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  • kjjnesb
    Pro
    • Jun 2007
    • 844

    #841
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

    Originally posted by chicagopax
    I honestly don't believe 2K can produce a viable football game on this generation.
    I think they could but they def won't bother like you said due to it being so late in this gen and they would just have to start over on the XBOX 720 and PS4. However I honestly wouldn't be shocked if 2K has been heavily investing R&D in a football engine since All Pro 2k8 with the hopes of rentering the market in future when the time presents its self.

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    • crumb
      Rookie
      • Aug 2009
      • 84

      #842
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

      Feels like waiting for release day all over again. Don't care for this feeling much.

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      • SECElit3
        Banned
        • Jul 2009
        • 5553

        #843
        I am starting to wonder if this delay is a strategic ploy by EA to get additional Madden sales. I mean how well has Madden actually done this year? Anyone know?

        I know I may be "fishing" but it just seems like something this company would do.

        I still feel like this will haunt them for years to come, because these issues combined with those from previous years, along with the PR disaster being the patch, I honestly think they have lost the trust of the consumer.

        I for one have no plans to buy future EA games.
        Last edited by SECElit3; 09-08-2011, 07:58 AM.

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        • K0ZZ
          The Hard Way
          • Dec 2004
          • 3871

          #844
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

          Originally posted by kjjnesb
          I think they could but they def won't bother like you said due to it being so late in this gen and they would just have to start over on the XBOX 720 and PS4. However I honestly wouldn't be shocked if 2K has been heavily investing R&D in a football engine since All Pro 2k8 with the hopes of rentering the market in future when the time presents its self.
          Why would they cut sports they are profiting in (NHL) while maintaining and upgrading a dead engine? It's possible, but the idea is really out there. If they rushed it out, using the exact same engine for APF, it won't compete with Madden. Honestly it's getting to the point where Mo-Cap should be non-existant. Computers are more than capable of physics integration and making the calculations quickly.
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          • kjjnesb
            Pro
            • Jun 2007
            • 844

            #845
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

            Originally posted by SECElite3
            I am starting to wonder if this delay is a strategic ploy by EA to get additional Madden sales. I mean how well has Madden actually done this year? Anyone know?

            I know I may be "fishing" but it just seems like something this company would do.

            I still feel like this will haunt them for years to come, because these issues combined with those from previous years, along with the PR disaster being the patch, I honestly think they have lost the trust of the consumer.

            I for one have no plans to buy future EA games.
            I wouldn't be shocked I mean madden did very well 1.4 mill and 12% launch increase as did NCAA do well. Sooo I'm thinking maybe EA drags there feet addressing bugs or even acknowledging them because they don't want alert casuals or people other wise oblivious that something is amiss with the products and that said issue may or may not be patchable...

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            • kjjnesb
              Pro
              • Jun 2007
              • 844

              #846
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

              Originally posted by chicagopax
              Why would they cut sports they are profiting in (NHL) while maintaining and upgrading a dead engine? It's possible, but the idea is really out there. If they rushed it out, using the exact same engine for APF, it won't compete with Madden. Honestly it's getting to the point where Mo-Cap should be non-existant. Computers are more than capable of physics integration and making the calculations quickly.
              Right but my thinking is that 2k may be putting R&D $ towards a new physics based engine not necessarily upgrading the old 2k5/All pro engine because that engine was very much showing its age in All pro football lol. And also the physics based engine could possible be applied to basketball as well.

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              • Pezell04x
                MVP
                • Apr 2010
                • 2907

                #847
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                Threads like this give OS a bad name.
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                • C the Lyte
                  Left side, strong side
                  • May 2009
                  • 2253

                  #848
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                  Originally posted by Pezell04x
                  Threads like this give OS a bad name.
                  How so?

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                  • dkrause1971
                    All Star
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 5176

                    #849
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                    Originally posted by SECElite3
                    I am starting to wonder if this delay is a strategic ploy by EA to get additional Madden sales. I mean how well has Madden actually done this year? Anyone know?

                    I know I may be "fishing" but it just seems like something this company would do.

                    I still feel like this will haunt them for years to come, because these issues combined with those from previous years, along with the PR disaster being the patch, I honestly think they have lost the trust of the consumer.

