seems to get offers to a 6* as coordinator, but I haven't seen a many 6* HC offers.. Mainly 5*.

**gopher_guy** · 08-09-2011, 07:10 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Originally posted by bucknut7

How is Arizona, even if they get to 6 stars the top of the mountain? That is an absurd statement. What coach would rather coach at Arizona then Bama/OSU/FL?

You sir, are the one who made the absurd statement.

6 stars = ELITE school. The best teams in the entire country. You turned Arizona into that school that everyone wants to coach at by getting it to 6 stars.

So if Bama, OSU, Florida, and Arizona are 6 star ELITE schools, what could POSSIBLY make Bama, OSU, and Florida better than Arizona???

**bucknut7** · 08-09-2011, 07:51 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Originally posted by gopher_guy

You sir, are the one who made the absurd statement.

6 stars = ELITE school. The best teams in the entire country. You turned Arizona into that school that everyone wants to coach at by getting it to 6 stars.

So if Bama, OSU, Florida, and Arizona are 6 star ELITE schools, what could POSSIBLY make Bama, OSU, and Florida better than Arizona???

Correct me if I am wrong, but Boise State is a 6 star program in the game (and even if not, its not hard to get them there). Are you going to tell me that Boise State is a more desirable and prestigious school then Alabama?

**wesman94** · 08-09-2011, 08:01 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Originally posted by bucknut7

Correct me if I am wrong, but Boise State is a 6 star program in the game (and even if not, its not hard to get them there). Are you going to tell me that Boise State is a more desirable and prestigious school then Alabama?

Not more, but the same as. All 6* schools are equal to each other.

So by that, then Boise State = Alabama in the game's mind, and it doesn't make sense to it why someone would leave a 6* program for another 6* one (unless it's your alma mater)

**gopher_guy** · 08-09-2011, 08:12 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Originally posted by bucknut7

Correct me if I am wrong, but Boise State is a 6 star program in the game (and even if not, its not hard to get them there). Are you going to tell me that Boise State is a more desirable and prestigious school then Alabama?

No, but the only reason is because they are in the MWC. I think it's absurd to say any 6 star school in a major, autobid conference is "clearly more desirable" than another.

**buickbeast** · 08-09-2011, 10:13 PM

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Back to the point of this thread.
I'm guessing that everyone in your OD will be a head coach. I've only done two seasons as HC but won the NC and brought Miami up to 6 stars. It was only a two contract and I got a ton of 2,3 star offers for HC and OC positions. I took the HC job at Tenn, which was a two star. Fine with me though because I have a soft spot for the Vols.
I started out as an OC at Hawaii though and after my initial three yr contract was over with 1 losing season and a bowl win, it seemed I had much better offers, such as multiple 3 and 4 star OC and HC jobs, than when I won the NC as a head coach. After two stops as OC at Cal and UGA I eventually took my first HC job at Miami.

**bucknut7** · 08-09-2011, 10:35 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Originally posted by buickbeast

Back to the point of this thread.
I'm guessing that everyone in your OD will be a head coach. I've only done two seasons as HC but won the NC and brought Miami up to 6 stars. It was only a two contract and I got a ton of 2,3 star offers for HC and OC positions. I took the HC job at Tenn, which was a two star. Fine with me though because I have a soft spot for the Vols.
I started out as an OC at Hawaii though and after my initial three yr contract was over with 1 losing season and a bowl win, it seemed I had much better offers, such as multiple 3 and 4 star OC and HC jobs, than when I won the NC as a head coach. After two stops as OC at Cal and UGA I eventually took my first HC job at Miami.

I just dont understand how after your experience with Miami, that your best offer was a 3*. Doesnt seem right

**buickbeast** · 08-09-2011, 11:03 PM

Re: Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

Originally posted by bucknut7

I just dont understand how after your experience with Miami, that your best offer was a 3*. Doesnt seem right

Ya it was weird, but it defiantly changes from year to year. Makes a huge difference when the bigger schools resign and when there is a spot available, I've noticed many times that either the OC or DC takes the HC spot.

**football5680** · 08-10-2011, 08:57 AM

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I have played great for a couple of seasons with a terrible team and didnt recieve any great offers.
I recieved some Coordinator opportunities with maybe 3 star team, and some head coach jobs with 1-2 star teams but thats it.
I thought at the very least I would get some coordinator jobs with great schools or head coach jobs at mid level schools

**Hoosiers1111** · 08-10-2011, 02:57 PM

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It definitely seems to favor hiring coordinators over HC's. In my case I started as an OC for Ball State, won 10 games, got hired as OC at Baylor, stayed two years where I won 6 games and then 10 games, then got hired as HC at Ole Miss. I have an A+ rating now so I'm hoping after a couple of years of improving Ole Miss (they were 6-6 before I took them over and the cupboard is pretty bare) I can get a job at Texas, Florida or Miami who appear to be on the verge of firing their respective coaches.

So basically my advice would be to start at someplace lower than a middle of the road power conference team or at least start as a coordinator. There's not much room to move up starting as a HC in a power conference.

Your Experience with Coaching Carousel?

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