                    I for one have no plans to buy future EA games.
                    I think your fishing. NCAA taking forever to patch and being in my opinion- not worth playing in its current state is why i didn't buy Madden. Why would i want to play a game with many of the same core elements (they share code) if a patch might take 2+ months? In my situation, EA providing a competent patch in a timely manner would have increased my odds of getting Madden. Now its just harder to trust it would be fixed in a timely manner.

                    I would like to add, i sold NCAA in July since i was able to get what I paid for it. If EA is listening. I have been following this board for any reason to re-buy this game since i love college football. Instead the patch just drags on and on while major games like Dark Souls, Batman, Gears and others get closer and closer. You already cost yourself a Madden purchase from me, your getting close to another non NCAA purchase from me. So those people can say- well you guys will just buy it again next year, blah, blah. Well here is a small example of EA costing themselves money now.
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                    • Dr Death
                      Air Raid
                      • May 2009
                      • 1632

                      #850
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                      Originally posted by C the Lyte
                      How so?
                      I think he meant to say:

                      Threads like this give EA a bad name
                      Because, if he's insinuating that people complaining about a game that is unplayable and has massive problems w/ all the "new features" 2 months after release, then he's just down right insane.

                      People have every right to be mad and to air those frustrations...
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                      • SECElit3
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5553

                        #851
                        Originally posted by dkrause1971
                        I think your fishing. NCAA taking forever to patch and being in my opinion- not worth playing in its current state is why i didn't buy Madden. Why would i want to play a game with many of the same core elements (they share code) if a patch might take 2+ months? In my situation, EA providing a competent patch in a timely manner would have increased my odds of getting Madden. Now its just harder to trust it would be fixed in a timely manner.

                        I would like to add, i sold NCAA in July since i was able to get what I paid for it. If EA is listening. I have been following this board for any reason to re-buy this game since i love college football. Instead the patch just drags on and on while major games like Dark Souls, Batman, Gears and others get closer and closer. You already cost yourself a Madden purchase from me, your getting close to another non NCAA purchase from me. So those people can say- well you guys will just buy it again next year, blah, blah. Well here is a small example of EA costing themselves money now.
                        Well said my good man! I hope EA realizes these types of posts are coming from long time customers and highly respected members of this board.

                        All it would have taken to prevent the chaos are a few tweets, updating loyal customers on the status of the patch.... this is nothing more than pure arrogance and lack of appreciation for its customers.
                        Last edited by SECElit3; 09-08-2011, 08:52 AM.

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                        • Suntan Superman
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 7135

                          #852
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                          both local gamestops are giving five dollars cash, seven in-store credit for NCAA 12 right now. lol
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                          • kjjnesb
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 844

                            #853
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                            Originally posted by Suntan Superman
                            both local gamestops are giving five dollars cash, seven in-store credit for NCAA 12 right now. lol
                            Dang that is God awful might as well keep the game or throw it away lol

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                            • Herky
                              Working for the weekend
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 4715

                              #854
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                              I haven't bought Madden yet because of the issues with NCAA. I don't hate NCAA, but the patch is really needed and I might as well wait with Madden to see what it's issues are and how long it takes to get it fixed.

                              I think I've played maybe 15 total games with NCAA since I bought it the Friday after it came out. I never start my dynasty until the patched/tuner updates are out and having to wait this long frustrates me. I just hope this patch is worth the wait because it's been a long one.

                              I waited with MLB and NBA 2K11 until the patches were released to purchase and I might have to do this with Madden now and NCAA next season.

                              I used to be one of those guys who bought NCAA and Madden opening day each year but that changed last season. Perhaps I need to wait longer than a week now to buy.

                              Again, I like a lot of things about NCAA but IMO I can't enjoy a offline dynasty right now. RTG has been the only thing keeping NCAA going for me but I really want to get into a solid Iowa dynasty.

                              It's just maddening when college football has already kicked off and I can't get into my dynasty. I tried a "test dynasty" last week I just don't like some of the gameplay issues and the roster glitch.
                              Last edited by Herky; 09-08-2011, 09:03 AM.
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                              • Ball_Bag
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 274

                                #855
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                                $5?? You gotta be kidding me.

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